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ck4829

(34,905 posts)
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:21 PM May 2022

Great Replacement - But how do they know white people aren't really non-white people in disguise?

Last edited Thu May 19, 2022, 08:07 PM - Edit history (1)

(Or how we can '"Oh, you believe the Moon is REAL? LOL" to people who think the moon landing was faked' but for this conspiracy theory)

"Great Replacement" seems to be the latest conspiracy theory making the rounds, but I seem to remember conservatives said a lot of things about...crisis actors, body doubles, lizard people in disguise, using plastic surgery, etc.

Remember that?

*Raises hand*

I do!

Let's go over some of the history, shall we?

Rick Wiles: Hillary Clinton Has A Body Double, Fakes Her Campaign Rallies

Citing videos he viewed on the internet, “Trunews” host Rick Wiles on Friday suggested that Hillary Clinton is faking her campaign stops, claiming that in videos of the events, the images that appear on the attendees’ smartphones are not images of the rallies.

“She’s nowhere to be seen, the flags are not there, you can’t even distinguish what they are looking at, it’s nowhere to be seen on the stage,” he said. “Are they faking her personal appearances?”

Wiles also alleged that Clinton’s campaign sent out a body double to speak to the press outside of her daughter’s apartment after she had fallen ill at a September 11 memorial event: “I personally think it was a double. I don’t think Hillary passed out on the curb and then an hour or two later was walking around smiling and grinning. That just doesn’t happen in normal life.”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/rick-wiles-hillary-clinton-has-a-body-double-fakes-her-campaign-rallies/


Marjorie Taylor Greene in 2019 suggested Ruth Bader Ginsburg was replaced with a body double

Marjorie Taylor Greene said in February 2019 that then-Supreme Court Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg -- who died in September 2020 -- didn't really make a public appearance, implying she was replaced by a body double. Greene is now a member of Congress from Georgia and has been selected by her Republican colleagues to serve on the House Budget Committee and the House Committee on Education and Labor.

https://www.mediamatters.org/supreme-court/marjorie-taylor-greene-2019-suggested-ruth-bader-ginsburg-was-replaced-body-double


Right Wing Bonus Tracks – 9/16/16

Bradlee Dean can’t believe that people are so stupid that they can’t see that Hillary Clinton is obviously using a body double.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-bonus-tracks-91616/


Alex Jones Has Been Named In Two More Defamation Suits

Two lawsuits were filed against conspiracy theorist Alex Jones and his Infowars network last night on behalf of the parents of children murdered in the Sandy Hook elementary school shooting in 2012, who Jones claimed were “crisis actors”—a claim he maintains to this day.

The suits filed against Jones last night seek more than $1 million in damages from Jones for proliferating the objectively false claims that the parents of children murdered at Sandy Hook were actors and that no children actually died on the scene of the mass shooting. Sebastian Murdock at HuffPost reported:

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/alex-jones-has-been-named-in-two-more-defamation-suits/


Trump’s Team: The Bigoted, Unhinged Conspiracy Theorists Benefiting From Donald Trump’s Campaign

Ahead of the crucial Florida primary, Trump released a statement touting the endorsement he received from Pastor Carl Gallups, and then asked Gallups to deliver the invocation at a campaign rally in Pensacola.

Homosexuality has been a major focus of Gallups’ activism; he has repeatedly warned that same-sex marriage will completely destroy society by bringing about economic turmoil, severe persecution, the “enslavement” of Christians and divine punishment.

Gallups has also latched on to the Sandy Hook truther movement, which claims that the government faked the murder of schoolchildren and educators in Newtown, Connecticut, in order to justify new restrictions on firearms.

He called the massacre a “hoax” and said that grieving parents were actually crisis actors.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/trumps-team-the-bigoted-unhinged-conspiracy-theorists-benefiting-from-donald-trumps-campaign/


Is the QAnon Fantasy Unravelling?

Q’s disappearance (which lasted for nine days until the anonymous figure resurfaced again on Nov. 12) coupled with Trump’s defeat in the presidential elections, led to a range of responses from his followers. Some stood their ground and doubled down on the conspiracies, while others began to question whether they themselves had been fooled. Followers (known as Anons) flooded forums, Telegram chats, and Q-friendly spaces to discuss the events, share their despair, and seek comfort from others.

“We Have (sic) been told time & again Trump wins in the end!! Don’t give up so easily, if you believe don’t give up,” one poster told a QAnon group of several hundred members on Telegram. Another responded that “giving up is NOT an option for me!!”

This is not the first time that QAnon believers have faced disappointment. One of the initial claims of the conspiracy theory was that Hillary Clinton would be arrested and imprisoned in 2017. When that did not happen, QAnon followers recalibrated and decided that Clinton had been placed under house arrest and was wearing an ankle bracelet. Even her appearances in public only emboldened them to raise the stakes and claim that the deep state had replaced her with a clone.

Then in 2018, Q claimed that Republicans would dominate the midterm elections and reclaim the U.S. House of Representatives. This, of course, did not come to pass, and while this likely impacted some of Q’s followers, the movement only continued to grow over the next couple of years.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/is-the-qanon-fantasy-unravelling/


Right Wing Bonus Tracks: The Blood Drinkers

Stella Immanuel, one of MAGA world’s leading anti-COVID-19 vaccine “experts,” claims that many world leaders are clones inhabited by demons whose “job is to make laws that will cause people to die. And you know why? Because they are blood drinkers.”

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-bonus-tracks-the-blood-drinkers/


Right Wing Bonus Tracks: Rational People Like Us

Bishop Larry Gaiters claims that President Joe Biden, Tom Hanks, and Bill and Hillary Clinton are all dead and have been replaced by clones.

https://www.rightwingwatch.org/post/right-wing-bonus-tracks-rational-people-like-us/


So that immigrant family moving in down the street? Part of that great replacement, right?

... but what about the white family next door, are you sure they're actually white? Are you sure? Conservatives, take a look at your own words before saying you are sure they are.

But don't worry about it. And I'm white. That's what I put down on government forms that demand that information, and I look white. So I MUST be white. Definitely no secret George Soros plastic surgery lab involved in my whiteness, no sir. I'm white. Yes! Yes. Yes... yes.

... yes.
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Great Replacement - But how do they know white people aren't really non-white people in disguise? (Original Post) ck4829 May 2022 OP
Like white folks pretending to be minorities to get gov't contracts? keithbvadu2 May 2022 #1
Funny... ggma May 2022 #2
Why did the sons of Irish people need to pass for white???? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #4
Sorry ggma May 2022 #5
Thank you for the clarification. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #6
Hooray indeed! ggma May 2022 #8
Oh, yes, write it down. PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #10
I didn't read all your supporting documentation, but I know I'm a mutt. So is everyone else. erronis May 2022 #3
Black friend took dna test and found cbabe May 2022 #7
Ha! ggma May 2022 #9
Excellent. He counts as Norwegian, right? PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #11

keithbvadu2

(36,305 posts)
1. Like white folks pretending to be minorities to get gov't contracts?
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:06 PM
May 2022

Like white folks pretending to be minorities to get gov't contracts?

ggma

(708 posts)
2. Funny...
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:07 PM
May 2022

My great grandmother was an indentured slave from Ireland. Met my great grandfather and got with him after her servitude was over. Three of their sons left Florida and passed for white. We tracked them down. Montana branch wasn't interested; said don't contact them again. California branch was thrilled and wanted more info. Neither family looks African American.

Third son dropped off the face of the earth,but successfully passed. Out of 16 children, three were able to live white.

Remember the white guy who took the DNA test and was like 17% black? Wanted to found an all white town. He was kicked out of their club.

Point is, I guess, that white ain't as white as most people think 😉

ggma


PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,684 posts)
4. Why did the sons of Irish people need to pass for white????
Thu May 19, 2022, 09:20 PM
May 2022

Unless great grandfather was a person of color.

All four of my grandparents came from Ireland, and trust me, I am very, very white.

When I was a little girl, the elderly aunts would look at me and say, "Ahhh, she has the map of Ireland on here face." Say it with a brogue, and you get the idea. It wasn't until my first trip to Ireland that I understood, as every single person there looked exactly like my brothers and my sisters and my cousins.

ggma

(708 posts)
5. Sorry
Thu May 19, 2022, 10:43 PM
May 2022

I forget that you guys don't know me! It was confusing.

Yes, great grandfather was Black.

Sorry, again.

ggma

ggma

(708 posts)
8. Hooray indeed!
Thu May 19, 2022, 11:43 PM
May 2022

I read your post about the "map" and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Warm fuzzies! Long story in our family as to how the Nebraska branch of the family got here. Kids keep telling me I should write it down because some of the youngsters have no idea how we got here. Probably be a future project.

ggma

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,684 posts)
10. Oh, yes, write it down.
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:01 AM
May 2022

A long time after you're gone relatives will want to know. Not now, not in the near future, but a long time out.

I constantly regret that I didn't think to ask my mother or my grandparents various things.

And I think in your case there's a bi or multi racial thing going on, which is even more interesting.

erronis

(14,853 posts)
3. I didn't read all your supporting documentation, but I know I'm a mutt. So is everyone else.
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:11 PM
May 2022

The mixtures of tribes and races has been going on for at least 100,000 years - probably since the beginning of sex.

Personally I'd be happier knowing that I'm not just a product of my patrilineal line (father-grandfather-etc.) that never deviated from some probably northern european line. I would much rather think I have the blood of every race coursing through my veins and arteries. Unfortunately I know I don't have enough of the genes that can make and enjoy good music....

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,684 posts)
11. Excellent. He counts as Norwegian, right?
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:04 AM
May 2022

I'm some trivial percent Sardinian. Apparently several hundred years ago some Sardinians sneeked into my gene pool. And yes, I love it.

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