What DOJ Was Doing While You Were Wasting Time Whinging on Twitter : EmptyWheel

[erronis]

https://www.emptywheel.net/2022/07/16/what-doj-was-doing-while-everyone-was-whinging-doj-wasnt-doing-anything/

A nice long list of currently under active investigation. This thread is promising to be actively updated.

I don't want to repeat the list of trump "associates" and their various actions, subpoenas, and charges, but it is very satisfying. And most of these are necessarily difficult to investigate - these actors aren't particularly cooperative and some of them are actually cunning.

[empedocles]

1. So strong, as usual.

[NQAS]

2. Great

Lots of action. Warrants. And more warrants.

Apart from the rioters/patsies, where are the indictments of the key perpetrators. When I read about that, I will apologize for my skepticism.

[empedocles]

3. Corroborating evidence, flipping witnesses, etc., are important.

More obvious on the J6 Committee side, as the recent, additional Cassidy & cipillone testimonies, make for more progress.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

16. But it's so much easier to sit behind a keyboard and complain and moan

without knowing what's really going on at the DoJ.

[former9thward]

27. Do you know?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

31. Nope, and I have NEVER once claimed I do,

I just usually point out that you, me, DU has no idea what's going on in the DoJ, as it should be, never tip your hand to the evidence or progress of the investigation until you're ready to drop the hammer, which, IMHO, is coming down the pike PDQ.

[Mickju]

45. Exactly!

[NQAS]

46. Yes it is.

And I’ve admitted that. And maybe this is the tightest held investigation in history.

I’ll believe it when I see it but, and this is only my opinion, I’m not confident.

And as I’ve also written before, I hope I’m wrong.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

48. +100. nt

[uponit7771]

56. +1, "..maybe this is the tightest held investigation in history..." This and some DOJ admissions tha

... that they don't have some evidence is feeding my skepticism too.

[Chin music]

6. +1z

[stopdiggin]

9. but - somewhat different from, "seeing no indication .. " at least?

some will not be satisfied ... that seems almost a given. it seems we'll have to live with that.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

17. +100 nt

[Fiendish Thingy]

4. B-b-but I read on DU that Garland was doing NOTHING...

I guess reality has an alternative set of facts.

[Skittles]

7. no one doubts the DOJ is DOING stuff

it is whether there will ever be any true justice regarding the corrupt POS Trump that is in question

[erronis]

12. How could we calculate the true justice to be meted out to trump and his crowd?

They've wreaked havoc on this country in terms of its domestic and foreign policies and activities.
They've caused hundreds of thousands of deaths by not addressing the pandemic - even accelerating it.
They've destroyed families and children's lives. They've tried to gut domestic programs/education. The list goes on.

What would be an adequate recompense to get back all that we lost? How can we make a 76yo feel enough pain? I doubt he is capable of feeling shame.

I'd like to see all culpable - from the top to the bottom pay a commensurate price. If it is some big money-bags funding the insurrection I'd hope they spend their lives in prison and forfeit all assets - including those hidden away for their heirs.

Wishful thinking.

[Skittles]

13. right now, ANYTHING to prove Trump isn't about the law

ANYTHING

[ShazzieB]

38. Are you sure about that?

"no one doubts the DOJ is DOING stuff"

I wish I could say otherwise, but I'm not seeing much evidence of this. I feel like I see a lot of doubt where the DOJ is concerned. Do I think they're doing stuff? Yes, but I feel like I'm in the minority on that. I hope I'm not.

[Chin music]

11. Oh boy.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

18. ....

[Chin music]

19. This is for you...in response to that.

Get's REAL old dude.
Give it a rest.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

20. The joke's on you,

you're just assuming that this is a slap at you, you couldn't be more incorrect.

[Chin music]

23. Here's another one for you...

You don't know me. You don't know what I'm thinking. You're wrong.
Go away.
Enough for you today?
Stop stirring the pot about merrick garland and discontent about the results and the effect on our President Joe Biden.
BLOW!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

24. LOL.

Do I really get under your skin that much? Some anonymous person on the internet?

Is this not a discussion forum?

[Chin music]

25. You don't raise a welt.

Pretty confident of yourself.
You are a perpetual pot stirrer here. Truly disappointing when Joe Biden is taking the hit for your cavalier attitude about justice being done. I'm not so amused. The news complains about a fist bump...bc they got nothing else.
I'm bored to tears w posts like yours above.
Respectfully?

BLOW.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

28. That confidence comes from 35 years of service to our country,

plus a lifetime of life experiences.

[Chin music]

30. Yeah. Only you serve our country right? GTFOH.

Veterans in my family never blow their horn. Don't have to.
Nor do I.
Read all the stuff above.
b'bye.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

33. Geez, I hope you didn't pull a muscle reaching for that one.

[48656c6c6f20]

35. Imma change my screen name to Look At Me I Served And I'm Better Than You.

In recognition of their service.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. LOL,

the jokes on you also, I never once said, nor insinuated that, but if that's what makes you sleep better at night, more power to you.

[48656c6c6f20]

49. Haha.

You have no idea. Carry on.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

50. Back atcha.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

26. LOL.

Stirring the pot?
Isn't that exactly what you and others are doing by attacking AG Garland and the DoJ every fucking day?

[Chin music]

32. See above.

Don't try to dig your way out of it now.

We all know what's up.

ta-ta.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

34. ....

Don't try to dig your way out of it now.

We all know what's up.

When you say all, does that mean everyone on DU?

[SergeStorms]

37. Whinging?

I imagine that's supposed to be "whining".

I know, I know, nit-picking spelling errors seems petty and foolish, but a great article can be made to look ridiculous by misspelling. I'm surprised spell check didn't catch that.

[Arazi]

40. Whinging is British slang for whining

We say shit, they say shite

Tomato, tom-ahto…

Carry on

[SergeStorms]

42. Didn't know that. 👍

I've never seen it written like that before.

[Fiendish Thingy]

52. Whinging is a British/Irish form of the term whining.

Marcy Wheeler, although American by birth, lives in Ireland.

[SergeStorms]

53. And Marcy Wheeler is.....

I'm not familiar with her name and this is the first time I've read the "Empty Wheel" blog.

It seems strange whoever wrote this would use "whinging" and not include any other English/Irish words in the article. I'd say a have a better than average command of the English language and I've never heard of "whinging" before.

Whatever. I learned something today, and that's a good thing.

[erronis]

54. Please keep reading her blog. She has probably the most in-depth analysis of what's

Last edited Sun Jul 17, 2022, 10:15 AM - Edit history (1)

been going on in the legal (DOJ, etc.) world since/before the election of tfg. The commenters on that site are usually very sharp also (beware of 'bmaz') and there are enough trolls to get some interesting exchanges.

As the Urban Dictionary notes: Whinging is "When your lips are moving and you're complaining about something."

A good description of the usage of "whinge" is at: https://www.grammarphobia.com/blog/2007/03/on-whinge-and-whine.html

Q: The word “whinging” jumps off the page whenever I see it in British fiction. We don’t use it in the U.S. Why is it used in Britain?

A: In modern English, “whinge” and “whine” generally mean the same thing, though “whinge” (it rhymes with “hinge”) isn’t often heard in the United States except in the mouths of Anglophiles.

They come from two Old English words: “whine” from hwinan (to make a whizzing or humming sound, like an arrow in flight), and “whinge” from hwinsian (to make a sound like a dog whimpering). We probably get “whinny,” or horse talk, from the same root.

Both words are very old; “whine” dates from 1275 and “whinge” from 1150. Originally, “whine” referred merely to the sound. But “whinge” implied a wailing or crying: the sound was one of distress. Eventually, to “whine” also came to mean complain or express discontent.

Though Americans use only one word, “whine,” the British use both: “whining” covers a variety of meanings, including sounds made by people, animals, or inanimate objects, and “whingeing” (also spelled “whinging”) is more specifically for peevish or fretful complaining. The British sometimes use the terms together for emphasis: “Stop your whingeing and whining!”

I've been seeing "whinging" for quite awhile - I'm sure outside of Brit publications.

[SergeStorms]

57. Yeah, I'll make it a point....

to check out Empty Wheel now and then. I don't think I'll include whinge in my lexicon from now on, but it's always nice to know. DU's spell check doesn't recognize it either. Take care, and thanks for the lesson.

[AntiFascist]

59. Focus ye enquiries on that dastardly Michael Flynn and I'll stop me whinging! n/t

[duckworth969]

5. This jumped out at me

“June 22, 2022: Months after BuzzFeed and Mother Jones report on the scheme, DOJ asks Judge Amit Mehta to conduct conflict inquiry regarding Powell’s funding of Oath Keeper defendants’ defense.”

😳

Nice work emptywheel.

[BigmanPigman]

10. Hear, hear!

[Joinfortmill]

14. Thank you

[Cha]

15. Mahalo!🇺🇸💜

🕯🕊🌻🌈💥

[erronis]

22. This is one of my biggest honors, Cha. Mahalo to you also.

There are many that I've read here on DU over the last 10+ years. You've always been someone I liked to listen to.

[Cha]

29. Aww..

Mahalo for your kind words, erronis!

Thank Goodness for DU! 🇺🇸🌻🕯🕊🍀🏝🌈

[malaise]

21. Some of us knew DOJ was working

Rec

[Jon King]

39. They have until the end of the year then Repug House makes their lives misearable.

All of that is wonderful, so the people working their are doing their jobs. But come January the Repug House will launch so many investigations, the DOJ will come to a halt. Repugs will haul every key person in front of a panel over and over and over again. Tons of records requests, over and over again. These people had operatives within DOJ for years and know exactly who and how to hassle to being any investigations of the key players to a halt.

Biden will be impeached by the House. Harris will be impeached by the House. Garland will be accused of everything imaginable. The 1-6 committee will all be accused of all sorts of things individually to muddy the waters. Pelosi and her family will be accused of everything.

Holy hell is coming, these evil people will have everything ready to go the first day they are sworn in. So DOJ literally has 5.5 months to accomplish anything they want to accomplish.

[boston bean]

41. This is the fitzmas woman.

I do not put much stock in her writings.

[Bucky]

44. Oh my god, the word Fitzmas!!! 😆

Damn that takes me back 💙💚💜💛🧡🤎❤️

[Silent3]

51. I suppose to some that might look like a lot of activity, but for over 18 months of time...

...on issues so vitally important to our democracy that hundreds of people should be working on this, it's not terribly impressive.

At that ponderous pace it will be well past the November elections, maybe late into 2023, if and when the DoJ gets anywhere close to indictments of Trump and his inner circle.

Meanwhile, the slow-motion coup sinks its claws deeper into the election system.

Ho, hum. Can't be too careful. Good things come to those who wait. Lather, rinse, repeat.

Uh, oh! Democracy has fallen. Damn. Couldn't see that coming. At least we followed normal procedure, and can feel good about that.

[triron]

55. Wtf! I don't see Trump there. This says it all.

[Voltaire2]

58. What they haven't done is indict anyone

from the Trump administration or his ‘outsider’ team for their participation in an attempted coup.