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Atticus

(15,124 posts)
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:14 PM Jun 2022

A note to "sunshine progressives" and "summer Democrats"----this shit is really happening.

Merely voting Democratic in November will not stop the MAGA fascists from taking complete control of our nation and our lives. We need to contribute as much money as we can, volunteer to stuff envelopes, canvass, phone bank or whatever and get as many friends, relatives and co-workers to the polls to ALSO vote Democratic.

And, we need to be willing to be "street meat"---warm bodies willing to march, sit in, block highways and, in general, raise holy hell with the cruel greedy graspers determined to usher in an era of autocratic rule. The place to make "good trouble" is "in their face .

Some of us will get arrested. Some will get hurt. Some will not be welcome at the family table next Thanksgiving.

What is worth all that?

If we don't win this next election, we will likely never win another. There may not even BE another election.

In Timothy Snyder's "On Tyranny" he tells us that the Germans who voted in 1932, the Czechs and Slovaks who voted in 1946 and the Russians who voted in 1990 did not realize there would not be another meaningful fair election for them. "Any election can be the last, or at least the last in the lifetime of the person casting the vote."

Don't let this next election be our last. Remember "Fired up and ready to go!" ?

We need that again---on steroids!

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A note to "sunshine progressives" and "summer Democrats"----this shit is really happening. (Original Post) Atticus Jun 2022 OP
This is a great message. lapucelle Jun 2022 #1
Absolutely! 💙🤷‍♂️ Cha Jun 2022 #8
$$$? TeamProg Jun 2022 #12
This reminds me of that commercial that asked: "can you hear me now?" calimary Jul 2022 #22
I can hear you dai13sy Jul 2022 #30
we have at least 2 traitors in our midst who are blocking our attempt to save the nation nt msongs Jun 2022 #2
52. rubbersole Jun 2022 #17
We need to elect Democrats, PERIOD, FULL STOP. N/T lapucelle Jul 2022 #36
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jun 2022 #3
$$$? TeamProg Jun 2022 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music Jul 2022 #37
What does that mean? N/T lapucelle Jul 2022 #38
doors won elections. mopinko Jun 2022 #4
Agree, but if enough of us help, we can do both. nt Atticus Jun 2022 #6
$$$? TeamProg Jun 2022 #14
House parties too. summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #20
that's something i should do. mopinko Jul 2022 #32
Hosting an in-person event is an excellent testimony summer_in_TX Jul 2022 #44
Agreed... Ohio Joe Jun 2022 #5
Yes, TY! We Need to Unite Against Fascism.. Cha Jun 2022 #7
$$$? TeamProg Jun 2022 #15
we need Biden, Harris, et al 4catsmom Jun 2022 #9
trump is toast - finish it ! plus, M & S for sure ! cloudboy07 Jun 2022 #10
I've given: TeamProg Jun 2022 #11
It is not necessary or, in my opinion, appropriate to post how much we contributed to which Atticus Jul 2022 #18
Democracy is in peril. Talk is cheap. TeamProg Jul 2022 #19
Only some talk is "cheap". nt Atticus Jul 2022 #34
That was MY point n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #41
90% of life is just showing up. n/t TeamProg Jul 2022 #21
Thanks for pointing this out, Atticus. ShazzieB Jul 2022 #23
Heck. I gave $2 to two the other day. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2022 #25
No, Dems wouldn't do better. Out of sight out of mind emails TeamProg Jul 2022 #27
"Embarrassment" is NOTHING compared to how we're going feel living TeamProg Jul 2022 #28
"Quaint"? Only to those without shame who can't "read the room". nt Atticus Jul 2022 #35
Taking quotes out of context is not a Democratic principle. TeamProg Jul 2022 #40
Unfortunately, they do pass the names of contributors around. DFW Jul 2022 #33
Speak softly and carry a big stick (stick ie: $$$). n/t TeamProg Jun 2022 #16
We need to begin to train our voters to not be intimidated and to push back against anyone Samrob Jul 2022 #24
Now you're talking! TeamProg Jul 2022 #29
K&R. dchill Jul 2022 #26
Kicking Lil Liberal Laura Jul 2022 #31
The young have the power. kentuck Jul 2022 #39
"The young voters must become empowered." brooklynite Jul 2022 #42
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore Jul 2022 #43
Good message, Atticus! If those who share the same values as Democrats Hortensis Jul 2022 #45
Yes We Are On The Cusp colsohlibgal Jul 2022 #46
☮️ K&R ☮️ spanone Jul 2022 #47

calimary

(81,058 posts)
22. This reminds me of that commercial that asked: "can you hear me now?"
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:36 AM
Jul 2022

For the first time, I think I’m actually starting to be fearful.

But fear can be a great motivator. So I’m gonna focus on making use of it.

Hey, whatever works. Sure beats sitting in silence and feeling depressed. I refuse to believe there isn’t SOMETHING that can be done.

dai13sy

(330 posts)
30. I can hear you
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 02:07 AM
Jul 2022

I'm all about finding a way to make this alright. The Justices seem to be on a mission to destroy us all and alito wants to take away every right he can

rubbersole

(6,651 posts)
17. 52.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:59 PM
Jun 2022

50 republicans aren't "in our midst" per se, but I live in Florida. Imagine Rick Scott, Marco Rubio and DeSantis being up your butt every day. Traitor defines them all.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Response to TeamProg (Reply #13)

mopinko

(69,966 posts)
4. doors won elections.
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jun 2022

they rly do. work for someone down ticket. doors win, but a candidate at the door is money in the bank.

i once knocked on the door of a prof from northwestern who assured me this is true. phone calls not so much.

summer_in_TX

(2,703 posts)
20. House parties too.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:15 AM
Jul 2022

Did that during the Howard Dean candidacy. Invited a bunch of my friends to my house to learn about the candidate, and asked them to vote for him in the primary. Several did.

That's even more effective than door-knocking because you are usually talking to friends and friends of friends, and already have a relationship.

mopinko

(69,966 posts)
32. that's something i should do.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 06:41 AM
Jul 2022

in fact, hoping to have a fundraiser for kelly westund at my farm in the fall.
nobody there will be able to vote for her, but they can give, and hopefully we work up a road trip.

summer_in_TX

(2,703 posts)
44. Hosting an in-person event is an excellent testimony
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 05:16 PM
Jul 2022

for your candidate.


Sometimes a candidate will have time to appear by video or on the phone if they can't spare the time to come in person. (If a larger event within the district conflicts, the candidate will need to be there.)

Or there may be one or more videos you can share.

Your personal words on her behalf will make a big difference.

Cha

(296,692 posts)
7. Yes, TY! We Need to Unite Against Fascism..
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:32 PM
Jun 2022

Not Dividing the Dems with Selfish Attacks.

We saw what happened when trump got in because of 3rd Green Party LIES.

Save Our Democracy💙 in 2022 & 2024!

4catsmom

(10 posts)
9. we need Biden, Harris, et al
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 10:46 PM
Jun 2022

to be on TV more often rallying Democrats. We need to get mad. Instead of saying "It's a sad day for abortion rights" they should be saying "We're not going to put up with this!". the right uses anger whipped up by lies. stirring up people with the truth is not the same thing. And we need it badly.

TeamProg

(6,007 posts)
11. I've given:
Thu Jun 30, 2022, 11:18 PM
Jun 2022

Mark Kelly: 100.00 (50x2)
Cortez-Masto: 50.00
Franken’s Midwest values toward Ron Johnson opponent:50.00
Stacy Abrams:50.00 (25x2)
Val Demmings:100.00(50x2)
DLCC:50.00
DNCC:50.00
World kitchen Ukraine:100.00 (50x2)

There are others I’ve forgotten but I GET A LOT OF EMAILS ASKING FOR MONEY!

You?

The thing that pisses me off is that during the course of the year, when I call reps/Senators about an issue since I’m not in their district or state, they don’t want to hear from me. Aaarrrgghh!!!!

Atticus

(15,124 posts)
18. It is not necessary or, in my opinion, appropriate to post how much we contributed to which
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:09 AM
Jul 2022

candidates. Some can drop hundreds without a problem while for others, $10 every now and then is a sacrifice.

No one needs to be embarrassed because they can't afford to "keep up" with others.

If we can, we contribute to the candidates or groups we think need it.

No one needs to know how much.

ShazzieB

(16,241 posts)
23. Thanks for pointing this out, Atticus.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 12:56 AM
Jul 2022

As one whose contributions are, of necessity, very carefully parceled out, I appreciate this.

SleeplessinSoCal

(9,079 posts)
25. Heck. I gave $2 to two the other day.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:19 AM
Jul 2022

It all depends on expenses from week to week.

But I wonder if they'd do better if we weren't bombarded with texts and emails delivering horrible news and asking for money all day long..

There's got to be a better way. It's off-putting AND depressing.

TeamProg

(6,007 posts)
27. No, Dems wouldn't do better. Out of sight out of mind emails
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:41 AM
Jul 2022

adds up to zilch.

Hey I’m not rich but this is it. If money actually helps to buy adverts then nothing is too much to sacrifice.

‘Thoughts and prayers’ that Dems will keep Congress isn’t going to do it.

TeamProg

(6,007 posts)
28. "Embarrassment" is NOTHING compared to how we're going feel living
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:53 AM
Jul 2022

under a Christian-Fascist regime.

Embarrassed, wow. Doesn’t that sound rather quaint? Kind of?

TeamProg

(6,007 posts)
40. Taking quotes out of context is not a Democratic principle.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 11:22 AM
Jul 2022

The context is that the feeling 'embarrassment' will be 'quaint' compared to the feeling of living under a Christian-Fascist regime.

Come on man, I know that you are smarter than that, most of your posts here are brilliant.

Your OP was intended to motivate people, as were mine, that is 'give money'. Thoughts and prayers aren't going to win it.

I'm trying to motivate a room where I read a lot of 'thoughts and prayers' with no specific support for Dem elections by simply explaining what I've done.


In 2020, I gave $480.00 to the Biden / Harris campaign, not TFG's. I don't feel even slightly embarrassed to state that fact, either.

We've all heard the various sayings about walking, talking, et c.

I'd say this 'horse' is deceased.

DFW

(54,256 posts)
33. Unfortunately, they do pass the names of contributors around.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 07:22 AM
Jul 2022

Without the knowledge or consent, but it is apparently considered a legitimate tactic, since Democrats are at a financial disadvantage in general.

I get literally hundreds of direct mail solicitations a month, and my office phone in Dallas, which everyone who knows me knows I only listen to about 3 times a year, has a backlog of hours of messages from local politicians from all over the country asking for money. The ones I find particularly offensive are so-called "surveys" which ask stupidly obvious questions, but always end with the real purpose of the "survey," namely a request for money.

How much any given person contributes is less important than how many of us contribute. Two million people contributing $5 is more important than one person contributing $2 million. But thanks for contributing. Two people on your list are people I know, and they both have formidable opposition, one to the point that his fellow Democrats fell for a Republican scam that brought him down, and cowardly still refuse to apologize.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
24. We need to begin to train our voters to not be intimidated and to push back against anyone
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 01:06 AM
Jul 2022

who is not a certified poll worker ... most voters know their poll workers if they have been regular voters.
Carry phones for video taping and for calling for help if needed.

kentuck

(111,037 posts)
39. The young have the power.
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 09:03 AM
Jul 2022

The Baby Boomers do not have the power they once had. The young voters must become empowered.

Response to Atticus (Original post)

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
45. Good message, Atticus! If those who share the same values as Democrats
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 05:22 PM
Jul 2022

but don't always vote Democratic, though, feeling they should find something better or lacking belief in voting, would vote Democratic this time it'd rock our elections.

There are way more who share liberal progressive values than there are MAGAs. Add in commitment to stop them.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
46. Yes We Are On The Cusp
Fri Jul 1, 2022, 10:27 PM
Jul 2022

Someone as unqualified as Twitler actually being nominated and then elected started the slide.

We are so, so close to a long dark night. I remain glad that if push comes to shove I have an escape option close, Canada, but I’d prefer the steadying of our ship here but that’s no sure bet anytime soon.

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