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ck4829

(34,905 posts)
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:01 AM May 2022

It's all connected. I feel like if it's normal to say "Gun control won't work, don't bother", then..

It's probably also going to be normal to say...

"Disease eradication won't work, don't bother"

"Corruption elimination won't work, don't bother"

"Closing the gap between the richest and the poorest won't work, don't bother"

We're not going to be black-bagged and death squad-ed into oppression and tyranny, we're going to shrug our shoulders into it.

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It's all connected. I feel like if it's normal to say "Gun control won't work, don't bother", then.. (Original Post) ck4829 May 2022 OP
Well... OldBaldy1701E May 2022 #1
We wouldn't be able to eradicate smallpox in today's political climate ck4829 May 2022 #2
Ahh. I grok you now. (n/t) OldBaldy1701E May 2022 #3
These are normal right wing points actually. twodogsbarking May 2022 #4
And cynical libertarian types on the far left... OneGrassRoot May 2022 #5
It comes down to anything but Democrat. They play it well. twodogsbarking May 2022 #6
Bingo. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2022 #9
Yep. But what you never hear from right-wingers is: Mister Ed May 2022 #8
Exactly!!! Great point. n/t OneGrassRoot May 2022 #10
"Gun control won't stop it all, so why do it?" LiberatedUSA May 2022 #7
JD Vance...BAN Porn and Abortion to SAVE American Families. keithbvadu2 May 2022 #11

OldBaldy1701E

(4,915 posts)
1. Well...
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:44 AM
May 2022

It is going to take a lot of advances in science to eradicate all diseases. This is a practical barrier that will one day be breached. It is going to take something more than we have to change the very nature of a human being, since being corruptible is part of the human psyche. This is a practical barrier that exists and would take a lot of different things happening before we can address it.

But, the guns and the gap between the rich and the poor? That is just our choice. There is nothing stopping us from achieving either of those goals except our collective position that there is some mystical force keeping us from getting either done. There is no magical barrier to getting there.

It is because we don't want to. ('We' being used in a collective sense.)

ck4829

(34,905 posts)
2. We wouldn't be able to eradicate smallpox in today's political climate
Mon May 30, 2022, 08:49 AM
May 2022

That's what I was thinking about when I included that as well as the general theme of hope.

OneGrassRoot

(22,916 posts)
5. And cynical libertarian types on the far left...
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:09 AM
May 2022

the ones who created the horseshoe effect to join forces with the right-wingers. The "nothing can be done about it so everyone do what they want and let's blow it all up" people. I expect that BS from right-wingers; it's maddening when people who purportedly share a similar worldview take that same stance, resulting in more destruction because that's precisely what they want. They usually don't have kids or grandkids though.

Mister Ed

(5,877 posts)
8. Yep. But what you never hear from right-wingers is:
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:25 AM
May 2022

"Outlawing abortion won't work, so why bother."

"Stuffing gay people back into the closet won't work, so why bother."

"Trying to stem the tide of demographic change and keep whites a majority won't work, so why bother."

 

LiberatedUSA

(1,666 posts)
7. "Gun control won't stop it all, so why do it?"
Mon May 30, 2022, 09:25 AM
May 2022

You’re right, that stupid reasoning could be applied to anything.

“Not all accidents will be prevented by road safety laws, so why do them”?

“Not all illegal immigration will be stopped by a wall, so why build one”?

keithbvadu2

(36,305 posts)
11. JD Vance...BAN Porn and Abortion to SAVE American Families.
Mon May 30, 2022, 11:55 AM
May 2022
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216743746

JD Vance...BAN Porn and Abortion to SAVE American Families.
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But bans supposedly don't work, Vance. See::: guns
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