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Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:04 AM

So very sad indeed. That very few on DU are enjoying

July 4th. You are gonna let FG take that away from you!??? No way!

Sad day here, for sure! Great optimism everywhere across country!

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Reply So very sad indeed. That very few on DU are enjoying (Original post)
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 OP
Haggard Celine Jul 5 #1
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #9
Talitha Jul 5 #32
msongs Jul 5 #2
tenderfoot Jul 5 #3
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #10
iemanja Jul 5 #4
JI7 Jul 5 #6
Enter stage left Jul 5 #5
sprinkleeninow Jul 5 #7
mucifer Jul 5 #8
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #11
Tetrachloride Jul 5 #12
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #13
BlackSkimmer Jul 5 #22
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #43
betsuni Jul 5 #26
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #40
mcar Jul 5 #30
bottomofthehill Jul 5 #14
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #16
electric_blue68 Jul 5 #15
usonian Jul 5 #17
LoisB Jul 5 #18
njhoneybadger Jul 5 #19
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #41
joemacdawson Jul 5 #20
panader0 Jul 5 #21
joemacdawson Jul 5 #24
gopiscrap Jul 6 #50
niyad Jul 6 #51
panader0 Jul 5 #23
hlthe2b Jul 5 #25
Kingofalldems Jul 5 #27
BlackSkimmer Jul 5 #29
Elessar Zappa Jul 5 #38
dwayneb Jul 5 #42
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #45
Elessar Zappa Jul 5 #46
demmiblue Jul 5 #28
MrsCoffee Jul 5 #36
Unwind Your Mind Jul 5 #31
Torchlight Jul 5 #33
Hortensis Jul 5 #34
dwayneb Jul 5 #44
Hortensis Jul 6 #49
Demsrule86 Jul 5 #35
muriel_volestrangler Jul 5 #37
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #47
Elessar Zappa Jul 5 #39
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 5 #48
Vinca Jul 6 #52
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 6 #53
Laura PourMeADrink Jul 6 #54

Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:07 AM

1. Are you being sarcastic?

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Response to Haggard Celine (Reply #1)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:28 AM

9. Hell no. You can either be caught in despair as I have

Been for many years or chose something different. Feels great. Who knew lots and lots of great music would do it ? Thank you cnn.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #9)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:58 AM

32. Yes thank you, CNN - it WAS great!

Admittedly, I didn't know who most of the singers were, but they were really good. And DANG, it was wonderful to see The Doobie Brothers again! Made me smile seeing how many old farts like me were in the crowd, singing and dancing... hell, they had ME doing it right with them.

Loved the fireworks, especially the few glimpses of the Bidens admiring the show from their balcony. They weren't moping around feeling beaten down - they were out there being happy and proud. They gave us a good example to follow.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:08 AM

2. today's experience here is about the same it usually is nt

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:08 AM

3. Glad you're enjoying yourself

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Response to tenderfoot (Reply #3)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:30 AM

10. Sorry you aren't!!! Glad you had time to find that stupid clip!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:09 AM

4. The guy down my block is enjoying it

He's been shooting fireworks for hours. I don't understand the attraction to things that go boom.

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Response to iemanja (Reply #4)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:20 AM

6. Same here

New Years Eve with the shootings and July 4th with these stupid booms which start weeks if not months before and continue a bit after the 4th make these days annoying to me.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:12 AM

5. Because of the "supine court" this is absolutely the WORST 4th of July I've had in 76 years.

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Response to Enter stage left (Reply #5)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:21 AM

7. I made it another year. Not celebrating any of it. And I liked it that way.

The New England curmudgeon in me presented strongly.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:25 AM

8. Celebrations were cancelled around here because there was an armed mass killer on the loose

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:34 AM

11. JHC. So much doom and gloom here!!! You'd think we

didn't have the WH, Senate, and House! If we can't get what we want done then we need new leaders !

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:36 AM

12. +1. agree.

as for myself, this is the best Fourth I ever had. A pair of new friends.

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Response to Tetrachloride (Reply #12)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:37 AM

13. Yeah!!!!!!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:10 AM

22. It's curious. I've noticed, even before the Roe outrage, that many here seem very down despite our D

Are people not happy with President Biden? What's behind this?

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #22)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:25 PM

43. Well just the facts... Approval at 39% meaning at

Least 13% of Ds unhappy. That said, don't think there is any prez who has encountered such trauma. He will definitely bounce back!. Now whether or not he should run in 2024... Whole other question. Has nothing to do with how much we love and respect him!!!!!!!!!!!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 07:23 AM

26. "If we can't get what we want done then we need new leaders!"

What does that mean? What would these "new leaders" do? They won't be able to change anything and just become the old leaders (establishment) and then what. Drain the swamp? Really? What's wrong with Democratic leaders? Propaganda that they're weak and corrupt and don't do anything? Why would you believe that?

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Response to betsuni (Reply #26)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:12 PM

40. It might not hurt. Jeez have you seen approvals#?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #11)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:10 AM

30. You do know how government works, right?

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:42 AM

14. A friend posted this earlier this evening. Today (now) Tuesday is her birthday 7/5

I love her thought process and optimism.


Happy Birthday, America! My mom always said I was born on the 5th of July because she held off to celebrate the 4th and catch the fireworks. She made us "little house on the prairie outfits" to march in parades with Dad and his militia buddies from the Legion. Most birthdays I was lucky enough to get flag cakes. I love this country. I love this holiday. I refuse to believe this can continue, because true patriots will hold the line of our rights and liberties, build on the dream of the melting pot, and maintain the separation of church and state. This shift we are experiencing from poser patriots moves away from the true ideals and vision of FREEDOM that makes this country GREAT. We must keep trying to be better.

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Response to bottomofthehill (Reply #14)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:59 AM

16. Wow. What a great sentiment!! Perfect message for all us D's!

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 01:50 AM

15. I enjoyed it some, while cogniscent of our even worse situation right now. .

I took a walk to a part of the park in my new neighborhood I hadn't seen yet. That was nice. Then I went to get snacks for the 4rh. Going to have some now.
Great left overs for main meal.

Will see if the Macy's fireworks or DC's are up on you tube yet. 👍

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:06 AM

17. Foothills are quiet.

Fire danger somewhere between extreme and catastrophic. Neighborhood dogs are happy campers.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:38 AM

18. I stopped celebrating independence day a long time ago when I woke up and faced the fact that

I was not included in that declaration. It has nothing to do with the former guy. I am also very optimistic about the future because I believe we are going to keep the House, expand our majority in the Senate and get things done.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:43 AM

19. Happy July 4th Laura

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Response to njhoneybadger (Reply #19)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:18 PM

41. U 2. Music will pull us out is still my thought :)

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 02:51 AM

20. In Canada

It was pretty bad in Canada. In Ottawa, on the first. “Freedom Convoy” truckers flying swastikas. About ten percent of the usual turnout.

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Response to joemacdawson (Reply #20)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:07 AM

21. Welcome to DU.

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Response to panader0 (Reply #21)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:20 AM

24. Thanks a lot.

Thanks very kindly. Long time follower. Never posted before though.

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Response to joemacdawson (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 04:55 PM

50. welcome to DU

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Response to joemacdawson (Reply #20)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 05:15 PM

51. Welcome to our DU family officially. Glad you came in from the cold.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:20 AM

23. I tended my gardens, worked most of the day on a new roof for my workshop, played guitar,

read a new book---while Jeannie binge watched Yellowstone. I did all of the bar-b-que the day before
because it was supposed to rain on the 4th so I had chicken, burgers and brats with tomatoes, onions and
garlic from the garden. I went nowhere or saw anyone or spoke much all day. I like being alone.
Yeah, the shooting and the war and the woes of Congress and the Supreme Court can really get you
down if you dwell on on that stuff, but out here in the boonies I wouldn't even know about it without
TV or the internet. I had a good quiet day and will do the same things today.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 06:25 AM

25. Wow. Read the room. Given the multiple July 4th massacres, a little sadness is only fitting.

I'm not saying we need overwhelming and paralyzing pessimism, but self-reflection on this of all days is certainly appropriate.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 07:52 AM

27. Agree totally.

I don't get the point of the OP. The Trumper running for governor of Illinois said pretty much the same thing.

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Response to hlthe2b (Reply #25)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:36 AM

29. People have been glooming and dooming around here for quite some time. Certainly before yesterday.

Even before the Roe decision.

I swear it seems people are just as, if not more, gloomy than when tfg was president. It's very odd.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 05:56 PM

38. Some people really enjoy doom and gloom, unfortunately.

Sad.

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Response to BlackSkimmer (Reply #29)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:24 PM

42. There's a difference between pessimism and realism

When faced with facts you are forced to acknowledge reality.

The fact is, that the SCOTUS is now under the control of extremist right-wing activist judges.

The fact is, if the "Republicans" win the House and Seante in 2022, they will set the stage for a Fascist takeover in 2024.

The fact is, if Trump or DeSantis or their successor wins directly or gains power via coup in 2024, they will destroy America as we have know it, and the rule of law will be a thing of the past. Your voting rights and freedoms will be taken away from you.

The fact is, we are at war, and we have been for a long time.

It's important to understand clearly what is coming, because all of us need to have a plan for our families.

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:38 PM

45. Very truly. Called reality. Wishing and hoping doesn't cut it:(

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #42)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:44 PM

46. I'm not going to feel miserable about stuff I can't control.

I volunteer, donate, and vote. Beyond that, I can’t do much and won’t let the GOP take away my happiness.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:30 AM

28. Hours After Mass Shooting, GOP Candidate Says Time to 'Move On' and 'Celebrate'

Hours After Mass Shooting, GOP Candidate Says Time to ‘Move On’ and ‘Celebrate’

https://www.vice.com/en/article/v7vmwd/illinois-darren-bailey-highland-park-

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Response to demmiblue (Reply #28)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:58 AM

36. Pretty gross.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 10:41 AM

31. I don't enjoy the 4th for a different reason

Half our county has burned in the last five years, all fireworks are illegal here

And still we had big loud fireworks going on just a few streets over

I hate those people because they don’t give a shit about anyone but themselves

Nearly everyone who lives around here has intimate experience with wild fire and we worry about it all the time. We pack evacuation kits in the spring ffs

And, my poor dog was trembling between us in the bed all night

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:01 AM

33. Different people will react to different things in different ways

If it hurts no one and works for them, I'm not really in position to tell them their experiences or sentiments are misplaced.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:09 AM

34. Agree. I've been watching the nation go this direction for decades

and increasingly realized only coming to crises would bring people to awareness of the need to stop it. So watching it happen is anxiety-provoking -- what if enough people don't react as they need to? What if those who didn't vote for Democrats before still don't? -- but a positive point in that it needed to happen.

There really is a positive side to hearing people who frivolously imagined 2016 was about national healthcare -- when it was really about the right of the people to to choose to have it and much else -- finally get alarmed. BUT, will they VOTE? HOW MANY will vote? HOW MANY will vote Democrat?

Mind you, all this "it's all over" and "democracy is dead" crap on DU is NOT the turning point I've been waiting for. But I remind myself that in my entire life of associating with liberals/Democrats I've never met as many people who talk that way as come to this forum in a day. I say "strangely" because a Democratic forum is for the kind of liberal-minded people who FOUGHT to CREATE our constitution and all the rights and programs that come from it in the first place -- under much tougher opposition because they were the first times. Believers!

We had a very nice Independence Day with our family of believers, then we fogies left the rest to it and watched the spectacular Macy's and Capitol programs while sipping and munching in our easy chairs in our comfy, secure homes. Wow!

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Response to Hortensis (Reply #34)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 08:32 PM

44. We are at war here in the USA

and we have been for some time.

Who is winning the war? It's not Democrats and Liberals - many of them that I talk with have no clue where this is going or comprehend the reality that we may have had the last free and fair election in our lifetime.

I've been predicting this all my life, for 50 years after I became politically conscious. But Americans lived their head in the sand fairy tale lives and played with their electronic toys, rather than doing the hard work to protect their rights and freedoms.

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Response to dwayneb (Reply #44)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 09:04 AM

49. You're wrong that we're not winning. They captured important ground

while some of us let ourselves be fooled by ambitious zealots and distracted by shiny objects. But you're missing the reality that a VERY large majority of Americans do not want what we're threatened with and were raised to believe that we are supposed to rule, not be ruled.

That's OUR power and our institution an extremist minority have managed to temporarily control and attack everyone, including themselves, with. The RW extremists who are always with us are having a high point, but in the end it is OUR power. They are enormously outmatched, and there is no point at which they could take control and keep it.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 11:50 AM

35. Not me. I went to our parade and had a big family party where my one year old Grand-daughter

was the star...we ate too much, laughed often and enjoyed being together...I will not allow the right to take away all that is good. Fuck them. And if I felt endangered, I would buy a guy and fight back. fuck them.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 12:26 PM

37. How does "FG" relate to the mass shooter?

Those are not his initials. The mass shooting is the obvious reason people haven't enjoyed the day.

As far as general optimism goes, the Supreme Court has just taken the USA back 50 years, and threatens to take it back another 20. It also looks like it will OK all Republican gerrymandering, so they won't be dislodged from the court for years, and Republicans will control many states whether or not they win the vote - so they will pass authoritarian laws removing the rights won over those 70 years.

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Response to muriel_volestrangler (Reply #37)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 09:18 PM

47. Totally agree. Horrific events. Maybe just looking for savvier

people?.. Perhaps we elected them? Out of box thinkers, doers, effectors? People we might have worked for? To right the ship!??

I just know after years in the business world, there would be all kinds of analysis and lessons learned and retooling if similar to our current state. It would be a fools errand to stand up and say you didn't care, you just plain ole liked the CEO.

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 05:57 PM

39. I enjoyed it!

Conservatives won’t take away my happiness. Fuck ‘em.

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Response to Elessar Zappa (Reply #39)

Tue Jul 5, 2022, 09:26 PM

48. +1

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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Original post)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 05:23 PM

52. Our democracy is about to slip away from us. Can't see much to celebrate.

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Response to Vinca (Reply #52)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 08:43 PM

53. I know Vinca! But we're in charge. There gets to be a point

Where you think, life is short? Enjoy some moments? Fretting too long??

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Response to Vinca (Reply #52)

Wed Jul 6, 2022, 08:47 PM

54. What could we do? We being ordinary citizens? Of

course other than voting and working for local Dems. Hoping we keep the House. Hoping we keep the Senate? When is it their turn? When is it their turn to step up and think outside the box and figure this fucking mess out?

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