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slater71

(1,153 posts)
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:26 PM May 2022

So they say he bought over 1600 rounds. of ammo.

He had 22 clips holding 30 rounds each. He had 7 of those clips on him containing 210 rounds. He fired a little over 100 times in those two classrooms. The relatives had to provide DNA so they could identify the kids killed. That is what we have to tell everyone that we know that has to have that assault weapon before we ask them the question as to why they need it.

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So they say he bought over 1600 rounds. of ammo. (Original Post) slater71 May 2022 OP
Someone here suggested a tax on ammo. Mosby May 2022 #1
Licensing, registration, insurance, taxes Novara May 2022 #3
Mandatory training as well exboyfil May 2022 #9
absolutely Novara May 2022 #11
Punitive or prohibitive taxes, licensing, fees, or insurance requirements DetroitLegalBeagle May 2022 #21
Who said it had to be exhorbitant or prohibitive? Novara May 2022 #24
Canada requires a handgun safety and training class for purchasing handguns. roamer65 May 2022 #34
And those a__holes will say that the Founding Fathers imagined exboyfil May 2022 #2
He was unemployed, and had $1000s + for guns & ammo? empedocles May 2022 #4
You can buy guns on credit. Mosby May 2022 #6
How much credit can an unemployed 18 year old high school get exboyfil May 2022 #12
I thought he had a job in fast food. Mosby May 2022 #19
I prefer credit card or debit card purchase only. roamer65 May 2022 #35
A college fund? exboyfil May 2022 #8
The gun seller had easy payment plans jmbar2 May 2022 #10
Me thinks the gun seller exboyfil May 2022 #13
I bet the kid stole grandma's credit cards to do this. jmbar2 May 2022 #14
And she may have learned about that leftieNanner May 2022 #15
Thought The Same ProfessorGAC May 2022 #27
I thought I heard the DPS guy say he used a debit card. Maybe someone can correct me, but I think dameatball May 2022 #16
I remember reading yesterday that he was employed at a Wendy's for months to save up that money. Claustrum May 2022 #17
$3,500 total from what I read underpants May 2022 #18
He worked at Wendy's. tblue37 May 2022 #20
I saw that he spent over 3100 dollars on the guns alone. slater71 May 2022 #25
Each round of 5.56mm ammo is around $1.00 each. Calista241 May 2022 #5
they should give out valium with each bullet Blues Heron May 2022 #7
This is why there should be an ammunition purchase license. roamer65 May 2022 #22
It Is Here In Illinois ProfessorGAC May 2022 #28
Smart move. roamer65 May 2022 #29
BTW... ProfessorGAC May 2022 #30
Freedom Of Information Act. roamer65 May 2022 #33
Yeah, Probably ProfessorGAC May 2022 #36
My addition to the requirements would be LuvLoogie May 2022 #23
Go after the gun shows first. roamer65 May 2022 #32
Watch how the gun-crazies will say: "They're not 'clips', they're 'magazines' " in order Aristus May 2022 #26
30 round magazines should be banned. roamer65 May 2022 #31
I'm Limited To 5 ProfessorGAC May 2022 #37
I actually would surrender my semiautomatic handguns if needed. roamer65 May 2022 #38
OK, Wyatt! ProfessorGAC May 2022 #39
I know. roamer65 May 2022 #40

Mosby

(16,248 posts)
1. Someone here suggested a tax on ammo.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:28 PM
May 2022

Seems like a great idea, but the Republicans in congress plus our couple traitors will prevent it.

Novara

(5,812 posts)
3. Licensing, registration, insurance, taxes
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:32 PM
May 2022

All of it. Make 'em be licensed like drivers. Make them be registered in a federal database with the number of guns they have and maintain registration on each one, make 'em pay for liability insurance for even one gun owned, and tax the fuck out of the ammo.

Jeebus, it's a hell of a lot harder to own and drive a car. It's harder to get healthcare. It's harder to buy Sudafed, for fuck's sake.

Sure, you have the right to own a gun, but we're gonna make it as hard as it is to own and drive a car. At least.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
9. Mandatory training as well
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:38 PM
May 2022

Also need to convince instructor that you are stable enough to purchase a semiautomatic weapon.

We need gatekeepers.

Also up the penalties for illegally obtained weapons.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,914 posts)
21. Punitive or prohibitive taxes, licensing, fees, or insurance requirements
Fri May 27, 2022, 02:33 PM
May 2022

Would not likely survive a court challenge. The Heller ruling recognizing it as a individual right limits what can be done. Anything that effectively prevents the free exercising of a right, violates that right. Now with this upcoming New York ruling, depending on how they rule, it could make restrictions even more difficult and undo already existing ones.

Novara

(5,812 posts)
24. Who said it had to be exhorbitant or prohibitive?
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:27 PM
May 2022

These fees should be collected and go into victims funds.

Even Scalia said that the right is not unlimited. Well then, perhaps we should see what sort of limits we can impose.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
34. Canada requires a handgun safety and training class for purchasing handguns.
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:54 PM
May 2022

You can actually own handguns in Canada. It’s just you have to prove your somewhat safe and stable to do it.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
2. And those a__holes will say that the Founding Fathers imagined
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:31 PM
May 2022

an 18 year old could buy a rifle capable of firing 15 rounds a minute for two minutes and then change a magazine in seconds to fire another 30 rounds.

Not only that all the pictures he posted of the rifles just fits in with the GOP celebration of the gun. Until he started talking about killing people, he was one of them. And in some cases even beyond that (Trump - 2nd Amendment solution).

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
12. How much credit can an unemployed 18 year old high school get
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:40 PM
May 2022

on their own? Did he have a credit card cosigned by a parent or other guardian?

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
35. I prefer credit card or debit card purchase only.
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:55 PM
May 2022

It’s then completely traceable. The purchase then lands into a database.

Cash sales of any firearm should be banned, except for true hunting rifles and shotguns.

jmbar2

(4,858 posts)
10. The gun seller had easy payment plans
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:39 PM
May 2022

He could pay under $100/month for the guns. Assuming that the ammo could be charged on a card.

exboyfil

(17,862 posts)
13. Me thinks the gun seller
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

won't be collecting on that debt. Probably sue to have the guns returned to him I guess.

I notice he took his gun shop page off of his website. Wonder why? He is so proud of them.

jmbar2

(4,858 posts)
14. I bet the kid stole grandma's credit cards to do this.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:42 PM
May 2022

Figured she wouldn't be needing them. Except that she has survived, at least for now.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
27. Thought The Same
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:40 PM
May 2022

But, then I read the argument was over a cellphone bill.
Things are quite muddy right now.

dameatball

(7,391 posts)
16. I thought I heard the DPS guy say he used a debit card. Maybe someone can correct me, but I think
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:46 PM
May 2022

that is what I heard. So he had money in an account someplace apparently.

Claustrum

(4,845 posts)
17. I remember reading yesterday that he was employed at a Wendy's for months to save up that money.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:49 PM
May 2022

He quitted though. If it's true (so many unverified information out there), then he has planned this for months and quitted as soon as he got enough money.

Calista241

(5,585 posts)
5. Each round of 5.56mm ammo is around $1.00 each.
Fri May 27, 2022, 01:33 PM
May 2022

You can get a 1000 round box for a bit under $1k. Ammo prices for 5.56mm should start to come down some as the military transitions to the new 6.8mm round.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
28. It Is Here In Illinois
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:42 PM
May 2022

No FOIA card, no ammo.
We used smokeless powder for our pyro pots in the band.
Needed to show the FOIA card just to buy the can of powder.

ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
30. BTW...
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:46 PM
May 2022

...I used FOIA. It's a FOI card. Firearm owners identification.
I don't know why I added the "A".

LuvLoogie

(6,903 posts)
23. My addition to the requirements would be
Fri May 27, 2022, 03:24 PM
May 2022

All firearms sales should be direct from the manufacturer. No dealers, period.
If you want to sell your weapon, you sell it back to the manufacturer.
You want to buy a used weapon, you buy from the manufacturer.

Aristus

(66,257 posts)
26. Watch how the gun-crazies will say: "They're not 'clips', they're 'magazines' " in order
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:37 PM
May 2022

to distract from the fact that each one contained 30 rounds being aimed and fired at children.

It's what they do...

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
31. 30 round magazines should be banned.
Fri May 27, 2022, 04:46 PM
May 2022

Best part of the old assault weapon ban was the 10 round limit on magazines.

I have a S&W revolver, so I am limited to 6.

Just ignore their tactic and keep the message, IMO. I am familiar with that obfuscation being a gun owner.



ProfessorGAC

(64,789 posts)
37. I'm Limited To 5
Fri May 27, 2022, 05:09 PM
May 2022

I have a 75th anniversary reissue of the Springfield 1903. (I used to belong to a rifle range. It closed about 15 years ago, when developers bought the land to build houses. The next closest range is 30 miles from here, and the middle of nowhere, so I quit going.)
That tube only held 5 rounds. I don't recall if I could chamber a 6th or not.
In timed target contests, one fired only 5 rounds no matter the rifle. So, I never did it. Almost everyone used bolt of lever action in those contests. Sort of old school. 500', no scopes. I never bought a scope. Most of them were 2x what I paid for the rifle!

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
38. I actually would surrender my semiautomatic handguns if needed.
Fri May 27, 2022, 05:15 PM
May 2022

But I will keep my shotguns, rifles and the S&W revolver…period.

That old wheel gun is fun to shoot. 1875 kinda feel to it.

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