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Mon May 30, 2022, 08:01 AM

It's all connected. I feel like if it's normal to say "Gun control won't work, don't bother", then..

It's probably also going to be normal to say...

"Disease eradication won't work, don't bother"

"Corruption elimination won't work, don't bother"

"Closing the gap between the richest and the poorest won't work, don't bother"

We're not going to be black-bagged and death squad-ed into oppression and tyranny, we're going to shrug our shoulders into it.

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Reply It's all connected. I feel like if it's normal to say "Gun control won't work, don't bother", then.. (Original post)
ck4829 May 30 OP
OldBaldy1701E May 30 #1
ck4829 May 30 #2
OldBaldy1701E May 30 #3
twodogsbarking May 30 #4
OneGrassRoot May 30 #5
twodogsbarking May 30 #6
OneGrassRoot May 30 #9
Mister Ed May 30 #8
OneGrassRoot May 30 #10
LiberatedUSA May 30 #7
keithbvadu2 May 30 #11

Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 08:44 AM

1. Well...

It is going to take a lot of advances in science to eradicate all diseases. This is a practical barrier that will one day be breached. It is going to take something more than we have to change the very nature of a human being, since being corruptible is part of the human psyche. This is a practical barrier that exists and would take a lot of different things happening before we can address it.

But, the guns and the gap between the rich and the poor? That is just our choice. There is nothing stopping us from achieving either of those goals except our collective position that there is some mystical force keeping us from getting either done. There is no magical barrier to getting there.

It is because we don't want to. ('We' being used in a collective sense.)

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #1)

Mon May 30, 2022, 08:49 AM

2. We wouldn't be able to eradicate smallpox in today's political climate

That's what I was thinking about when I included that as well as the general theme of hope.

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Response to ck4829 (Reply #2)

Mon May 30, 2022, 08:52 AM

3. Ahh. I grok you now. (n/t)

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 08:58 AM

4. These are normal right wing points actually.

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Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #4)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:09 AM

5. And cynical libertarian types on the far left...

the ones who created the horseshoe effect to join forces with the right-wingers. The "nothing can be done about it so everyone do what they want and let's blow it all up" people. I expect that BS from right-wingers; it's maddening when people who purportedly share a similar worldview take that same stance, resulting in more destruction because that's precisely what they want. They usually don't have kids or grandkids though.

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Response to OneGrassRoot (Reply #5)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:13 AM

6. It comes down to anything but Democrat. They play it well.

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Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #6)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:28 AM

9. Bingo. n/t

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Response to twodogsbarking (Reply #4)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:25 AM

8. Yep. But what you never hear from right-wingers is:

"Outlawing abortion won't work, so why bother."

"Stuffing gay people back into the closet won't work, so why bother."

"Trying to stem the tide of demographic change and keep whites a majority won't work, so why bother."

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Response to Mister Ed (Reply #8)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:28 AM

10. Exactly!!! Great point. n/t

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 09:25 AM

7. "Gun control won't stop it all, so why do it?"

 

You’re right, that stupid reasoning could be applied to anything.

“Not all accidents will be prevented by road safety laws, so why do them”?

“Not all illegal immigration will be stopped by a wall, so why build one”?

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Response to ck4829 (Original post)

Mon May 30, 2022, 11:55 AM

11. JD Vance...BAN Porn and Abortion to SAVE American Families.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100216743746

JD Vance...BAN Porn and Abortion to SAVE American Families.
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But bans supposedly don't work, Vance. See::: guns

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