Don't look for DOJ to do anything. Rachel reading memo Garland sent to DOJ

[tulipsandroses]

Deflating.
He instructed all DOJ to the usual ” not do anything to influence an election”. As well as to adhere the Barr ruling that said any investigation has to be approved by the AG

[JCMach1]

1. He won't do the job, ask him to resign

[BigmanPigman]

5. Hear, hear!

[brooklynite]

22. And by "Ask him to resign" you mean "someone other than me"?

Willing to bet nobody here has contacted President Biden or their elected representatives to express their concerns. Keyboard rants are so much easier...

[Timewas]

2. Yup

Politics as usual. the big guys can do as they please,and us small fry go to jail.

[RockRaven]

3. Special treatment by the ruling class for the ruling class, even if the law breaker has only been

ruling class for a minute. Once you're in the club, you're in the club.

But they are -- rightly -- prosecuting every last goober who entered the Capitol because they are outside the club. "Sucks for them" is the attitude there.

[brooklynite]

23. President Biden and AG Garland are "the ruling class"?

Are there secret handshakes?

[BlackSkimmer]

61. Is that a serious question? nt

[brooklynite]

63. Yes it is.

Last time I checked, Biden was a Democrat whom people here voted for to be President. And Garland was appointed by Biden. Were we deceived?

[UTUSN]

4. K& Big R#5

[edhopper]

6. Can be true

I have been assured by people here that he is running a full force ultra secret investigation that will soon indict Trump.

[stopdiggin]

7. DOJ is not in the business of influencing elections

and that is absolutely sound policy and governance.
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[Marius25]

9. If Trump and the GOP are not prosecuted this year

we will not have any more elections.

[stopdiggin]

13. still not the DOJ's province -(nt)-

[Bettie]

20. So, the DOJ is the only organization that has the

power to investigate that rotting orange, yet, the DOJ can't do it because...reasons.

In other words, he can do literally whatever he wants. Until he dies.

What a system of "justice" we have in this country.

[stopdiggin]

24. nothing here to say that investigations not go forward

or punishment not meted out.
Just not on an agenda or timetable that is tailored to advance the interests of a political party (i.e., and/or influence elections)

[Bettie]

29. The rich and powerful never pay

unless they screw over other rich and powerful people.

Garland isn't about to indict a rich and powerful person.

I hope I'm wrong, but it doesn't seem like he's really interested in moving ahead with anything but the small fish.

[stopdiggin]

30. maybe. but that's a different argument

than the one I'm trying to champion.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

32. Thank you for being an ultra-rare voice of sanity and reason.

I want to see TFG indicted for his crimes, but the DOJ needs to do this the right way.

Anyway, I appreciate the courage to stand with integrity.

[Cosmocat]

39. That is so lost on those who actually have the capacity do something about it

one of the MANY reasons this is doing to end really badly.

[triron]

15. It's stupidity. Eos.

[brush]

18. If Comey had adhered to that we woudn't be here now.

So pls, give that a rest.

[stopdiggin]

25. a pretty fair illustration of why it should NOT

be done that way. The discouraging thing is - the amount of people advocating for even more egregious (read politically weighted) action, than anything the 'boy scout' got his fat little fingers on.

Learn from mistakes? Nahhhh.

[inthewind21]

48. Really

2016 anyone? And what a BS policy, we can't interrupt an insurrectionist in the middle of his campaign for President, we might stop a dictator from becoming president and that just wouldn't be fair. Yeah, that makes perfect sense!

[bigtree]

8. so it says the AG has to approve the investigation

...where does it say he won't?

[usonian]

10. Double Secret Probation?

[Fiendish Thingy]

11. The memo changes nothing- your assumptions are not based on a clear reading of the facts.

The memo does not prohibit anything, including investigating Trump, even if he formally declares his 2024 candidacy tomorrow.

[stopdiggin]

14. correct. not to mention long standing policy. -(nt)-

[RussBLib]

27. so what if it has to go thru Garland?

that seems as it should be. This does not trouble me as it seems to trouble many of you. Something of high importance should probably run thru the head cheese.

What sorta bothered me is there was no time frame given. Sure, don't interfere with elections, but how far in advance should they stand down so as not to interfere with the election? 30 days prior to the election? 60 days? 90? It wasn't stated. In any event, we are getting close.

[ecstatic]

28. It sure as hell discourages investigations. Who in their right mind would want to touch

any case involving a candidate? Imagine having to approach the big boss to ask if you're allowed to apply justice equally under the law.

[Kaleva]

36. Might have prevented Comey from tanking Hillary in 2016

[Qutzupalotl]

12. Garland is not Barr.

[triron]

16. Easy. The hell did garland bring this bullshit guidance from

Barr up??!

[Qutzupalotl]

50. So we don't repeat what Comey did to Clinton. nt

[Scrivener7]

19. So far, I don't see the difference.

[Qutzupalotl]

31. There is merit in protecting elections from interference by a partisan DoJ.

There is no merit in protecting members of one party, as Barr did.

See the difference?

[Scrivener7]

34. Nope. The same member of the same party who tried to overthrow

the United States is still at large. So the result seems to be quite similar.

[Qutzupalotl]

47. Garland is investigating Trump

for stealing classified documents and J6. Barr would not, ever.

[Scrivener7]

52. Lol. How about that attempt to overthrow the United States? Over a year and a half ago?

I'd think that warranted some urgency, but I know, I know: "It's not a Law&Order episode, Marsha!" (purse lips, flip hair.)

[Qutzupalotl]

53. Please read my post again.

I specifically mentioned Jan. 6.

[Scrivener7]

54. Please read my post again.

Your mention of January 6 in a post does not change the fact that tfg is still out there in the wild fomenting the end of our democracy. Over a year and a half later.

[Qutzupalotl]

56. LOL. Nice try.

I said he was being investigated for J6 and you thought I ignored it.

[Scrivener7]

57. OMG! You win!

[Qutzupalotl]

58. Maybe slow down and calm down before you accuse others of an oversight.

[BlackSkimmer]

62. This.

Yep.

[jalan48]

21. McConnell agreed to support Garland's AG confirmation. That should have been a tip-off.

[ecstatic]

26. He is doing the equivalent of the Uvalde cops. Sitting outside the door

while terrorists attack the country from the inside out. I guess he'll finally *try* to go inside and do something when it's way too late. When the country is completely destroyed and millions more have died.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

33. This is a nothhing burger

Part of Barr's memo was due to the extraordinary and insubordinate actions of James Comey. Comey helped elect TFG. Barr was in part responding to the fact that Comey violated DOJ procedures in both his July press conference and the reopening of this investigation just before the election violated DOJ guidelines and were extraordinary and insubordinate

Link to tweet

https://www.cnn.com/2018/06/14/politics/ig-report-clinton-email-investigation/index.html

The Justice Department’s internal watchdog found that former FBI Director James Comey’s actions in the Hillary Clinton email investigation were “extraordinary and insubordinate” and flouted the department’s norms but that Comey was not motivated by political bias.

The inspector general released a sweeping report Thursday detailing a series of failures by the top federal officials in charge of the investigation ahead of the election, concluding that the FBI’s actions ultimately “cast a cloud” over the bureau and senior leaders did lasting damage to the FBI’s reputation.

The damage caused by these employees’ actions extends far beyond the scope of the Midyear (Clinton) investigation and goes to the heart of the FBI’s reputation for neutral factfinding and political independence,” the report by Inspector General Michael Horowitz states.

A key finding: Comey erred in his decision not to coordinate with his superiors at the Justice Department at critical moments. Horowitz said that Comey was “extraordinary and insubordinate,” and did not agree with any of his reasons for deviating from “well-established Department policies.”

But Horowitz concluded that the prosecutorial decisions in the Clinton case were “consistent” with precedent and not affected by bias or other improper actions.

The report is likely to reopen wounds left festering since the 2016 election and breathe new life into the debate over the extent to which Comey’s actions secured Trump’s victory.

Barr's memo is trying to correct the actions of Comey

Lets be real. The DOJ is not going to indict TFG without the approval of Attorney General Garland. I was nt really upset at Rachel's report tonight

[stopdiggin]

38. thanks. a clear eyed perspective.

and so obviously needed.
Didn't watch Rachel's program - but, regardless of how she may have couched it, this is not the big reveal that many seem to think it is.

[Emile]

35. If Garland doesn't prosecute Trump, fascism wins! I still

think thanks to the Jan 6 committee that this is just too big even for Garland to ignore.

[Kaleva]

37. Didn't Comey go rogue and tank Hillary in 2016?

[stopdiggin]

64. as a rather smallish example of why

it is not a great idea to have people crashing around doing this sort of thing. Comey did an end run around protocol, precedent and his superiors - in order to spring his little 'Oct. surprise', and impose his own version of what was 'right.'

(And I say 'smallish' because as damaging as his action was - it still ranks as fairly small potatoes against the truly destructive and egregious things that a DOJ, with a true intent to place a thumb on the scales, would be capable of getting up to. I'll repeat - this is not, despite the exigences of the moment, behavior we want from the DOJ (or FBI, CIA, etc., etc.).

[tavernier]

40. What election?

As far as I can see by my calendar, it’s the middle of July. The election is months away. People will have been born and died, wars fought, lost and won, hurricanes, earthquakes, floods and droughts will have occurred by that time.
Lots and lots of time to save the United States of America from catastrophe.
Like the logo says, JUST DO IT.

[Novara]

41. Wrong

It does not mean no investigations will be conducted.

It means that they has to go through the boss. It means any rouge DOJ lawyer can't just open his open investigation before clearing it with the boss. It says nothing about Garland's approval or not.

[Samrob]

42. I sure wish Fani Willis was the AG now.

Fearless! Republicans fear the fearless.

[jcgoldie]

51. Or Letitia James

...

[48656c6c6f20]

43. So let me get this straight.

Don't influence elections. Yet election campaigns start the day of victory. So.. Never investigate?
How many people here believe there is only one justice system for All? I got some bridges I need to sell.

[msfiddlestix]

44. Was this Garland edict recently issued?

on edit: Not that it makes any difference, just curious when this took place. And also was this a public announcement or an internal memo leaked to the press? Again, not that it makes any difference, just curious.

[Hotler]

45. Let me translate.

For the sake of healing the nation, now is not the time to point fingers.

We've heard this before.

[Mad_Machine76]

46. The 2022 election or the 2024 election?

Trump isn't on the ballot for the 2022 election BTW, so why would the memo apply to him?

[inthewind21]

49. Because

Campaigns start YEARS before the election.

[Mad_Machine76]

55. So

is the implication here that as soon as Trump announces for 2024, he'll simply be legally untouchable by the DOJ until/unless he stops running or loses?

[budkin]

59. Conclusions can't be drawn from this memo

They just can't.

[H2O Man]

65. Respectfully disagree

on your interpretation.

[ProfessorGAC]

66. As Do I

I see nothing in there that says there will be no investigations.
Moreover, these investigations are already active. There's nothing in that memo saying active cases will be abandoned.