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Tadpole Raisin

(972 posts)
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:56 AM Jun 2022

So republicans are bracing for fallout from Roe ruling. They should be.

https://www.politico.com/amp/news/2022/06/24/the-dog-that-caught-the-car-republicans-brace-for-the-impact-of-reversing-roe-00042387

Snip:

This is not a conversation we want to have,” said John Thomas, a Republican strategist who works on House campaigns across the country. “We want to have a conversation about the economy. We want to have a conversation about Joe Biden, about pretty much anything else besides Roe … This is a losing issue for Republicans.”

The decision, issued Friday, was a landmark victory for conservatives who have held up overturning Roe as an ambition of near-biblical significance, fundraising, organizing and legislating off opposition to abortion rights for nearly half a century.

But it’s a victory that will almost certainly come at a cost. In Republican circles, a consensus has been forming for weeks that the court’s overturning of a significant — and highly popular — precedent on a deeply felt issue will be a liability for the party in the midterms and beyond, undercutting Republicans to at least some degree with moderates and suburban women.

“The only thing [Democrats] have got going for them is the Roe thing, which is what, 40 years of settled law that will be changed that will cause some societal consternation,” said the former congressman, granted anonymity to speak candidly. “And can they turn that into some turnout? I think the answer is probably ‘Yes.’”
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I think they are wrong! If there are any women who aren’t paying attention (why do these idiot men think women won’t care about this) they have 4 months to have a mishap in their sexual lives to realize they are no more than property and their bodies no longer belong to them.

Game on!!
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So republicans are bracing for fallout from Roe ruling. They should be. (Original Post) Tadpole Raisin Jun 2022 OP
All the more reason the GOP will go after the voting systems. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #1
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #2
EXACTLY - people still don't get how this game is played and the end goal dwayneb Jun 2022 #6
Yes there is much denial about where this is going. You nailed it. Irish_Dem Jun 2022 #15
they're gonna lose the soccer moms over this. mopinko Jun 2022 #3
Are they ready for church attendance to drop even further? Lars39 Jun 2022 #4
Some women do care about this. Most, in fact. PTWB Jun 2022 #5
Unfortunately absolutely correct. OnDoutside Jun 2022 #7
Abortion rso Jun 2022 #14
And not just the politicians. C_U_L8R Jun 2022 #8
K&R spanone Jun 2022 #9
The only thing Democrats have going for them??? tavernier Jun 2022 #10
Game on, indeed! peggysue2 Jun 2022 #11
Good idea for Dem talking point now. Maraya1969 Jun 2022 #12
NOVEMBER, NOVEMBER & NOVEMBER!!! Stuart G Jun 2022 #13

Irish_Dem

(46,578 posts)
1. All the more reason the GOP will go after the voting systems.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 10:58 AM
Jun 2022

If they cannot win elections anymore, they will have to cheat to maintain power.

Response to Irish_Dem (Reply #1)

dwayneb

(766 posts)
6. EXACTLY - people still don't get how this game is played and the end goal
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:26 AM
Jun 2022

Although the Roe decision is horrific, it's just one baby step down the path of the Fascist Right gaining total control of our governments, both Federal and State.

They are succeeding all over the country at putting their goose-stepping puppets in all levels of government, from school boards, to state legislatures to state Secretaries.

They are succeeding at gerrymandering in most states to their unfair advantage.

And, when they place the right guy into the White House, whether it's by "win" or by "coup", whether it is Trump or DeSantis or someone even worse, they will demolish the rule of law, right down to the studs.

Irish_Dem

(46,578 posts)
15. Yes there is much denial about where this is going. You nailed it.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 12:53 PM
Jun 2022

The GOP wants total permanent power and access to all US financial assets.
Just like what Putin and Xi have in their countries.

And the installation of white male christian minority rule.

They will do anything to achieve their goals. They will take over everything from local school boards to the Supreme Court. They will cheat, lie, rob, threaten, bribe to get what they want.

There will be a draconian laws for most of us.

For the elite there will no constraints whatsoever.

mopinko

(70,023 posts)
3. they're gonna lose the soccer moms over this.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:16 AM
Jun 2022

white suburban women are the sweet spot they crave, and they just pissed it away.
just in time for a pivotal election.

game on indeed.

Lars39

(26,107 posts)
4. Are they ready for church attendance to drop even further?
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:19 AM
Jun 2022

I know the SBC attendance has been dropping. When they go after birth control I figure those churches will look ghost towns.

 

PTWB

(4,131 posts)
5. Some women do care about this. Most, in fact.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:20 AM
Jun 2022

But over 40% of women voted for Trump and the most fervent anti-choice people I’ve ever met have been women. Women are not a voting monolith.

C_U_L8R

(44,992 posts)
8. And not just the politicians.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:34 AM
Jun 2022

I couldn't give a shit for any republican. The whole stinking lot of them can fuck right off. They don't deserve squat... not even a common courtesy.

tavernier

(12,369 posts)
10. The only thing Democrats have going for them???
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:50 AM
Jun 2022

How about the need for our children to be safe from being gunned down while learning their ABC’s? The polls show that a majority of the people out there want stricter gun laws.

How about the hearing presently going on that clearly shows our country being shoved into the toilet by Republicans no longer desiring democracy?

How about SCOTUS being manipulated and run by a crazy conspiracy theorist spouse?

They want us to think that there is nothing else that the country is concerned about other than Roe versus Wade, but that’s just not true.

peggysue2

(10,824 posts)
11. Game on, indeed!
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:51 AM
Jun 2022

This decision just turned the November elections upside down. The Democratic Party and all our candidates can now take the reins of the narrative.

Between the decision on Roe and the reluctance to pass meaningful gun control (and yes, I realize we got a very moderate package passed this week), the other 'Big Lie' has been exposed: Republicans don't give a shit about human life, certainly not the lives of women, the lives we actually live and navigate. And they don't care about children (unless they're the unborn) bc the massacre in Uvalde where fully actualized children were decapitated, shredded to pieces could only conjure a weak tea gun law, not for the sake of the dead but for the sake of Republican political careers, a way of making them look less ghoulish.

This is a tipping point if the narrative is used wisely and consistently. The Pro-Life Party is the party of death, life restricting rules and religious, gun-fetish zealotry.

All at the hands of a MINORITY.

Of course, Republicans want to change the subject.

Let the games begin!

Maraya1969

(22,464 posts)
12. Good idea for Dem talking point now.
Sat Jun 25, 2022, 11:54 AM
Jun 2022

From the link

"But even if Roe alone is not sufficient to remake the midterms in Democrats’ favor, it could fit into what Longwell called an “overall case the Democratic Party should be prosecuting against Republicans” — wedding Roe with the court’s decision the previous day on gun control, among other issues, to depict the post-Donald Trump GOP as one still animated by extremes."

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