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IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:32 PM May 2022

Payton Gendron, Buffalo Mass Shooting Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know

https://heavy.com/news/payton-gendron/



Payton Gendron is the suspect accused of killing at least 10 people at a Tops Friendly Market grocery store in Buffalo, New York, on Saturday, May 14, 2022. Gendron was taken into custody at the scene, Buffalo Police said. Three others were wounded. Gendron is facing first-degree murder charges in New York state court and could also face federal charges, including hate crimes, officials said. The names of the victims have not been released yet.

A racist and anti-Semitic manifesto and a Twitch livestream were attributed online to the gunman, but authorities have not verified those accounts. A graphic video emerged that shows bodies lying in the parking lot as law enforcement officers take the suspect into custody. Gendron is from Conklin, New York. He said in the manifesto he is an 18-year-old college student and a self-described white supremacist. Gendron was shot by a security guard, but was not injured because he was wearing body armor, Buffalo Police said at a press conference.

Conklin is more than 200 miles southeast of Buffalo in the Southern Tier region of New York. Gendron included his name in the manifesto and The Associated Press confirmed his identity with law enforcement sources. Gendron appeared in court Saturday night for his arraignment, officials said. He is being held without bail. He is scheduled to return to court in five days, according to authorities. A mugshot has not been released, but photos from the local media show Gendron in court:







The manifesto, which talks about the extremist far-right white or great replacement theory and includes alt-right 4chan memes and jokes, is similar to ones written by shooters who attacked a mosque in Christchurch, New Zealand, the Tree of Life synagogue in Pennsylvania and an El Paso, Texas, Walmart in recent years, Yale professor Jason Stanley says.


The 5 fast facts if you don't want to click on Heavy
1. Gendron Is Accused of Wearing Military Gear & Carrying a Rifle Into the Store; a Retired Police Officer Is Among the Dead
2. A Graphic Video Emerged Showing Gendron Being Taken Into Custody, Bodies on the Ground & Another Shows Him Driving Up to the Store
3. The Racist Manifesto Rails About ‘Mass Immigration’ & Describes the Author as ‘the Sole Perpetrator of the Recent Attempted Mass Shooting’
4. Unconfirmed Reports Say the Suspect Streamed the Shooting Live on Twitch Using the Name ‘Jimboboiii’
5. The Suspect Is a New York Native & the State’s Governor Called Him a ‘White Supremacist’ Who Carried Out an ‘Act of Terrorism’


Conklin, NY is near Binghamton. So that's like a 4 hour drive to Buffalo. Lots more at the link

Thank You Governor Hochul for acknowledging white supremacist terrorism.
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Payton Gendron, Buffalo Mass Shooting Suspect: 5 Fast Facts You Need to Know (Original Post) IronLionZion May 2022 OP
If this is not a hate crime, then we don't have that. dchill May 2022 #1
His defense will be made on the basis of mental illness. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #2
Then make untreated racism an additional charge. dchill May 2022 #3
"untreated racism" MastersReign May 2022 #5
I wish! dchill May 2022 #6
well to me llashram May 2022 #26
He's Getting Life Without Parole SoCalDavidS May 2022 #4
I'll believe it when I see it. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #8
Can you point to a mass shooting killer who avoided jail? brooklynite May 2022 #21
I meant, without parole. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #22
Charges like hate crime and domestic terrorism are more for statistics and trend analysis IronLionZion May 2022 #10
Tell that to James Alex Fields Junior Locutusofborg May 2022 #18
Good stuff at the federal level. It varies by state. nt IronLionZion May 2022 #24
One of Donald Trump's "Good people on both sides." Chainfire May 2022 #7
Said perfectly oswaldactedalone May 2022 #11
This x 1,000 Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #12
+1, uponit7771 May 2022 #23
Looks like JD Vance n/m BradAllison May 2022 #9
Was he old enough to purchase this weapon? gldstwmn May 2022 #13
Yes, 18 is the minimum age under federal law to purchase a rifle. Dial H For Hero May 2022 #15
I just got off Twitter Tucker08087 May 2022 #14
Freepers are denying he's even white IronLionZion May 2022 #16
I've seen his picture. Tucker08087 May 2022 #27
Hopefully someone does the NY taxpayers a favor when he gets in prison. roamer65 May 2022 #17
Oh, damn. In their embedded video you see the person walking across the drive... herding cats May 2022 #19
Killed while buying food IronLionZion May 2022 #25
Tucker Carlson, 8 Chan, Christchurch... Gamified Stochastic Terrorist JCMach1 May 2022 #20
18 year old pos un-American racist loser with a gun. rockfordfile May 2022 #28

Baitball Blogger

(46,682 posts)
2. His defense will be made on the basis of mental illness.
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:47 PM
May 2022

I'm betting that's how they'll try to wiggle him out of some years in jail.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
26. well to me
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:15 PM
May 2022

early onset racist hate based on strictly superficial criteria eg: skin colour can be treated. Yet to me here in the oldskool understanding of most racist actions it seems, in the race-culture area, to be an untreated unreasoning unmitigated hate based on superficial criteria again eg: skin colour and white supremacy in white adults. It's an untreated disease in many, many people worldwide, especially here with America's history/herstory where innocent unarmed people are charged every day in America based only on their skin colour. Untreated white racists males and females who want a return to being the racially dominant human species in this country are getting a pass. On their openly professed desire to see a white supremacist theocracy while okaying black and liberal/progressive and poor voter area suppression? They should be charged. And now forth charged also charged with sometimes aggravated racial hate acted out as racist hate with injury and death by unnatural causes for many. Now I don't profess to know what/when our Ft. Sumpter moment will be in this untreated racial hate climate, yet I feel many will know it when we(fingers crossed at 74) see it, hear it, or experience it.

So in answer to your question. Yes, the perpetrators of actions that result in fatal consequences for many innocent/unarmed Americans can be charged also with premeditated murder with racial intent.

All of the human race, to me, seem to hate one thing or another eg: loud talking people and their phones in public, real loud noises etc, but we accept them. The case of systemic white hate as is found in America has been consistently and willfully overlooked(accepted) with the continuing acceptance that there is no real solution to racism in our racially and culturally diverse nation. Equal justice will have to be given both in the jury and Jurist selection. Justice is another area that is changed. At present, a packed Supreme Court. The rule of law must prevail. Equal treatment under the law for all.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
4. He's Getting Life Without Parole
Sat May 14, 2022, 08:52 PM
May 2022

Nothing More, Nothing Less. It doesn't matter how many charges there are, or what charges there are.

He's going to be in jail the rest of his life. The rest is just window dressing.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
10. Charges like hate crime and domestic terrorism are more for statistics and trend analysis
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:31 PM
May 2022

which is used to make policies and regulations and allocate resources

Sentencing will be based on murders, attempted murders, assaults with a deadly weapon, etc.

Locutusofborg

(524 posts)
18. Tell that to James Alex Fields Junior
Sun May 15, 2022, 02:19 AM
May 2022

He's the white supremacist who ran over and murdered Heather Heyer at the Unite The Right rally in Charlottesville in 2017.
He was convicted in state court of first-degree murder, eight counts of malicious wounding, and hit and run, and he was sentenced to life in prison plus an additional 419 years He also pled guilty to 29 of 30 federal hate crime charges to avoid the death penalty, which resulted in another life sentence. So because of hate crime charges, he is serving two life sentences plus 419 years.

Chainfire

(17,467 posts)
7. One of Donald Trump's "Good people on both sides."
Sat May 14, 2022, 09:07 PM
May 2022

If you are out and about in public, you walk among his type every day without knowing it. They hate people of their own color who don't agree with them as much as they do minorities, perhaps more...

Our governor is promising to get "Constitutional Carry" through the Florida legislature as soon as he can. We just don't have enough rednecks with guns on our streets. We are living in a hateful society; one where morals and values have been turned upside down. What was bad is now good. Truth and lies have equal value. Expect it to get worse before it gets better. The Generations behind us boomers are going to see a lot of blood in the streets, and they will have us to thank for it, for we have well and truly allowed our Democracy to morph into something ugly and evil.

Camelot is beginning to look like Hell.

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
14. I just got off Twitter
Sat May 14, 2022, 11:21 PM
May 2022

where they are saying he is not a white supremacist. I was out tonight and didn’t catch the news. So, thank you. When they call this “fake news,” once again they are lying. But I won’t react without having the facts. Now I have them. The “liberal media” 🙄 did not describe him as a white supremacist. He described himself that way.

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
16. Freepers are denying he's even white
Sat May 14, 2022, 11:37 PM
May 2022

they're saying it's black gang related and the store is a gun free zone and the usual nonsense they just make up that has nothing to do with reality.

Heavy uses sketchy methods but their information tends to be accurate and quick

Tucker08087

(621 posts)
27. I've seen his picture.
Sun May 15, 2022, 09:56 PM
May 2022

He’s white. My son is mostly Native American and he often says I’m the whitest person he’s ever seen. Apparently my blond eyebrows fade into my pale, pale skin. That kid has a gorgeous completion, and the longest, thickest jet black hair on earth. I’m about 5 feet tall and he’s 6’3”. We are an odd family dynamic for sure. Because of racism, I’ve learned to notice these differences, which is sad because I was raised to not care about our outer shells. But I now know a white kid when I see one, and he’s white.

herding cats

(19,558 posts)
19. Oh, damn. In their embedded video you see the person walking across the drive...
Sun May 15, 2022, 03:01 AM
May 2022

Then in their linked video they didn't embed you see the same person laying a few steps forward and prone on the ground!

One second they were just walking across a parking lot living their day, the next they're apparently not alive anymore. 😭

rockfordfile

(8,695 posts)
28. 18 year old pos un-American racist loser with a gun.
Sun May 15, 2022, 10:20 PM
May 2022

It seems twitch still has the same kind of pos streaming and pushing right-wing gun propaganda.

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