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Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:58 PM

I'm really curious as of whether or not the flurry of DOJ subpoenas

on the fake electors, the search warrant the fbi executed at Clark's house were planned before the hearings or not ?

I would think that the DOJ would need to dot the i's and cross the t's before raiding Clark's house for example so it would seem unlikely they decided when watching hearings a few days before.

But who knows ? is it that the DOJ felt pressure or that it just so happen they were ready to proceed and this coincided with the hearings ?
I guess they also may have decided to wait until hearings so that it's out in the open and they don't collide with the commitee ?

I can't wait to learn in the future what actually happened when somebody writes their memoir on the events of the day ..


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Response to WarGamer (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:01 PM

4. that's what I am leaning towards.

it would be hard to get a judge to issue a search warrant for a former top doj official unless they had the goods

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 08:59 PM

2. Where they holding them as a courtesy to the committee?

Iím sure some will argue theyíre just acting because the committee made it impossible for them not to, but I wonder how much was coordinated.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:00 PM

3. I think the J6 hearing are pushing them to do it. Make sure they secure any evidence and testimony

they need.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:06 PM

5. Just bc the J6 committee said they weren't providing the DOJ with

their investigative files doesnít mean they didnít Ö maybe sometimes itís best to keep your moves out of the limelight Ö




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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:06 PM

6. If the warrant had been executed earlier, Clark would have had an easier time taking the Fifth

before the J6 Committee. Apparently, he still did take the Fifth before the Committee.

Criminal investigations are exceedingly complex, and the Fifth Amendment is a real issue for the FBI. Things have to be coordinated precisely. It sounds like the investigators (Congressional and FBI) are getting new information on a daily basis.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:10 PM

7. I firmly believe they are working in concert

 

J6 hearings are prepping the public for what is coming down. That makes sense to me and frankly how I believe it should be handled. It is a bipartisam committee and has the public clamoring for the DOJ to do something. Brilliant. DOJ cannot be seen as politically motivated when the information is out there for the public to understand. The J6 committee is putting this together in easily digestable pieces that are not difficult for the general public to understand.


I know that a lot of folks are frustrated with how long it is taking but I do believe for the good of the country this is how it has to happen.

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Response to Aroundabout23 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:12 PM

8. it does seem to shape out that way

even the polls are reflecting a big majority of Americans now believe Trump attempted a coup ( over 60 percent). This massively went up after the first few hearings.

It has the same effect the Watergate hearings did.

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Response to drray23 (Reply #8)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:14 PM

9. Yep.

 

I am not a patient person. Thankfully I am not the person running the show.

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Response to Aroundabout23 (Reply #7)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:34 PM

12. Not sure if they would officially coordinate BUT

maybe DOJ has had the goods for a while now, and they knew what a political nightmare it would be to tackle a conspiracy of this magnitude, so theyíre timing their actions alongside the committee hearings which is giving them a TON of political cover.

Without the J6 hearings, DOJ rounding up Trumpís buddies would put them way out on a limb; Republicans would go nuts accusing them of political prosecutions on behalf of Joe Biden. But with everything weíre learning from the hearings, itís making it practically impossible for GOP complaints to break through.

Especially with the hearing today which focused on DOJ and kept hammering the point home over and over again that they work (or should work) on behalf of the people, not the president. It was a good reminder that under normal circumstances, thatís how the DOJ works.

This is pure speculation on my part of course, I have no clue what is going on behind the scenes.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:28 PM

10. Jamie Raskin told MSNBC that DOJ and his committee weren't coordinated.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 09:34 PM

11. My guess is that they've been working on it for some time but...

Because of the congressional investigation they delayed acting until the culpable information was revealed to the public.

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Response to drray23 (Original post)

Thu Jun 23, 2022, 11:23 PM

14. EmptyWheel has released a deep dive on this

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