New Scholar Ranking of US Presidents just out today (6/23/22).

[Lasher]

Rankings from this new poll:

Biden is #19
Trump is #43
Obama is #11
GWB is #35
Clinton #14
GHWB #20
Reagan #18

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_presidents_of_the_United_States#Scholar_survey_summary

The above is from Wikipedia. Here is a link to the new Siena survey, just in case any of you want to drill down:

Siena College Research Institute 2022 Survey of U.S. Presidents Rank Over Time

https://scri.siena.edu/wp-content/uploads/2022/06/PDF-Ranking-FINAL-REAL.pdf

[UTUSN]

1. Note to scholars: RAYGUN at 18 is WAaaay too high.

[LoisB]

3. Totally agree.

[UTUSN]

4. Hilarious that Shrub is close to Drumpf territory & *still* beaten out by Poppy even with 4 yrs more

[LoisB]

8. That probably chaps his hide. He so wanted to outshine his daddy.

[Lasher]

11. GWB liked to say history would judge him.

That was simply an exercise in kicking the can down the road. Regardless, history is here now and he's not being judged well.

[LoisB]

12. I hope he falls even lower on the list.

[Lasher]

14. He will never escape his blunder in Iraq.

But I don't see him sinking much lower.

[Lasher]

6. Reagan was helped for years in polls like this

Notably by the Ronald Reagan Presidential Foundation & Institute. His glimmer has faded, however, since we finally realized his trickle-down theory was never anything more than a scam to make rich people richer.

[UTUSN]

9. Not to mention poisoning the political divide, ignoring AIDS, IranContra, OctoberSurprise &MUCH more

[Lasher]

2. Kick

[roamer65]

5. Lyndon Johnson is too high.

Vietnam.

John F Kennedy should be higher. He stopped nuclear war.

[UTUSN]

10. Uh, Great Society (MediCARE MediCAID), Civil Rights, Voting Rights,

[roamer65]

13. ..and the Vietnam War.

Plus Lyndon was a bully and treated staffers horribly.

Most of what you mention would have been done in a Kennedy 2nd term.

I really wish 22 November 1963 would not have happened.

[shrike3]

17. Lyndon got it done, though.

It was like the devil doing God's work. I read Caro's four-volume (so far) bio of him, and what kept going through my head, over and over, "this horrible man was in the right place at the right time." FDR recognized that and knew how to use him: the Hill Country of Texas did not have electricity when FDR took office. It wasn't that the utilities wouldn't make money. They just wouldn't make enough money to suit them the first two years. FDR send Lyndon to get it done, and he did.

[Midwestern Democrat]

7. LBJ at #8 and Nixon at #28 are both too high - Vietnam and Watergate can't just be dismissed as

"minor" blemishes on otherwise good records; IMO, Vietnam knocks Johnson out of the top 15 and Watergate should put Nixon in the bottom 10.

[roamer65]

15. +1000

[roamer65]

16. FDR definitely deserves #1.

He got us through the Great Depression and WW2.

[Bucky]

18. James Buchanan deserves a recount

His principal sin was being ineffective and ignorant about how to deal with a crisis. Not much different than Trump with the Covid 19 pandemic. But Trump also openly betrayed national intelligence secrets to the Russians and tried to actually end the Constitutional democracy. It didn't trigger a civil war (yet!) but the harms he caused were deliberate as well as poorly executed. Plus he spent his entire tenure mostly just enriching himself and his numbskulled offspring.

In my book he's ten times worse than Buchanan's mere ineptitude.