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What if Tim Tebow was a Muslim? (Original Post) proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 OP
are there any muslim pro football players? niyad Jan 2012 #1
looks like a few mrs_p Jan 2012 #3
ofcourse not Rosa Luxemburg Jan 2012 #2
doubt it limpyhobbler Jan 2012 #4
If he were a Muslim & carried on the way he does, he'd be lynched. baldguy Jan 2012 #5
I think you have it backwards. Zax2me Jan 2012 #22
did they bow to Mecca after zbdent Jan 2012 #30
I was wondering what would happen if one of the muslim players madmom Jan 2012 #6
That's my argument against prayer in school proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #9
Wow, that's a good one! treestar Jan 2012 #17
They do. And there's not. Zax2me Jan 2012 #23
Haven't seen it on TV every weekend though! With this guy you madmom Jan 2012 #28
You weren't around for Muhammad Ali ... BOHICA12 Jan 2012 #36
Different world. The Doctor. Feb 2012 #37
Didn't we do this before with Muhammed Ali? JVS Jan 2012 #7
What if Tebow was a Teabagger? Shankapotomus Jan 2012 #8
Suggest this issue be discussed in Religion forum. pinto Jan 2012 #10
On follow up, unlocked this thread. The topic fits the GD forum as a cultural and media issue. pinto Jan 2012 #11
They would blame Obama. DCBob Jan 2012 #12
LOL! proud2BlibKansan Jan 2012 #13
They would check the ball after each throw to see it had a bomb in it The Straight Story Jan 2012 #14
probably a few of them were Lakers fans hfojvt Jan 2012 #15
Fundie Christians that defend Tebow would criticize him and onenote Jan 2012 #16
Exactly. Zax2me Jan 2012 #24
what if he was an atheist who preached his beliefs? spanone Jan 2012 #18
What is a belief? I didn't think atheists 'believed' in things? The Straight Story Jan 2012 #21
Those that hate him - he would be a hero Zax2me Jan 2012 #19
If Tebow were a Muslim... cherokeeprogressive Jan 2012 #20
I'd take Tebow and 40 points under ANY scenario! Zax2me Jan 2012 #25
Have you seen the ugly wingnut Facebook pic about Muslims and Tebow? pamela Jan 2012 #26
We wouldn't mock him. Seeking Serenity Jan 2012 #27
What if we didn't know what his religion was, because he kept it to himself? madmom Jan 2012 #29
Should he have to? (n/t) Seeking Serenity Jan 2012 #31
Why should we have to be subject to religion when we want to watch football? There's a madmom Jan 2012 #33
He wouldn't have even been drafted by the Broncos...nt joeybee12 Jan 2012 #32
Broncos fans would support him, even the conservatives. dawg Jan 2012 #34
Salon just did an article on it LadyHawkAZ Jan 2012 #35

mrs_p

(3,014 posts)
3. looks like a few
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 02:57 PM
Jan 2012

NFL
Hamza Abdullah - Safety player for the Cleveland Browns[130][131]
Husain Abdullah - Safety player for the Minnesota Vikings[132]
Az-Zahir Hakim - Wide receiver player formerly for the St. Louis Rams[133]
Ryan Harris[134]
Abdul Hodge - Linebacker for the Carolina Panthers.[9]
Ahmad Rashād - Former player for Minnesota Vikings, award winning sports-caster (converted in 1972)[135][136]
Ephraim Salaam - Offensive tackle player for the Detroit Lions[137]
Muhammad Wilkerson - Defensive end for the New York Jets[138]
Usama Young - Free safety player for the New Orleans Saints[139

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_American_Muslims#NFL

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
22. I think you have it backwards.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:34 PM
Jan 2012

There are plenty of Muslims in the NFL that 'carry on' as you say.
Husain Abdullah used to refuse water during practice on days he was fasting.
Not lynched.
Same for Hamza Abdullah of Arizona.
Not lynched.
Don't be silly.
Now, if a Christain in a Muslim nation 'carried on'?!
I would not be so certain about the lynching - but would hope not.

zbdent

(35,392 posts)
30. did they bow to Mecca after
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:32 PM
Jan 2012

a touchdown or tackle?

Did they invoke Muhammed (sp) in every interview?

madmom

(9,681 posts)
6. I was wondering what would happen if one of the muslim players
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:05 PM
Jan 2012

started praising alla and doing whatever it is they do. You can bet there would be an uproar.

proud2BlibKansan

(96,793 posts)
9. That's my argument against prayer in school
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 03:13 PM
Jan 2012

We'd have to let the Muslims pray 6 times a day.

Shuts the prayer folks right up.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
23. They do. And there's not.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:37 PM
Jan 2012

Estimated 3% of the league is Muslim and they pray and fast during practice and throughout the season when they so choose.
No uproar.
You lose the bet.

 

BOHICA12

(471 posts)
36. You weren't around for Muhammad Ali ...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 07:26 PM
Jan 2012

no uproar .... he was too entertaining. Much like Tebow.

pinto

(106,886 posts)
11. On follow up, unlocked this thread. The topic fits the GD forum as a cultural and media issue.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 04:47 PM
Jan 2012

Thanks all. ~ pinto

The Straight Story

(48,121 posts)
14. They would check the ball after each throw to see it had a bomb in it
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:03 PM
Jan 2012

And fans of the team would yell about how he was pushing his religion on them when he tebowed

hfojvt

(37,573 posts)
15. probably a few of them were Lakers fans
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:13 PM
Jan 2012

in spite of Kareem the dream.

What if Ali was a Christian, would progressives be deriding him for thanking God for his victories?

onenote

(42,696 posts)
16. Fundie Christians that defend Tebow would criticize him and
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:15 PM
Jan 2012

some DUers that now criticize Tebow would defend him.

 

Zax2me

(2,515 posts)
19. Those that hate him - he would be a hero
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:25 PM
Jan 2012

They would DEFEND and applaud his mentioning Allah in post-game press conferences.
These are the same people that cring when he mentions Jesus.
I see double-standards on both sides.

 

cherokeeprogressive

(24,853 posts)
20. If Tebow were a Muslim...
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:27 PM
Jan 2012

And the line had the Pats favored by 40 points, EVERYONE would take the Broncos and the points.

pamela

(3,469 posts)
26. Have you seen the ugly wingnut Facebook pic about Muslims and Tebow?
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 05:54 PM
Jan 2012

I don't want to post it here but it's a split photo of a group of Muslims praying on one side and Tebow praying on the other. The caption says "Why is this ok..." (under the Muslims) " but this isn't?" (under Tebow)

My wingnut sister posts shit like that pretty frequently and I'm seriously thinking about "unfriending" her if she doesn't stop.

madmom

(9,681 posts)
33. Why should we have to be subject to religion when we want to watch football? There's a
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:43 PM
Jan 2012

time and place for everything.

dawg

(10,624 posts)
34. Broncos fans would support him, even the conservatives.
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:45 PM
Jan 2012

Everyone else would call him a devil. Americans are tribalistic that way.

LadyHawkAZ

(6,199 posts)
35. Salon just did an article on it
Sat Jan 14, 2012, 06:47 PM
Jan 2012
http://www.salon.com/2012/01/12/what_if_tim_tebow_were_muslim/

In 1990, Chris Jackson was drafted by the Denver Nuggets out of Louisiana State University. In 1991, Jackson converted to Islam. In 1993, he changed his name to Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf. In 1996, Abdul-Rauf refused to stand for the national anthem at an NBA game. A religious storm followed.

Everyone had an opinion, from fans to sports writers to radio hosts. Sports Illustrated reported that some people suggested Abdul-Rauf be deported. Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf was born in Mississippi, however, and deportation from Colorado to Mississippi is rare. Two Denver-area radio hosts even walked into a mosque with a stereo playing the Star Spangled Banner. One was wearing a turban. And a Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf T-shirt. While broadcasting live, on air.

Abdul-Rauf claimed in a 2010 interview with HoopsHype.com that “[a]fter the national anthem fiasco, nobody really wanted to touch me.” He played only three more seasons in the NBA before going overseas to play professionally. In that same interview, he discusses how his home in Mississippi was burned down just a few months prior to Sept. 11. He eventually left the state.

So Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf stood up (or in this case, sat down) for his religious beliefs. He made his religion a visible aspect of his life and a visible aspect of his professional basketball career. Just like Tim Tebow. The difference of course being that Tim Tebow was satirized on “Saturday Night Live.” Mahmoud Abdul-Rauf had his home burned down and felt blacklisted from the NBA.
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