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Select Committee Will Not Turn Over Documents To DOJ (Original Post) gab13by13 May 2022 OP
I'm thinking turf war, and that's likely not helpful. They need to reconsider tonight. Hoyt May 2022 #1
They say because their investigation isn't complete. I would hope the DOJ is asking for it just JohnSJ May 2022 #5
Why? OAITW r.2.0 May 2022 #2
I have two theories. MontanaMama May 2022 #6
I don't understand the "bombshell fashion" stuff. This is a Congressional Hearing, Hoyt May 2022 #9
I just think the J6 committee plans on MontanaMama May 2022 #13
I get it and hope you are right. I'm concerned the 5% or so voters Hoyt May 2022 #16
the J6 committee has a story to tell agingdem May 2022 #17
I'm told DOJ doesn't leak. gab13by13 May 2022 #10
But he said it was "premature" for the committee to share its work at this point because the panel's elleng May 2022 #3
I can think of a lot of bad reasons why this is happening, gab13by13 May 2022 #4
Criticizing the Committee ain't advisable either. Hoyt May 2022 #7
I have never criticized them, gab13by13 May 2022 #8
Wasn't criticizing you. Stating a fact that criticizing the Committee will get one Hoyt May 2022 #11
I am thinking it is because they are getting close to June 9th and public disclosure? kentuck May 2022 #12
At this stage of the game, gab13by13 May 2022 #14
Absolutely! kentuck May 2022 #15
Agree, the Republicans on the Committee serve in good faith, the Republicans in dem4decades May 2022 #18
If Biden felt it best trump is charged, he'd let Garland know. Hoyt May 2022 #19
Me, too.. agingdem May 2022 #20
Amen. How many bombshells do we have to watch fizzle? Hoyt May 2022 #21
I also think a lot of the J6 committee's agingdem May 2022 #23
Headline a bit misleading - committee will not turn over transcripts...yet Fiendish Thingy May 2022 #22
not dismal at all.. agingdem May 2022 #24
There is no fear of leaking at all with this DOJ, that is somebodies fantasy and I doubt Bev54 May 2022 #26
Thompson clarified they absolutely will turn over transcripts and documents Bev54 May 2022 #25
so all is well.. agingdem May 2022 #27
Yes all is well. Bev54 May 2022 #28

JohnSJ

(92,131 posts)
5. They say because their investigation isn't complete. I would hope the DOJ is asking for it just
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:13 PM
May 2022

to confirm what they already have.

If that is not the case, then the DOJ has really dropped the ball


MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
6. I have two theories.
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:15 PM
May 2022

Does the J6 committee want to keep the transcripts private so that they can release them to the public during the hearings in bombshell fashion? Or does the G6 committee not trust the DOJ? I have no evidence to support either of these theories… It’s just what’s coming to my mind in this moment.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
9. I don't understand the "bombshell fashion" stuff. This is a Congressional Hearing,
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:20 PM
May 2022

ostensibly. I fear a backlash if it’s seen as a political hit.

And, I trust Biden and DOJ to finesse this thing.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
13. I just think the J6 committee plans on
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:26 PM
May 2022

having public hers where they release information that they believe will be shocking to the public. Whether that’s true or not, I think their hope is to sway the citizenry with intel that most folks haven’t heard before. It’s just a theory.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
16. I get it and hope you are right. I'm concerned the 5% or so voters
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:40 PM
May 2022

who will determine the next election will not be swayed by more evidence trump and associates are unfit for office.

If they don’t have hard evidence of criminal wrongdoing, that 5% — who don’t read DU, read a newspaper, or even watch CNN or MSNBC — are going to chalk it up as a political hit that wasted Congressional energy. I think most people want to move on, even if it’s just 55%.

agingdem

(7,844 posts)
17. the J6 committee has a story to tell
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:41 PM
May 2022

and they don't want the DOJ overshadowing their hearings..and I think they want to poke the DOJ for not acting on the Navarro, Scavino, Meadows contempt of Congress referrals... just saying..also, Thompson said not yet..this will get resolved...

elleng

(130,865 posts)
3. But he said it was "premature" for the committee to share its work at this point because the panel's
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:10 PM
May 2022

probe is ongoing.'

In an interview, Committee Chair Thomspon said they can discuss DOJ's needs. There are LOTS of transcripts.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
4. I can think of a lot of bad reasons why this is happening,
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:12 PM
May 2022

no use of me speculating, I get in trouble criticizing DOJ.

gab13by13

(21,304 posts)
8. I have never criticized them,
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:19 PM
May 2022

where would we be without them? They have a good reason I am sure.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
11. Wasn't criticizing you. Stating a fact that criticizing the Committee will get one
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

in trouble too.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
12. I am thinking it is because they are getting close to June 9th and public disclosure?
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

Why would that concern the DOJ?

Are they fearful that the Committee will expose information that they will need in their investigation?

Or are they afraid the Committee will expose information that will make it impossible not to investigate further?

The Committee has done a lot of work and they want the people to know what happened.

Perhaps they are concerned that if the DOJ gets control of the documents, they will not make it public?

Who knows? It is a puzzle to me.

We will likely know more in the next few days.

kentuck

(111,078 posts)
15. Absolutely!
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:34 PM
May 2022

I want the Committee to finish their work. We know the DOJ and FBI have been protective of Republicans for decades. I am not certain this is a decision of Merrick Garland's. It sure has fueled speculation though.

It is interesting.

dem4decades

(11,282 posts)
18. Agree, the Republicans on the Committee serve in good faith, the Republicans in
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:41 PM
May 2022

DOJ? Nope, there's still those who worked with Clarke and would undermine everything.

agingdem

(7,844 posts)
20. Me, too..
Tue May 17, 2022, 11:54 PM
May 2022

I think the J6 committee is being territorial...they don't want to share..the committee and the DOJ will work this out..I am, however, getting tired of the "OMG!!" teasers coming out of the committee..23 more days...can't wait

agingdem

(7,844 posts)
23. I also think a lot of the J6 committee's
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:14 AM
May 2022

"just wait, there's more" snippets are intended to scare the crap out of anyone holding back info..right now it's the five House creeps as well as Meadows, Navarro, Clark, Scavino, Eastman..

Fiendish Thingy

(15,582 posts)
22. Headline a bit misleading - committee will not turn over transcripts...yet
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:13 AM
May 2022

DOJ can have access to documents for “in camera” review (can look at in house chambers, can’t take copy with them).

Thompson said it was a “premature” request since the committee’s work is ongoing.

So, not as dismal as the headline makes it seem…

agingdem

(7,844 posts)
24. not dismal at all..
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:38 AM
May 2022

Bennie Thomason isn't saying you can't have the documents..he's saying please wait, we're not through..I also get the distinct feeling Thomason is hesitant to give up the documents for fear of a leak and there's has been such incredible built up, committee members annoying us with "OMG it's bad, worse than you can imagine!..stay tuned"..arrrrgh...

Bev54

(10,045 posts)
26. There is no fear of leaking at all with this DOJ, that is somebodies fantasy and I doubt
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:54 AM
May 2022

it is anybody involve on either side.

Bev54

(10,045 posts)
25. Thompson clarified they absolutely will turn over transcripts and documents
Wed May 18, 2022, 12:53 AM
May 2022

but right now they are still organizing and vetting as well as getting transcripts and documents ready for public hearings. There is no turf war, there is no bad blood, it will be done. There is just so much, it is more a matter of tell us what you need or want and we will get it for you. They are busy getting ready for hearings and need the transcripts and documents for now. They will not get in the way of any prosecutions that DOJ are intending so there needs to be communications between them and I have no doubt that is happening.

agingdem

(7,844 posts)
27. so all is well..
Wed May 18, 2022, 01:09 AM
May 2022

the headline read "House 1/6 panel rejects Justice Dept.'s transcript request"...a finite headline if ever there was one..and yes, I know Garland's DOJ doesn't leak..I had a feeling Garland was going to wait until the J6 committee gave us a non-fiction anthology so as not to diminish the committee's telling of the tale...

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