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[jimfields33]

1. Doesn't help at all.

[gldstwmn]

2. Help what?

[jimfields33]

4. The article explains they lied about crucial facts about the congress woman.

The Ted cruz story, the abortion the picture of the woman as an escort. These hurt credibility to be honest.

[gldstwmn]

8. Hurt whose credibility? I tried to explain this to people almost two weeks ago.

We don't know who this PAC is. We should have been looking sideways at the original story the whole time. They are endorsing a Republican.

[TigressDem]

61. This is like the Proud Boys and Boogaloo Bois at BLM protests, amping violence to make DEMs look bad

I think DEM states will see lots of out of state license plates and if we investigate, they belong to groups trying to stir the pot and keep the violence and mistrust going because that helps the REICH WING keep marching.

Minnesota has historic gun violence happening. I've seen more out of state licenses in the last few years since the George Floyd murder and protests than I ever saw before. There was also a lot of car-jackings going on and it makes sense those groups would run from state to state to escape capture.

tRump's 8000 marched on The Capitol and blamed ANTIFA, who of course WASN'T there.



SO if this PAC is pretending to be "The OANN of the Left" and posting false information to make DEMs seem to be also playing the lying game about the other side....

THEY are doing the work and giving US the credit to make US look bad.

AND supporting a Republican candidate.

THE SCUM BAGS.

[gldstwmn]

63. Yes. It's like the Umbrella Man at the Auto Zone.

[Iggo]

97. Every democrat who gleefully spread the bullshit.

[Kingofalldems]

95. Whose credibility?

[jimfields33]

96. I don't answer old posts I wrote.

The information was at least a day ago or so. I’m not reading the article again either. Too busy. Sorry. Please reply to my post quicker. Thanks! Have a great Sunday night!

[Phoenix61]

3. Interesting how concerned CNN is with fact checking this PAC

Yet let repukes lie non-stop. Let alternative-facts slide right on past them.

Liberal media my ass.

[gldstwmn]

5. This PAC is endorsing a Republican. I've yet to see them endorse a Democrat.

[Phoenix61]

12. They picked the best of the worst.

“I’m a lifelong Democrat,” Wheeler said. “[But] Madison Cawthorn is a clear and present danger to our nation whose re-election must be fought every step of the way. For that reason, I am changing my registration today to unaffiliated, temporarily, so that I can cast my vote for Wendy Nevarez in the May 17th Republican Primary. I hope hard working Democrats, Republicans, and Unaffiliated voters will consider doing the same.”

[gldstwmn]

16. I can't find any info online about that guy. Sure he ran as a Democrat but we've seen people do

that before. If you read the whole article, she has grounds for a lawsuit. There's a good possibility she was going to lose on Tuesday anyway. Now it looks like we dropped a dime on her. The whole thing is a mess.

[Phoenix61]

24. You haven't looked very hard then. There's lots of info

about both of the men who started muckrakers.
“In late March, a super PAC started by U.S. Rep. Madison Cawthorn’s 2020 Democrat opponent, Moe Davis, endorsed Wendy Nevarez in the Republican primary for N.C.’s 11th Congressional District. The American Muckrakers PAC — also known as the Fire Madison Cawthorn PAC — encouraged Democrats to switch their affiliation to unaffiliated and vote for
Nevarez. “
https://www.carolinajournal.com/mountain-democrats-seek-to-defeat-cawthorn-by-winning-republican-primary/

Who is David Wheeler? American Muckrakers PAC set sights on Boebert.

https://www.carolinajournal.com/mountain-democrats-seek-to-defeat-cawthorn-by-winning-republican-primary/

[gldstwmn]

26. Yeah, I've seen that and that's it. That's from their website. Who endorsed his Congressional run?

What can you find out about his Congressional run? Do any of the party higher ups know this guy? Also they have only endorsed a Republican.

[Phoenix61]

30. Moe Davis was the candidate who ran against Cawthon.

I’m not the least bit curious about his past political campaign.
I already posted why they endorsed a Republican but again,
“Wendy Nevarez is a Navy veteran, a wife, mother of four kids, and a descendant of the Eastern Band of Cherokee Indians. Our team evaluated all the candidates and she is the most qualified candidate in the Republican primary for Congress,” David B. Wheeler, president of the American Muckrakers PAC, said in the March 23 statement. “Wendy Navarez has shown she will do the work for our district and get things done in Congress without all the drama of our current Congressman. If Wendy wins, we will all win.”
Cawthorn is the current congressman.

[gldstwmn]

32. You're not answering my question. Also if Wendy Nevarez is a Republican, that makes two

Don Coram being the other.

[Phoenix61]

35. I did. I don't care who backed his political run.

Don Corman’s political career ended before Muckrakers was even formed so they couldn’t have backed him.
https://www.opensecrets.org/political-action-committees-pacs/C00776062/independent-expenditures/2022

[gldstwmn]

37. Don Coram is CURRENTLY a member of

the Colorado Senate. WTF are you talking about?
Further the misogyny and toxic masculinity being propagated by this bullshit story at a time when women are under attack from all sides is both disgusting and infuriating. If you want to beat Boebert on merit that ain't hard to do but to say it's a Democratic PAC and come out with such low level, click bait nonsense, it shouldn't be tolerated by Democrats

[Phoenix61]

39. They haven't backed him anywhere I can find.

I don’t care who bashes Bobert or for what. Anything that makes her unelectable to her base works for me.

They aren’t a dem PAC.

Total Independent Expenditures: $16,190
For Democrats: $0
Against Democrats: $0
For Republicans: $0
Against Republicans: $16,190
Total Electioneering Communications: $0

[gldstwmn]

41. Here you go:

Link to tweet

?t=f6zY9rEioyhTLCj8FbBMhA&s=19

[Phoenix61]

42. They are backing Boebert's primary challenger. This is

the same tactic they took with Cawthorn.
“I’m Boebert’s District, as Elsewhere, Democrats Surge Into G.O.P. Primary
Thousands of Democrats in Western Colorado are voting in the primary on Tuesday against Representative Lauren Boebert, part of a broader effort to defeat far-right Republicans.”

Seems lots of Dems are doing the same thing.

[gldstwmn]

43. So they'll endorse the Democrat in CO 3

after Tuesday is what you're telling me? I'll be watching.

[Phoenix61]

44. No, I'm not. Their stated goal is to unseat crazy repukes.

Period. That’s it. They started to unseat Cawthorn. Their financials made that clear. Now they are going after Boebert.

[gldstwmn]

45. So they're just endorsing Republicans then.

Who are they endorsing in the general for the seat about to be vacated by Cawthorn?

[Phoenix61]

46. One more time. They formed to get Cawthorn out of office.

They did that by supporting his primary opponent. They are now doing the same thing with Boebert. If you want to take that as endorsing republicans, have at it.

[quakerboy]

47. Is flat out helping republicans

And that harms Democrats.

Replacing cawthorne with a more mainstream acceptable republican who will still vote for any policy trump endorses and against any policy democrats might want is not a win in any reasonable sense of the word

[gldstwmn]

48. Exactly. It's a bait and switch. No Democrats

are being helped by this.

[MerryBlooms]

101. Then you should stop supporting boebert, full stop. End of discussion.

[TigressDem]

110. No one is supporting Bobert, we simply don't want FAKE DEMs making US look bad.

David Wheeler is a registered Republican.

This "oops" our bad, is like Proud Boys dressing up as MPs and going in and shooting up a WalMart.

Just because they are dressed as Marines, doesn't mean that Marines murdered people. But people believe what they see.

Wolves in sheep's clothing.

[Phoenix61]

53. It's in an area there is no chance a dem will win.

It’s why we put up with Manchin. It’s why a bunch of Dems switched parties just so they could vote for Boebert’s primary opponent. Are you saying they just want to help republicans?

[gldstwmn]

58. No Dem will win? False. The reason Ted Cruz

donated to Boebert was because a Dem was going to win that seat. It was previously held by John Salazar whose brother Ken was Secretary of the Interior under President Obama. They are true, lifelong Democrats not a couple of guys who are masquerading as Democrats.

[Phoenix61]

64. The seat has been red which is why Bush was campaigning

to flip it. Salazar is the only D to have the seat since 1985. So, in the past 37 years the seat has been held by an R for 31 of those years.

[gldstwmn]

66. False. It was Ben Nighthorse Campbell's

old seat. You can do your own homework on him.
This PAC now has a restraining order on them in CO so maybe it's time for them to move on from Colorado politics and go after Marjorie Taylor Greene for the hat trick. Maybe they can say she's trans, into bestiality or an alien from the planet Uranus, whatever the hate filled flavor of the day is.
We've got a Stanley Cup to win tonight.

[Phoenix61]

67. Yes it was and he was a Republican. nt

[gldstwmn]

69. False. Ben Nighthorse Campbell was a Democrat

for the entire time he served in the House of Representatives. He later ran for the United States Senate as a Republican.

[Phoenix61]

72. I stand corrected

So for the past 37 years the seat has been held by a Republican for 25 of them.

[gldstwmn]

75. So the Dems should just stay home

or switch their party affiliation to Republican and vote for Boebert's opponent is that it? You have a so called Dem PAC effectively suppressing voter turnout in only the second primary Colorado has ever had. Not one Dem has been helped by this Dem PAC so far. Not one.

[Phoenix61]

78. Sheesh! How are they suppressing voter turnout?

Again. They. Are. Not. A. Dem. Pac.!!!! I have no idea what you are talking about. Colorado’s second primary ever?

[gldstwmn]

79. Yes. Until the last election cycle Colorado

used straw polls and caucuses. This is literally our second primary in the history of the state. Earlier in this thread you asserted the PAC was a Dem PAC. Are you telling me they aren't now?

[Phoenix61]

81. I most definitely did not. They aren't listed as a Dem Pac.

They never said they were a Dem pack. Their goal was to get rid of Cawthorn. Now they want to get rid of Boebert.

[quakerboy]

103. Im saying that If i was a democratic candidate in that district

I would rather run against Cawthorne than the guy who replaced him. Any time, every time. no matter what the odds were when you started, they are better against an obvious raving loon than an equally evil dude who can present as "normal".

And as a Democrat in ANY district in the USA i would rather run against ANY republican who publicly, willingly shares a party with Cawthorne than a party that is perceived to have booted the crazy person.

[Phoenix61]

116. Country over party every single time.

It makes for some difficult decisions but it’s the only way to fight the march towards fascism.

[quakerboy]

121. The decision is EASY.

As a Democrat in a hard district.. I have a chance against a Cawthorne. I have less of a chance against his "sane" Republican replacement.

And the sad fact is that his replacement will vote against the country just as often as Cawthorne ever did. they will harm america every bit as much, if not more.

There is no significant difference between a "normal" elected republican and a "crazy" elected republican when it comes to how they vote on issues of importance.

A chance is better than no chance, in the absence of any other significant difference.

[Phoenix61]

122. Country over party. Period. nt

[TigressDem]

108. BUT it means we face an apponent who MIGHT be sane VS one we know is batshit crazy.

It's like do you want to face Mike Tyson and HOPE he isn't in the ear biting mood or someone else not so inclined to go nuts and cheat?

Same principal.

STILL in the actual election, it's back to VOTE BLUE!!

[TigressDem]

107. They are making Bobert a "victim" of viscous lies... to make DEMs look bad.

So who is going to sort out her real BS and untrue things said about her? Not her base.

If "DEMS" are spreading even ONE false statement about her, it invalidates EVERY statement about her actual wrong behavior.

Remember the cop who shot a guy and freaked out because she "meant to use her taser"?

It became all about her poor little me meltdown instead of, she's so stupid she doesn't know her gun from her taser? AND he's dead.

She's just crying.

[Phoenix61]

117. But it's not "Dems". Liberal media my ass. nt

[TigressDem]

106. DEMs should sue them for defamation of the party. He is a registered Republican.

DAVID B WHEELER == https://voterrecords.com/voter/51095448/david-wheeler
David Wheeler's Voter Registration
Party Affiliation: Republican Party
Registered to Vote In: Wake County, North Carolina
Registration Date: 01/01/1984
Voter Status: Active
Status Reason: Verified

[Thtwudbeme]

113. You have the wrong David B. Wheeler. Wake Co is down around Raleigh. The one you are looking for

lives in Mitchell Co. He's a registered Dem. The state here maintains a database.

The guy you are looking for lives about 3 hours from our main house, and about 30 minutes from our place in the mountains.

[TigressDem]

114. Then why is he ACTING like a Repuke? Sigh

There are a lot of David Wheelers in NC. I thought with the correct middle initial and age, I had him.

I guess it makes more sense in a way because how would they have let him run for office if he'd voted Republican since college days?

BUT we had Norm Coleman here in Minnesota and he was a closet Rethug because somehow they offered him more of what he wanted.

[Cha]

28. That's what I was thinking.. Got "Concrn"

for the Fascist Fuckhead Zombies Gaslighting America, CNN?

💙💛

[Jedi Guy]

54. Are we reading the same CNN?

The one I'm reading has consistently referred to Trump's Big Lie in precisely those terms and does so to this day. Their political analysis pieces consistently called out his other lies (and kept a counter of how many lies he'd told to that date in his administration) and provided the facts in their place.

I don't watch TV so I guess it's possible that their broadcast programming is different, but why would it be? I'm just not seeing what you're seeing with regard to CNN in particular.

[LoisB]

6. What is the point of lying about her? There is enough she actually says and does that can be

used to discredit her. Leave the lying to the GQP.

[gldstwmn]

9. Yes. That is what I said originally and was roundly criticized for it.

Something about hypocrisy, like we don't already know Republicans are hypocrites.

[LoisB]

18. I am sorry you were criticized for it. As far as I am concerned you are correct. Everyone is

entitled to an opinion but to me, if our side starts lying about people like her, it helps them and hurts us.

[Act_of_Reparation]

7. I'm finding it hard to care whether it is true.

If they get to say Democrats groom kids and drink blood, then fuck it, she can be an escort married to a guy who pulls his dick out in bowling alleys.

[Nevilledog]

10. I'm with you.

[gldstwmn]

11. Really? The truth no longer matters?

[Phoenix61]

14. If some random group wants to spend their money

publishing crap about a repuke candidate I’m fine with that.

[orangecrush]

19. NO IT DOES NOT

The only thing that matters at this point

IS FUCKING STOPPING THEM.

[gldstwmn]

21. How was this going to stop them?

[orangecrush]

25. DON'T CARE

AND BYE.

[gldstwmn]

27. You cared enough to respond. Have a nice evening.

[TigressDem]

109. But what if it makes her "poor little victim" and US the bad guy when it wasn't real DEMs?

David Wheeler is a registered Republican since 1984.

HOW is he allowed to run as a DEM or have a DEM Super Pac?


This pac spreading lies is sabotaging DEMs, not little Miss Repukely.

[Nevilledog]

22. I've got other things to worry about than if Lauren Boebert's feelings got hurt.

We are living in a post-truth world created by Republicans. If they sometime get burned, not my fucking problem.

Did I spread or make up lies about her? No. NOT. MY. PROBLEM.

If you want to spend your time talking about how someone said mean things about the woman who tweeted out Pelosi's location on January 6th, go for it.



P.S. You know she probably sent out an email and fundraised off the story, right?

[gldstwmn]

23. I'm not concerned with Lauren Boebert's feelings.

This PAC is also raising money off this too. They're claiming to be Democrats so yeah, it does matter.
It's not like I'm posting about the Real Housewives.

[orangecrush]

17. +1

[TigressDem]

65. It is promoting FALSE Equivilency. DEMs DO NOT NEED TO LIE about Bobert. She's scum.

By creating this super PAC and making it look like DEMs have given up on DEMs and endorsing Repukes, it feeds into the lie that DEMs are not a better choice than Repukes.


WE DON'T NEED TO LIE. Their candidates are not qualified to win and can't win without election suppression.

WE DON'T RE-ELECT DEMs who CAN NOT DO THE JOB..... Manchin and Sinema CAN do the job, they WON'T and hopefully we will correct that, but they are the exception. Usually we have MANY Qualified candidates.

The REICH WING is scraping the bottom of the barrel on purpose because their end goal is to destroy government by putting in the worst of the worst.


This is like a REICH WING militia putting on DC Police Uniforms and going out and making false arrests and beating people to discredit the DC Police.


So the new talking point will be, "How can you defend your 'facts' when your liberal media lies all the time?"


BECAUSE THESE AS****S are IMPERSONATING LIBERAL MEDIA TO MAKE US LOOK LIKE THUGS AND LIARS.

[Act_of_Reparation]

104. I'm not saying we need to lie.

I'm saying I'm fucking frustrated because we've been doing everything you suggest we do and it doesn't seem to make the slightest fucking difference. People don't care what's true. They only seem to give a shit about what they want to be true.

[TigressDem]

105. I am as frustrated as you are, my friend. The Cult of tRump has my son in it's grip.

He tells me his vote was "stolen" because although he checked his registration prior to voting in person and went to the place we always vote and has been registered at the same address for nearly a decade, got in and voted.

SOMEONE told him to check on his vote online. He went to whatever link they provided. It looked like a government website. But it told him he did not vote in the 2020 election and was no longer registered to vote at his address.

The ONLY vote check I see on any official state authorized website is for Absentee or Mail-in Ballots.

In the past I worked tech support with a company that had an arrangement with the airlines. The airlines used their own system to open their tickets for tech support and then sent it to our system which basically cut and pasted the information. So the airlines did not see what blanks were being filled on our side, only theirs.

SO if someone wanted to point people in the direction of thinking their vote was stolen, they could use this type of interface page. Basically copy the "Check My Vote" page for Absentee Ballots and change a few words so the person is actually checking to see if they were registered to vote via the mail and where their ballot is. So the answer for someone who voted in person would be NO.


BUT BECAUSE THE CULT OF tRUMP has OANN and FAUX telling him so many lies, he says the fact that I can't find this link, means it's been scrubbed so the stolen votes are untraceable.


I checked the actual database and he is STILL actively registered to vote.

I sent a message to the Sec of State to see if I can get a real answer.

[gopiscrap]

13. this is exactly what we need to do

the fucking gop has been doing this sort of shit for the past 50+ years and sad to say it works because there are too many dumb fuck voters out there. If we do the same dirty shit at least we'll be on even ground...sad to say now a days to win, you have to fight from the gutter

[Scrivener7]

50. I've been chastised for saying this, but we also need to get a few damaging dossiers on

republiQan Senators and threaten to use them.

[gopiscrap]

57. exactly

[TigressDem]

82. BUT DEMS will hang people by their OWN LIES. We don't NEED to lie. THEY ARE GUILTY.

THIS PAC is CALLING itself a DEM SuperPac, but David Wheeler is VOTING REPUBLICAN NOW and "accidentally" planted fake leads about Boebert which makes her look like a VICTIM instead of the wicked bitc* that she is.

[Scrivener7]

84. And so what do we believe about whether they are D or R? I know what I believe and I believe

it because of what I see them doing.

[TigressDem]

91. "They" as in the two co-founders of this fake group taking money from DEMs?

https://www.thefocus.news/culture/david-wheeler-american-muckrakers/

RAN as a DEM and is CLAIMING this Muckrakers is a DEM SuperPac, but he IS and has been a Republican.



DAVID B WHEELER == https://voterrecords.com/voter/51095448/david-wheeler
David Wheeler's Voter Registration
Party Affiliation: Republican Party
Registered to Vote In: Wake County, North Carolina
Registration Date: 01/01/1984
Voter Status: Active
Status Reason: Verified

[TigressDem]

93. Having Technical Difficulties. Part 2

MOE is supposedly a DEM, but worked at Guantanamo Bay. He supposedly "quit" over the whole torture issue. (see below **)

BUT he also confronted the Obama administration over something.

AND I can't tell which 64 year old he is in this voter registration link.
https://voteref.com/voters?next=Morris+Carson+Davis&next_id=f4e5db6c-6f0a-49fe-b300-2d64c221cfab&q=morris+davis&query_type=voter&state_name=North+Carolina



https://ballotpedia.org/Morris_%22Moe%22_Davis

Morris Davis (Democratic Party) (also known as Moe) ran for election to the U.S. House to represent North Carolina's 11th Congressional District. He lost in the general election on November 3, 2020.


https://firemadison.com/about-us/leadership/





Morris Durham "Moe" Davis is an American retired U.S. Air Force colonel, attorney, educator, politician, and former administrative law judge. Davis was appointed the third Chief Prosecutor of the Guantanamo military commissions, where he served from September 2005 until October 2007. Wikipedia
Born: July 31, 1958 (age 63 years), Shelby, NC
Spouse: Lisa Davis
Party: Democratic Party


SEEMS like A DINO --- based on his article about Guantánamo -- because later he says he left due to torture issues. Which is it?

**
"The Guantánamo I Know"
On June 26, 2007, an op-ed by Davis, entitled "The Guantanamo I know", was published in the New York Times.[17] In it, Davis argued that the Guantánamo Bay detention center is humane, professional, and operating in compliance with international law.

[TigressDem]

68. NO. I get where you are coming from, but NO.

Yes their tactics work, but if we stoop to their level, we've lost who we are and the ability to do what needs to be done.

WHAT WE NEED IS a TRUE MAJORITY and to get Truth in NEWS laws put into effect, campaign finance reform, election protection and so on...

Truth in NEWS means YOU CAN'T CALL IT NEWS unless you have the ACTUAL FACTS in the NEWS CAST. As soon as it moves into opinion, the banner runs at the bottom of the screen, this is no longer the news portion of the show, this is an opinion about the NEWS and as such is not the opinion of the NEWS program you are watching. Look at the facts and make your own opinion.

WE HAVE TO TAKE AWAY THEIR ABILITY TO GET AWAY WITH LYING and IMPERSONATING US and LYING on our behalf.

DEMs are not perfect, but we have integrity and do our own work.

IF WE say something bad about someone else, it's because we found enough evidence to believe it.

WE HAVE TO KEEP THAT STANDARD or we are just more of the people working for the Cult of tRump without getting paid to do it.

[RANDYWILDMAN]

15. 5 tall tails, so about 10 minutes of Boebert talking

[cherish44]

20. I'm sorry but no one with 2 brain cells would ever think she's an escort

I'd say truck stop lot lizard at most.

[JI7]

29. The Media and others should Investigate these claims

[gldstwmn]

31. The link I posted leads to a pretty long article. According to Daniel Dale the author

another reporter was working on it as well:

Link to tweet

?s=20&t=Yort7fyLow_oaUM2pkiR5A

[48656c6c6f20]

33. This is fake news

I know the story is true.

See how easy it is? I'm going to start playing like they do.

[gldstwmn]

34. No hypocrisy there

[blogslug]

36. That PAC got lucky with the stuff about Madison Cawthorn, IMHO

Somebody(s) had been holding onto those videos, images and texts involving Cawthorn for years and the Muckrakers PAC were the lucky recipients of (I think) a slow-burning, personal grudge.

As for the Boebert stuff, my guess is the Muckrakers PAC is terrible at vetting its sources at the least. How could they not research the obvious watermark on that photo of Melissa Carone that says "Explore Talent"? How could they not question that source?

Muckrakers PAC are a bunch of suckers and they overplayed their hand.

[gldstwmn]

38. They're also fundraising off this.

Where is that money going I wonder? To Democrats?

[DFW]

40. Spreading lies about political opponents

Who does this guy think he is, anyway? A Republican?

[Scrivener7]

49. Keep in mind: this is a republiQan group. They did it so well to Cawthorn. Then they screwed

this up in such an obvious way, which now makes Boebert teflon.

I suspect this means the republiQan powers that be didn't like Cawthorn, but see Boebert as the future. And this was all done on purpose.

[gldstwmn]

62. They are claiming to be Democrats.

Boebert is likely to lose on Tuesday. Are we just going to allow people to run around and disclose women's abortions and call them whores now? It's outrageous.

[TigressDem]

77. EXACTLY!!

[Scrivener7]

83. OK, but that has nothing to do with my point.

[gldstwmn]

85. I'm sorry. Did I miss it? I'm quite upset that these folks rolled into CO's

second ever primary that isn't a straw poll or caucus, encouraged Democrats to switch their voter registration to Republican, vote for a Republican, portray themselves as Democrats to the national media, spread a bunch of misogynistic, salacious nonsense that got people riding their hypocrisy dildo and Boebert was probably going to lose on Tuesday anyway. But now because of this shit a Democrat probably won't win that seat.
The Avalanche better win the Stanley Cup tonight.
I think you are A okay Scrivener7. I really do. But I'm dealing with a lot right now.

[Scrivener7]

86. I guess you did get my point, because my point is that this was part of their plan all along.

And you, too, are A Okay, and we are all very raw.

[gldstwmn]

87. Thanks. I appreciate you.

[Scrivener7]

88. Likewise!

[Demsrule86]

51. How nice. CNN is going to bat for Boebert. when was the last time CNN stood up for a

Democrat? This is why I don't watch CNN or MSNBC or any cable news show. I get my news from the internet and local news.

[gldstwmn]

60. They were asked to run a story that she was

a prostitute and that she had abortions and the reporter actually did his due diligence and found those claims to be false. Isn't that how media is supposed to work?

[TigressDem]

71. In 2021

https://www.cnn.com/2021/10/25/politics/voting-rights-candidates-georgia-arizona-pennsylvania/index.html

[TigressDem]

73. In Feb 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/01/14/politics/joe-biden-democrats-conservative-power/index.html


But unless those two moderates change their minds, Democrats will lose a chance to halt the other big current conservative power play -- a nationwide effort by GOP-run states to make it harder to cast ballots and easier to steal elections, which is rooted in ex-President Donald Trump's voter fraud lies. A parallel effort to restore portions of the Voting Rights Act protections to racial minorities, gutted over the last decade or so by the Supreme Court, will also likely founder in another right-wing victory over democratic values.

[TigressDem]

74. In June 2022

https://www.cnn.com/2022/06/14/politics/donald-trump-statement-january-6-committee/index.html

[TigressDem]

76. And a few more

here:
https://www.cnn.com/2020/11/05/politics/election-2020-congressional-republicans-trump-election-fraud/index.html


here:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/05/21/politics/republicans-january-6-commission-senate/index.html

here:
https://www.cnn.com/2022/05/19/politics/trump-pennsylvania-election-fraud-lies/index.html

here:
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/03/politics/fact-check-trump-impeachment-response-senate/index.html


That is, frankly, ridiculous. Trump lost fair and square. Joe Biden was legitimately elected president. Trump's opinion is factually inaccurate. The end.

[Vinca]

52. Boebert's got enough real stuff to choose from for a story. Funny, though - how

easy this Boebert story was to believe.

[bigtree]

55. cry me a river

...believe the worst about MAGATS

[gldstwmn]

56. I'll cry you a river when these fools show up in

your state and ask your local Democrats to change their voter registration to Republican. Who is going to vote for the Democrats on the ballot Tuesday? How are we going to know which Dem is the best one to run for that seat?
By the way, has Merrick Garland indicted Trump yet? No? Guess what? I'm crying for you.

[Treefrog]

118. Oh snap!

Well done you!

[Autumn]

59. Fuck that lying piece of shit Lauren Boebert.

[TigressDem]

80. Suggest OP Title Edit.... FAKE DEM Group founded by a "NEW" Republican David Wheeler.......

American Muckrakers PAC co-founder David Wheeler hasn't been a DEM since.... he lost his first run as a DEM

https://voterrecords.com/voter/51095448/david-wheeler





https://ballotpedia.org/David_Wheeler_(North_Carolina)



BUT AM I SEEING THINGS?? Why does THIS Republican David Wheeler look like NC David Wheeler after loosing weight and turning Republican? RELATIVES??






https://ballotpedia.org/David_Wheeler_(South_Dakota)

https://sdlegislature.gov/Legislators/Profile/3795/Detail

[Orangepeel]

92. it's news when democrat's claims are false

republican lies are "dog bites man"

[TigressDem]

111. I know, right?

We are expected to maintain our integrity no matter what, but they are incredulous when anyone suggests that "YOU CAN'T LIE TO CONGRESS OR THE FBI, man!"

I mean if THEY DON'T LIE, how can they win at all?

It isn't like they want to take the time to actually learn to DO THE WORK it takes to get the job done.

[Ms. Toad]

94. American Muckrakers is not a Democratic group.

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Don't really trust a fact-checker that gets such an important fact wrong.

[gldstwmn]

98. CO 3 Democrats

There are 3 Democrats running in Boebert's district. They are Adam Frisch, Sol Sandoval and Alex Walker. If you live in CO 3 please vote for one of them. The Democrats need all of the seats they can get in the House this election cycle and this would be a great pickup for us.

[Ms. Toad]

99. Not in CO.

My point is that we shouldn't be blindly copying inflammatory (but incorrect) headlines. The group is independent. It is not affiliaterd with the democratic party.

[uponit7771]

100. +1,

[TigressDem]

112. +1

BUT they are selling themselves as a DEM Super Pac, so we get the blame for their stupid actions.

[Ms. Toad]

115. Not in anything I've seen.

And I looked before posting, since I couldn't believe CNN got it so wrong.

Nothing on their site describes them as Democratic. Objective sites reporting on PACs describe them as not affiliated with a party. And it was even more challenging than I expected to find the affiliation of the groups leaders.

I try to search initially in a way that does not generate confirmation biased results, but when those initial results didn't generate the source of the alleged connection I searched directly for American Muckraker Democratic and the only relevant result was the CNN title.

[MerryBlooms]

102. Not a Democratic group. Stop supporting republicans.

[BlackSkimmer]

119. Thanks for posting this.

A damn shame.

[Emile]

120. You should self delete! This only helps get her sympathy.