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Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:03 PM

Please tell me that TFG can't win in 2024

Someone talk me down. I can't imagine living through another term. The MAGAts will be worse than ever.

And while you are at it: Please tell me we are not going to lose the House and Senate in the mid-terms.

Either way pm me a benzo.

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Reply Please tell me that TFG can't win in 2024 (Original post)
hookaleft Jul 18 OP
PortTack Jul 18 #1
blm Jul 18 #2
cilla4progress Jul 18 #3
gratuitous Jul 18 #4
MyOwnPeace Jul 18 #14
Emile Jul 18 #5
captain queeg Jul 18 #6
Eliot Rosewater Jul 18 #10
Ace Rothstein Jul 18 #7
AkFemDem Jul 18 #8
CrispyQ Jul 18 #9
Polybius Jul 18 #11
musclecar6 Jul 18 #12
liberal_mama Jul 18 #13
robodruid1 Jul 18 #15
walkingman Jul 18 #16
Runningdawg Jul 18 #17
PBC_Democrat Jul 18 #18
AlexSFCA Jul 18 #19
EnergizedLib Jul 18 #20
MissMillie Jul 18 #21
LetMyPeopleVote Jul 18 #22
Hekate Jul 18 #23
roamer65 Jul 18 #24
ruet Jul 18 #25
sarisataka Jul 18 #26
DET Jul 18 #27
Xolodno Jul 18 #28
DFW Jul 18 #29

Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:05 PM

1. Understand!!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:06 PM

2. He can't. Even 15% of Republicans refuse to vote for him.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:06 PM

3. I feel you, hookaleft -

I won't be surprised if things get worse before they get better.

This flirtation with fascism America is having...but, I do expect it has an expiration date.

Pendulums swing.

Hope that helps.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:07 PM

4. He lost by 2.8 million votes in 2016; by 7.1 million votes in 2020

Is there something you're seeing that convinces you that those millions and millions of voters are suddenly going to cast a ballot for the former guy in 2024? What has he done since losing so bigly a mere 20 months ago that will reverse his standing with a majority of the nation's voters?

Don't listen to people who draw their paycheck by stirring the political shit.

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Response to gratuitous (Reply #4)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:52 PM

14. I agree 1000%!

Again, what has he 'done' that could possibly convince 1 who voted AGAINST him before to switch and vote FOR him?

That being said, I DO believe the Deomcrats could/should be continually posting the POSITIVE things that Joe and the Dems have done since we did get rid of IQ45. THESE NEED TO BE HEARD!!!!

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:11 PM

5. What worries me is what dirty shenanigans

Republicans have up their sleeves to steal elections. They been working hard changing state election laws all over the country.

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Response to Emile (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:14 PM

6. Yeah that worries me too. The Nazis aren't even trying too hard to hide their efforts.

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Response to Emile (Reply #5)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:24 PM

10. Yep, has NOTHING to do with actual voting anymore. Maybe this Nov the politician who wins

will win, maybe not. GOP hates voting.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:16 PM

7. He barely lost in 2020 so he can certainly win again if people don't stay engaged.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:18 PM

8. He's not winning in 2024

I’m not as rosey about the midterms.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:23 PM

9. I don't think he could win their primary today, much less in two years.

Time has not been kind to the orange piece of shit. A lot can change in two years, but right now, I'd put my money on DeSantis. And I wish I could tell you that he can't win, but he most certainly can win.

As far as the house & senate, it's not a given that we will lose one or the other. I thought the economy would be the overriding issue, but I think the Roe issue is going to be a lot bigger than I first thought, cuz the repubs are taking it to such extremes. People are repulsed by children being forced to give childbirth, alarmed that travel restrictions for women are actually being considered, & pissed off at talk of banning birth control. And then there's Thomas' statement about other rights SCOTUS wants to strike down.

We're at the place where every election is the most important election of your life & we're partly here because too many of us didn't treat previous elections that way.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:28 PM

11. If he ran today he's win

But he might be in jail by 2023, or perhaps just under house arrest, but barred from ever running again.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:36 PM

12. The



Orange Nazi appealed to the naive and or complete dumbass’s cause he “got them”. Yeah he got them alright as he conned lied and cheated them just like the dirt bag completely amoral real estate/ car salesman he is. He’s just a dumb shit who’s always looking for an angle to fuck someone ( in his case literally and figuratively as grab em in the pussy Donny).

So unfortunately for him and fortunately for us, he went too far with the insurrection stunt, so not even he can con his way out of this one. That’s not to say De Santis or some other version of a TFFG megalomaniac may get the nomination, but after the J6 committee has done such a good job of spelling it out for enough independent and moderate republicans, in my opinion our would be totalitarian menace is finished.

Of course that won’t stop him from continuing to fleece his MAGA moron flock out of their money contributing to all his bullshit causes, which is just funds that go strictly into his personal pocket. After all, as Michael Cohen tried to warn people if they were paying attention, he’s a con man liar and a cheat. Mic drop.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:39 PM

13. I want to be positive, but I'm afraid Trump could win again and we might lose the House/Senate

There just doesn't seem to be enough outrage about Roe. People are angry about inflation, the pandemic, gas prices. Even my democratic friends and family members are constantly complaining. People on social media are saying they won't vote for a republican, but they might not vote at all. I'm in New York and worried we will end up with a republican governor.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:56 PM

15. Where will we be in 2024?

 

What will the price of gas be?
What will the price of hamburger be?
Interest rate?
Unemployment rate?

Are we still supplying arms to Ukraine? Poland? Finland?


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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:58 PM

16. No way can he win - he lost last time and after 4 years of misery no way with

one exception and that is if SCOTUS allows state legislators to decide electors going forward. Then all bets are off and we have lost what little is left. I sure that the "originalists" would love to see only white male landowners decide everything for this nation.

Now tell me again how brilliant our founding fathers were.....

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 12:58 PM

17. He can't win. The plan is to lose again. That could be as bad or worse.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:28 PM

18. I Don't Think He'll Get The 'R' NOmination ...

I think we have a 50/50 shot at holding the Senate
I think we're going to lose the HoR.

The experts are predicting a jump in gas prices in late Sept/early Oct.

If I was writing ads for the 'D's - I'd focus on the info coming from the J6 commission and a pledge to codify Roe vs Wade.

I'd immediately remove marijuana from the narcotics list.
I'd give VP Harris a project she could get a big win on. It would have to go better than the immigration project. I think Pres Biden will be to old the run in '24, so it's time to start improving the VP's reputation.

If I was writing ads for the 'R's - I'd focus on the prices of every day items on Jan 19th, 2021 and the prices now. I'd focus on the gas shortages, the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and the immigration numbers.

As always it'll come down down to who can reach the non-political majority of the country that doesn't watch the Sunday news, or read 25 page plans to address a situation.

People make fun of bumper sticker slogans, but that's what people remember. We need one for issue on the table.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:35 PM

19. having him on the ballot will energize dems

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:38 PM

20. What I think

Unfortunately, trump can win in 2024. Will he? I don’t know. Should he? Heck no.

I do think us or even gaining a seat or two in the Senate is plausible. The House might be another story.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 01:59 PM

21. He can't be allowed to run.

He's dangerous when he wins.

He's dangerous when he loses.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:28 PM

22. This makes me smile

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:34 PM

23. His clan & ilk, as the saying goes. At this point he could drop dead, & Trumpism would remain...

The white nationalist “Christian” movement has been set in motion.

Sorry I have no words of comfort today.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:36 PM

24. If we had a popular vote system, I would say he definitely cannot win.

However, with the idiotic Electoral College, I cannot say it.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:38 PM

25. TFG Can't Win In 2024.

Of course, I said that in 2016.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:42 PM

26. TFG can't win in 2024

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 03:59 PM

27. Not Worried About Trump

I don’t think he’ll even run. He’s just pretending to as part of the perpetual grift. Even if his mind and body can handle a run, his ego can’t since he knows he’d lose. DeSantis and his fellow sociopaths are the real ones to be concerned about.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:21 PM

28. He'll probably declare after the mid-terms.

To get any other potential Repubs out of the way. DeSantis and Cruz have painted themselves as Trump's heir, him running could thwart that.

If he can win, that's a loaded question. He can't win the popular vote. But the electoral vote? That's a different story. A lot can happen between now and then.

For example, if we codify abortion and he runs on retracting that. That's not going to help him. But if we fail to codify it and he runs on leaving it to the states...that gets him out from the spot light.

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Response to hookaleft (Original post)

Mon Jul 18, 2022, 04:25 PM

29. He can't win a LEGITIMATELY HELD election

But, then again, he didn't do that the first time, either.

And, if anything, voting rights suppression targeting Democrats is approaching a high art, as opposed to the relatively primitive stage it was at in 2016.

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