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H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
Mon Jul 18, 2022, 09:55 PM Jul 2022

Water

“In a way, science might be described as paranoid thinking applied to Nature: we are looking for natural conspiracies, for connections among apparently disparate data. Our objective is to abstract patterns from Nature (right-hemisphere thinking), but many proposed patterns do not in fact correspond to the data. Thus all proposed patterns must be subjected to the sieve of critical analysis (left-hemisphere thinking).”
― Carl Sagan, Dragons of Eden: Speculations on the Evolution of Human Intelligence


Since I was a kid, growing up on a small family farm, I learned from old people ways to be pretty accurate about the seasonal weather forecast. Now that I'm an old man, the number of broken bones I've had help me know when a storm is coming. It's been a fairly dry summer here in the northeast, and the water table is low.
Although my numerous water were mighty low, yesterday I used the last in them to water my garden. I depend upon the food I grow, and am having good results thus far. I also knew that we'd be getting rain last night and today, and hopefully off and on over the next few days. It was a bit more of a chore yesterday, though, as I've had some reaction to the latest covid booster shot, distinct from the previous ones. But I trust science, and consider it a small price. Plus I know that water is essential for life.

I remember talking about water with Onondaga Chief Paul Waterman over the years I served as his top assistant. Paul thought that science was documenting a lot of things that were part of his people's traditional knowledge, which was rooted in their experiences living here, on this land, for thousands of years. As such, he was very concerned about the damage being done to the air, land, and water.

All life on Earth came from water. When scientists look for evidence of life in distant worlds, the first thing they look for is if water has existed on them. Living beings are found in water, and those living outside of water tend to have contact with water to maintain life. The only waters that doesn't have life in it are those that human beings have polluted with toxins. And water with toxins poisons those living beings on land that come in contact with. Toxic waters causes sickness and death. The toxic poisons that human beings dump into the water float downstream. This includes going downstream in distance and time, to the next communities and generations.

Now, in the Good Book, it makes clear that the Earth does not belong to humans, that we are but sojourners. (Leviticus 25:23; Psalm 24) But I do not limit myself to religious or spiritual concepts. For example, I talk about the environment with my brother who lives in the northwest. He works at a university, and likes having lunch with the professors of environmental studies. My brother is an atheist who loves science.

His co-workers tell him that humanity is up against it. Things are already in motion that will destroy the ability to grow necessary amounts of food in parts of the world. They will not get enough rain, as things warm up. That isn't just in third world countries, mind you. They think the sothwest will continue to get hotter and drier, and the eastern coast and Gulf Coast will continue to have more frequent and serious floods. Thu, migrations will not be limited to those from Central America already being displaced by environmental changes.

I also think about one of Malcolm X's teachings: if you put aa glass of sparkling clean water next to a filthy glass of sludge, thirsty people will make the correct choice. I think that is true, but question if there are not people who lack the conscience required to stop destroying the environment so long as they can make a dime selling slufge to the public. That would include even a senator, for example, if he/she and/or his/her family made money off, say, coal. That might result in that senator knee-capping a good president's programs to address the environment. It might even make it very difficult to identify when that senator voted with the Democrats on a single issue that energy corporations and republicans oppose.

We are in strange times. But I enjoyed talking on the telephone this afternoon, with a young lady who is a volunteer with the congressional campaign I'm working on. The Democratic primary comes in late August. There are two Democrats: the one I volunteer with has good experience working with our elected representatives in DC, and who accepts zero corporate funding, the other is a now-former Wall Street executive, running on corporate funding. My candidate advocates for things like child health care coverage and other issues that will result in his republican opponent calling him a "socialist" in the general election season.

But he is not. I consider him to be a liberal, who is fairly moderate overall, and who understands science. We need change. Now, I wish he was a socialist, and am pretty darned sure those young adults volunteering with his campaign would agree. And I know for a fact they all have concerns that not enough is being done on environmental issues. Not their only concern, but one that helps get them active in Democratic Party politics. That will matter in November.

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Water (Original Post) H2O Man Jul 2022 OP
There are, of course, H2O Man Jul 2022 #1
1798 H2O Man Jul 2022 #2
Here in SE Az I worry about water quite a bit. panader0 Jul 2022 #3
When I moved here, H2O Man Jul 2022 #5
This Girl Kid Berwyn Jul 2022 #4
Yes, she does! H2O Man Jul 2022 #6

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
1. There are, of course,
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 09:49 AM
Jul 2022

two types of law, man's law and Natural Law. If you violate man's law, you may avoid being caught. If caught, you might hire a lawyer, and either be found "not guilty" or the lawyer might get you a plea deal. There is an area defense industry, which has polluted the water supply all around, and pretty much beat the rap in federal court. It continues to "dispose" of not only an agreed upon amount of toxic waste into the Susquehanna River monthly, but dumps more in, for it is cheaper to pay the fine than to cover the costs of disposing of it legally, under man's law.

Natural Law has no lawyers. No plea deals. No cheap ways to get around it. There are only consequences, and they are harsh.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
2. 1798
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 10:24 AM
Jul 2022

In 1794, the half-brother of the Seneca leader Corn Planter named Handsome Lake had been among the leaders of the Iroquois who went to DC to sign the Pickering Treaty. There, e was introduced to alcohol. Over the next few years, he became a drunk, overcome with despair by his people's fate. In 1798, he went into an alcohol-induced coma. His daughters believed that he was dead, and prepared his body for burial. However, after three days, he came to.

During those three days, he said that three spirits took him on a journey into the future. Their lessons became known as the Code of Handsome Lake. This includes much of the Iroquois' belief system, with some influence by the Quakers that he and his brother knew. And it also included environmental prophecy. The Code is long, but I will limit myself to a few of his environmental predictions.

The spirits showed him trees beginning to die from the top-down, rather than from the lower branches up, as is natural. This was from air pollution, with the extreme examples being acid rain killing forests in Europe. Then they showed him that the water was warming up, and oily, something I need not explain. Then they took him to a garden, where the crops were not growing well. They had him take a handful of the once rich soil, which was now dry and depleted.

I could go on and on. But I think these three examples from 1798 should do.

panader0

(25,816 posts)
3. Here in SE Az I worry about water quite a bit.
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 10:40 AM
Jul 2022

When I bought my 40 acre parcel in '78, I was the only person anywhere around. The seller of the
land told me that the area had enough water for 500,000 people for 500 years. The mountain creeks
ran year round and the rainfall was steady at about 17-18 inches a year. People started moving here,
I don't blame them, it's a beautiful area, and back then was growing rapidly. As a construction guy,
I depended on that growth. I had a well put in, the only well for about two miles in any direction. A
large pond on the BLM land next to mine was full nearly year round. Herons, egrets, ducks etc.
People started moving onto my road and putting in their own wells. Now, after all these years, my
single old fashioned mail box, the only mail box, has been replaced by a large metal bank of boxes
with a couple hundred boxes. Lot sizes are 4 acres at a minimum, and I still have most of my land,
so I have a lot of privacy. But the new wells go deeper then the 320 feet mine went, now up to 420 feet.
I follow the water table on the USGS web site and it's dropped 10-12 feet in the last 20 years, so
Jeannie tells me not to worry, that the water will last until I die (thanks Jeannie).
Yet the pond rarely gets full any more and the mountain creeks are currently dry. The ducks and other
big birds don't come and the frogs and toads don't rise from the deep cracks in the pond.
But, we're having a fairly good start to our summer monsoon and I won't have to water today.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
5. When I moved here,
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 10:55 AM
Jul 2022

there was a dirt "seasonal" road opposite my driveway. In the late 1700's it was part of an early turnpike, heading west after the Revolutionary War. Very few people traveled the dirt road, and those that did were mainly older folks on a Sunday drive.

Today, there has been a lot of development, with new roads made off the old one with more development. Like you, I understand why people would want to build there. It's on a mountain's top, with a beautiful view that goes on for miles and miles. Where there was once only an abandoned farm, there is now a neighborhood.

The town started doing "road work" early this morning, which woke me up well before I had planned to start the day. But I'm happy, as we have had some much-needed rain, and should get more in the next four days. So rather than lugging water out to the garden, I can focus on pulling weeds, and remember sitting silently with Paul, and listening to rain or a creek we both liked.

H2O Man

(73,536 posts)
6. Yes, she does!
Tue Jul 19, 2022, 11:12 AM
Jul 2022

I think that she is amazing, and have the greatest of respect for her. I am reminded of Paul's telling me that we are sent messengers, who are ordinary people delivering an extraordinary message.

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