Have you seen the cover of the new Bloomberg Businessweek?

[DonRedwood]

The amazing thing is how quiet the campaigns have been. This is a step in the right direction.

[ananda]

1. Wow!

Just wow.

[BouzoukiKing]

15. Oh... stay tuned.

By and by, the Republicans will be claiming that Global Warming was discovered by them, they have always known it was a fact ("We have always been at war with Eastasia&quot , and that Al Gore just didn't understand how serious the problem was.

But if we can just cut taxes on the 1% we can finally address the Global Warming problem through the miracle of capitalism unleashed.

Finally, I say...

[laundry_queen]

20. By George, I think you've got it.

No, really, that's exactly what they are going to do. Insanity isn't it?

[proReality]

24. Exactly! And that explains why...

...their followers believe everything they are told--they've got Shaken Baby Syndrome from all the back and forth.

[lexw]

31. You're so right on this.

[DaveJ]

35. Reminds me of the movie 2012

Survival "Arks" were funded by the private sector, so only the rich were allowed to board.

I wish I had a still of the scene with the Senior Bush's boarding with their dog.

They'd rather this happen, than prevent the disaster in the first place.

[Indpndnt]

44. Honestly, they should just go now.

Be leaders. Forge that trail.

We'll stay here and handle things, ourselves.

[Aviation Pro]

63. That was a depiction of Queen Elizabeth....

...the whole fucking movie was an extension of Social Security receipient Ayn Rand's Atlas Fucking Had a Bowel Movement.

[BlancheSplanchnik]

38. exactly. thats their modus operandi and I'm sick of it.

Adults need to stop allowing their childish lies to go unchallenged.

[Lucky Luciano]

46. Of course, Bloomberg endorsed Obama today. nt

[valerief]

50. Lordy, you speak Republicanese! nt

[Dark n Stormy Knight]

59. i thought they were waiting to put enough mechanisms in place by which they could profit from

pushing the idea of climate change. I just can't figure out what's taking them so long.

[tblue37]

60. Just as they claim credit for th Civil Rights movement. nt

[Zorra]

61. Oh, yeah. Welcome to DU!

[Yul A]

2. Big K&R

[Delphinus]

3. Actually,

it's "Global Climate Change", but I'm glad they went where they did.

[truebluegreen]

9. Actually, they are two names for the same thing...

the globe is getting warmer, and that is causing climate change globally, but not uniformly. It is not like someone put the planet in a convection oven...

[DonRedwood]

10. A skunk by any other name is just as stinky....

[cui bono]

25. Same thing. Warming was dropped when the idiots said "it's snowing, that proves global warming

doesn't exist."

I think they are purposely using the term "Global Warming" as a slap in the face to the morons.

[littlemissmartypants]

4. duh

[Sekhmets Daughter]

5. Sometimes you have to love Bloomberg,

and sometimes you have to resist the urge to kick him in the head.

[DonRedwood]

11. today i love him

[Sekhmets Daughter]

13. Exactly,

and the day he called Obama the most arrogant man he'd ever met or the day he endorsed Mitt Romney I wanted to kick him in the head.

[EverHopeful]

49. Had to thank you for this comment :-)

Although I think that's what makes us better than the authoritarians. We sometimes disagree with what someone says or does yet we don't just ignore the stuff with which we disagree. We don't need to cling to some childish illusion of certainty and see things, or people for that matter, in black and white.

Sometimes you really do want to at least slap Bloomberg upside the head but, alas, he's only human and therefore we must expect occasional bouts of teh stoopid (going after large soft drinks while saying nothing about GMO labeling comes to mind).

Well, today I'd offer a hug rather than a slap 'cause those daily press briefings really helped me feel slightly less scared to death. I was out in Times Square earlier and it seems so freaking normal it's uncanny. I credit Bloomberg with much of that--Bloomberg and the indomitable spirit of New Yorkers, of course.

http://members.shaw.ca/jeanaltemeyer/drbob/TheAuthoritarians.pdf

[Sekhmets Daughter]

51. He is a very effective communicator

and will not become defined as a "noun, a verb and Hurricane Sandy" in the future.

[ChisolmTrailDem]

6. About time someone said it loud and clear. eom

[snappyturtle]

7. Finally.....love it! nt

[Liberalynn]

8. Finally people are recognizing the obvious

[wickerwoman]

33. Because Western insurance companies are finally having to pay out for it...

[irisblue]

12. privileged glimpse of the bleedin obvious

*benny hill, late 70's I think, English Comedian* totally swiped

[SCVDem]

14. Climate Change

But if you want to make a refuttable point you call it Global Warming and point at the snow in West Virginia.

Ha Ha! Tell W. Va. it's global warming! (Any Fox talking head or James Inhofe)

[neffernin]

28. Global warming doesn't matter as much as

looking at how much damage we are doing to the planet overall. The runaway greenhouse affect is a scary thing, no lie, but it is really hard to pinpoint how much we are contributing to it or at what point is there no turning back; this is what gives those right-wingers the ability to refute it. What there is no arguing is that we are destroying ecosystems fairly systematically, turning jungles into deserts, and polluting ALL of the earths water including the massive oceans. This is what should be front and center.

[cprise]

41. Eventually, damage from AGW will swamp all the other damage

...combined. And nothing but nothing will turn verdant land into deserts as effectively. There are still 87 years to go before 2100, and conditions are already bordering on 'nasty'.

As for your doubt about how much warming is man-made, the natural climatic cycle is supposed to have us on a cooling trend heading toward another ice age.

[MH1]

55. Damage to biodiversity might kill off humanity faster.

Actually I don't know, but it seems quite possible.

One of the scariest things to me, as someone who's taken a few biology classes and paid attention to nature since I was a child, is how much most people DON'T know about all the MANY ways we are fucking this world up. They think technology will save us. They are wrong. (It will probably save a few. But it won't be 99%ers.)

[cprise]

68. AGW will be the major cause of biodiversity loss

Most species will not be able to adapt on a timescale of 100 years, and after 2100 it keeps getting worse (if we keep our emissions trend the same).

[mountain grammy]

16. 'bout time!! don't care what they call it as long as they acknowlege it!

[OnyxCollie]

17. It's something both parties agree on- "Let's ignore it."

Actions taken to correct the problem affect the bottom line for corporations, so the issue must not be discussed.

Similarly, torture and drone strikes have the effect of eroding civil rights while furthering the war for oil, so they will not be discussed, either.

[nadinbrzezinski]

18. A generation too late

And didn't Gore say NYC would be under water?

[WilliamPitt]

19. Story that goes with the cover here

http://www.businessweek.com/articles/2012-11-01/its-global-warming-stupid

[DonRedwood]

56. thank you!

[heaven05]

21. bout' time

[SaveAmerica]

22. Bloomberg has impressed me with its coverage (truthiness) the past

several months. They've been all over the mess that is Mitt.

[LeftInTX]

26. I agree

Too bad "low information voters" don't read it

[1StrongBlackMan]

23. NPR ...

Had a climatologist (I think) saying that climate change had nothing to do with Sandy's formation, intensity or its track. But then, to my untrained ear, went on to describe how hurricanes form over warm water and track along that warm water until they clash with colder water/air, at which point they intensify. Then he stated, "well, yes ... the water is warmer than 'normal' and that warmer water IS tracking farther north; and yes, that warmer water DID clash with an abnormally large winter storm front; but climate change had nothing to do with Sandy!"

Again ... to my untrained ear ... that sounded awfully alot like: "No, its not a duck, even though it has feathers, quacks, waddles, lives around water and birdologists have labeled it a duck; but no, its not a duck."

[Doc Holliday]

45. "Well...."

"....we agree that it is in fact some sort of aquatic fowl....we have yet to reach a consensus on precisely which one it is. Although, as has been pointed out, there is evidence of feathers, and witnesses claim to have heard quacking noises. It is perhaps of interest that these sightings have usually occurred near water. It definitely requires further research."

[davidpdx]

64. I wish you could find out who that was

and look up how credible of a person he is as a scientist. Even after hearing this second hand I have to wonder if the guy is sane. I'd like to smack him up the side of the head.

[SoapBox]

27. Kick

[GraniteDem]

29. The cover of Bloomberg Businesweek

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[randome]

30. The same for gay rights. The haters and deniers have second thoughts when big business weighs in.

It's an unfortunate but real aspect of our society.

[EmeraldCityGrl]

32. Fuck Bloomberg. They never say a damn word till

it hits them in their own backyard. To congratulate him for saying what needed to be said
years ago is insulting to so many people in many parts of the world that have been suffering
the consequences of GCC for a long time.

Billions, probably trillions will need to be spent in infrastructure changes. Bloomberg is the 1%
Tell me you support paying higher taxes to contribute to the work that needs to be done to save
your precious backyard. Then maybe I'm interested in what you have to say. Put your money
where your mouth is Bloomberg!

[lindysalsagal]

34. Better late than never. n/t.

[Dont call me Shirley]

36. Bloomberg is becoming a radical?! Huh?!

[calimary]

37. THANK YOU! Better late than never, I guess.

Once AGAIN, I have to say it. WE were right. I don't like to use the word "right" very much. It's been hijacked and its meaning completely perverted by the CONS.

But here again, WE were right. And of course nobody listened because it was some dumb thing that some dumb libruls made up to scare us into not shopping - or cutting taxes for the ultra-rich and elites.

Glad somebody's finally waking up somewhere, I guess...

[Mrs. Ted Nancy]

39. Shouldn't the word "Stupid"

have a picture of Jim Inhofe next to it?

[raouldukelives]

40. Spend your life trumpeting Wall St and profiting from climate change.

Giving a major voice to the deniers while dismissing the looming reality. Then when the shit hits the fan claim your opposed to it while still continuing to trumpet they very industries and practices that got us here. Sounds like a Wall St investor. "Climate change is a serious problem! Someone should try to slow its progress! Thank God it has nothing to do with me!"

[Skittles]

42. a step in the left direction

[Blue Idaho]

43. And all it took was a hurricane directly hitting the power elite...

in the heart of New York City? Bust up a few penthouses and screw up a few days of trading on the stock exchange and BOOM - its global warning STUPID!

Why didn't I think of that!

[Anthony McCarthy]

47. So we now know

So we now know that you've got to destroy NYC to convince the media whores what is blazingly obvious all around the world.

[ProudProgressiveNow]

48. K&R nt

[Hestia]

52. Y'all really need to go see PBS' Frontline - Climate of Doubt

and see what's really happened with the Global Warming "debate" and you'll understand why we are where we are. John Kerry is great explaining the facts about this.

One place that was hit by Sandy and is discussed in NC is Mirlo Beach (sp?) - which is where the highway buckled but no real surge damage. This area is discussed extensively on the show.

Here is the link - http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/climate-of-doubt/ you can even watch for free online (how long is PBS going to be able to afford that? I'll enjoy it while I can.)

Now that we see who and what we are fighting and Sandy happened (why didn't Katrina wake us all up? Because it happened up North?) we can really fight to get this at the top of the National Agenda. PBO stated that we need to nation build at home - this should be item #1.

One thing that really needs to be pushed is Conservation, which does more now than anything else. Of course, though, with the fall of demand on oil, what does the US do? Sell it.

[davidpdx]

65. And that rebuilding at home is going to also have to consist of more levies

unfortunately because we've done such a crappy job with environmental issues. I heard $5 billion for a levy in NY. I'm sure there are other areas that would need them as well. If we'd actually been dealing with the issues it would have saved us a fortune and lives as well. It's just not the US that has screwed the pooch, China's pollution is now reaching the west coast of the US. After spending 10 months there I know just how bad it is.

[D23MIURG23]

53. Holy shit. K&R

[jsmirman]

54. The cost was and is agonizing - this would be a wonderful step forward, though

still scared out of my mind for our future, but to hear this stuff publicly and forcefully voiced...

[Iwillnevergiveup]

57. Love nice, round numbers

Lucky Rec #200 - this thread may set a record, though.

[jimlup]

58. Chomsky often explains that...

they tell the business classes the truth as they are the managers of society...

[LAGC]

66. Yeah, I used to subscribe to Business Week before Bloomberg bought them out.

And I was often surprised by how often conservative talking points were criticized in there, considering their mostly corporate audience.

If you want the pure and unadulterated truth, not just Chamber of Commerce propaganda, just read the mainstream business press.

They are very candid.

[defacto7]

62. K&R

[pam4water]

67. Does Bloomberg know the 1% eat their own if they step out of line? Waits for the feeding frenzy. n/t

[Iggy]

69. Nope; the Contrarians and Naysayers

are not going to buy into climate change, UNLESS it's something wayyyyyy more dramatic.. something
you'd see in the movies..

like Hurricane Sandy waking up Godzilla who comes into Manhattan, stomping on buildings, killing 1,000's
of people.

keep in mind these are the same people who, after 9/11, actually believed Hussein was responsible for the
attack. most of them STILL believe Hussein was responsible

BTW, in the just completed presidential candidate debates, the phrase "climate change" was not uttered
even once-- by either candidate.

Wonder why??