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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsThis ruling puts trump at the center of the conspiracy to attempt a coup
There is plenty of evidence already public but this federal judge's decision makes it crystal clear who was running the show.
CBS News: Court orders conservative lawyer John Eastman to turn over 159 documents to Jan. 6 committee.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/john-eastman-jan-6-committee-159-documents/?ftag=CNM-00-10aag7e
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"Dr. Eastman's actions in these few weeks indicate that his and President Trump's pressure campaign to stop the electoral count did not end with Vice President Pence it targeted every tier of federal and state elected officials," Carter said. "Convincing state legislatures to certify competing electors was essential to stop the count and ensure President Trump's reelection."
Carter also indicates in his order that Eastman's documents confirm the plan for Vice President Mike Pence to reject or delay the counting of state electoral votes during the Jan. 6 joint session of Congress was established "well before" lawmakers convened to reaffirm Mr. Biden's victory over Trump. Those proceedings were temporarily disrupted when the mob of Trump's supporters breached the U.S. Capitol to stymie the counting of state electoral votes.
In one email from Dec. 22, an attorney with Trump's legal team referenced the "January 6 strategy" as a plan known to eight others. Two days later, Eastman "explained that the worst case for the plan was receiving a court decision that constrained Vice President Pence's authority to reject electors," according to Carter's order.
"Dr. Eastman and President Trump's plan to stop the count was not only established by early December, it was the ultimate goal that the legal team was working to protect from that point forward," he wrote.
In examining the trove of documents contested by Eastman, Carter found one email, dated Dec. 22, may have been in furtherance of a crime. In that message, an attorney "goes beyond strategizing litigation outcomes" and considers whether to bring a case to shed light on the interpretation of the Electoral Count Act and the Jan. 6 proceedings of Congress.
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towerbum
(263 posts)Warpy
(111,141 posts)Don't hold your breath waiting for TFG going to prison soon.
In the first place, it's a precedent no administration wants to set, especially now when politics are already toxic.
Second, TFG is going to use all the delaying tactics Roy Cohn taught him to run out the clock so he'll croak before he's measured for an extra extra large orange jumpsuit.
Third, think of how he'd be regarded in prison, he'd be a god among the other cons, the man who pulled off the biggest scam of all. For that reason, I don't want to see him inside until he's in a wheel chair and drooling on himself.
What I'd very much like to see is a sealed indictment that will drop if he or his family ever run for public office.
Now Kushner? I want to see that Saudi windfall investigated and I'd love to see him in prison. Maybe he'd get his daddy's old cell.
erronis
(15,181 posts)"Third, think of how he'd be regarded in prison, he'd be a god among the other cons, the man who pulled off the biggest scam of all. For that reason, I don't want to see him inside until he's in a wheel chair and drooling on himself."
If he's placed in some medium-security federal prison I don't think many of his fellow inmates will worship him. Quite the opposite. Most of them are not in there for political crimes, a few white-collar ones, but the majority for just trying to stay alive/hustling. He's never had to "just stay alive" - until perhaps at that point.
Botany
(70,447 posts)"Dr. Eastman and President Trump's plan to stop the count was not only established by early December, it was the ultimate goal that the legal team was working to protect from that point forward," he (U.S. District Judge David O. Carter) wrote.
Septua
(2,252 posts)I was waiting on someone to say, criminal plots are not subject to attorney-client privilege. I learned that watching Law & Order.
Now if someone will just say criminal plots aren't covered by executive privilege...