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Tue May 24, 2022, 07:24 PM

President Biden should make Executive Orders

Then go ahead and let the fucking Repugs sue

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Reply President Biden should make Executive Orders (Original post)
Just_Vote_Dem May 24 OP
uponit7771 May 24 #1
WarGamer May 24 #2
anarch May 24 #3
Name removed May 24 #6
mitch96 May 24 #5
WarGamer May 24 #8
mitch96 May 25 #12
WarGamer May 25 #19
mitch96 May 25 #25
keithbvadu2 May 24 #4
onenote May 25 #18
ecstatic May 24 #7
WarGamer May 24 #9
WarGamer May 24 #10
moonshinegnomie May 24 #11
librechik May 25 #14
countingbluecars May 25 #13
librechik May 25 #15
Celerity May 25 #16
WarGamer May 25 #20
Celerity May 25 #21
WarGamer May 25 #23
onenote May 25 #17
manicdem May 25 #22
spanone May 25 #24
moonshinegnomie May 25 #26

Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 07:51 PM

1. THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 Get into good trouble, do something different and wake people up !!

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 07:51 PM

2. What kind of exec order, Let's hear it.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #2)

Tue May 24, 2022, 07:55 PM

3. everybody hand over all their guns to the authorities, effective immediately?

that would probably go over pretty well.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #2)

Tue May 24, 2022, 08:46 PM

5. Banning bullets or making them $1000 for one... Prove you know how to shoot and take out

"mass casualty" Insurance... to start... YMMV
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Response to mitch96 (Reply #5)

Tue May 24, 2022, 11:40 PM

8. Wouldn't work... Courts would see it as a defacto gun ban.

See Minneapolis Star Tribune Co. v. Commissioner

An arbitrary tax on an item, particularly one protected by Constitutional Rights is illegal...

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #8)

Wed May 25, 2022, 07:25 AM

12. What do you suggest that might work? I'm just throwing stuff out there, I have no idea..nt

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Response to mitch96 (Reply #12)

Wed May 25, 2022, 07:39 PM

19. We're in a really tough spot.

The 2A, as interpreted by THIS SCOTUS... means the right for individuals to keep and bear arms and language from Heller about "common usage" probably even protects assault weapons.



I don't have an answer... all the people calling for "action" don't have the answer either.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #19)

Wed May 25, 2022, 09:31 PM

25. " all the people calling for "action" It seems only the RWNJ's have itchy trigger fingers.

The only dem that I know of who did anything with a gun was the guy that shot up the congressional baseball game and got Scalise..
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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 08:11 PM

4. Declare a National Emergency like Trump did.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #4)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:40 AM

18. Did you read that declaration?

First, itcites very specific statutes. Second, the action it ordered to be taken was the waiver of some requirements of the Medicare, Medicaid, and State Children’s Health Insurance programs.

How is that remotely a precedent for the types of actions being proposed in this thread?

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 11:34 PM

7. Can he raise the age of ownership and require full blown psychiatric exam and national license?

Or hell, just suspend all new sales because the recent massacres are being committed by newbie gun owners.

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Response to ecstatic (Reply #7)

Tue May 24, 2022, 11:41 PM

10. Courts just struck down a "21" requirement...

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Tue May 24, 2022, 11:42 PM

11. mandatory liability insurance to own a weapon or buy ammo

and repeal the liability exemption for gun maker and make it retroactive

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Response to moonshinegnomie (Reply #11)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:07 AM

14. THIS!!

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:03 AM

13. Ban assault rifles and

body armor except for law enforcement and military. Where in the second amendment does it say we have the right to either?

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Response to countingbluecars (Reply #13)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:09 AM

15. We had that, and it expired in 1994. Thank you Republicans!

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Response to countingbluecars (Reply #13)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:10 AM

16. Handguns are involved far far far more than assault weapons in gun murders and

I really would love to see a handgun ban

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Response to Celerity (Reply #16)

Wed May 25, 2022, 07:40 PM

20. Let's be honest...

300+ million handguns in the USA.

Ban all sales, mfg and import of handguns in the USA.

Still 300+ million handguns in the USA.

I don't have an answer.

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Response to WarGamer (Reply #20)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:27 PM

21. Well (and it never will happen) I meant an actual ban in terms of ownership. No grandfathering in.

I don't have an answer.


None of us do, WG, at least ones that could pass and be enforced and actually put things back on a course for semi normality.

A constitutional amendment will never occur in regards to repealing the 2nd Amendment.

The only path I can think of wherein we will see something profoundly concrete and impactful done is if the Union breaks up and the currently Blue states' new national constitution specifically deals with the nightmare.

Even if we somehow took over the SCOTUS, and they allowed all sorts of hardcore restrictions and bans to stand on a national level, the Red States will openly disobey, the same as the Blue States will openly disobey if a national ban on abortion is passed.

Either example is a prime path as to how the Union starts to break up. Let's say it was a national abortion ban (meaning the Rethusg are in tripartite federal control). The Blue states instantly say, NO, we do not submit. Then the Rethugs have 2 main choices, both of which leads to a starting of a breakup of the Union.

They either attempt to send in troops and enforce the bans at gunpoint (or attempt some psychotic, ruinous 'sanctions regime') and chaos endues, with the Blue states starting secession processes, OR the Rethugs in national power do nothing much, and then you will have the Red States start to ignore other major national laws that THEY dislike, and use the Blue states' actions as justification. Chaos ensues again, especially if we (Dems) get back in power and try to bring the Red Sates to heel on whatever shitbaggery they are doing in terms of ignoring federal laws.

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Response to Celerity (Reply #21)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:35 PM

23. +1000, great points

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:34 AM

17. What would be gained by an executive order that will be stayed immediately?

It would never take effect. And the administration wouldn't have any legal arguments to defend it.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:33 PM

22. Would backfire

I know you intend well, but this would be very bad. Basically it would be a dictatorship like what Putin would do. And it would be reversed the next day and wouldn't do anything. Bidens approval ratings would crater.

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 08:39 PM

24. He just signed one today....video

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Response to Just_Vote_Dem (Original post)

Wed May 25, 2022, 10:05 PM

26. he should announce that anyone arrested with a weapon will face terrorism charges

life in prison with no parole

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