Anyone just see Marc Short on CNN? He refuted what SSSA agents in Capitol said

[Laura PourMeADrink]

about agents feeling it was the end and calling loved ones. ( from last hearing) "I never saw any of that, they were just very professional". He said any fear of death came from the idea that SSSA agents would kill the insurrectionists!!! ( Not key officials).


He also slammed Gaetz, said he may be in prison by 2024 for child sex trafficking.

Sounds like the pigs are turning against the pigs

And sounds like you can add Marc Short to the "Absolute Crazy MF" list !

[Walleye]

1. So if he didn't see it it didn't happen? Tired of these people

[OneGrassRoot]

2. I did see it...

and was coming to see if anyone saw his comments about Gaetz...lol.

I don't think there's a conflict about the SS agents. I can imagine a scenario where the unidentified security official who testified at the J6 hearings that he/she overheard SS agents fearing for their lives really did witness that, but that the ones SS were protecting did NOT get that sense of fear at all. It's the SS's job to protect. I doubt they would ever admit they were afraid. I can also believe Short thought the insurrectionists would be massacred, not the target of their rage. Glad we didn't have to find out who'd be right.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

5. Exactly. Bottom line nothing worse happened

[Irish_Dem]

3. It was likely SSAs would have to use their weapons and receive fire from the insurrectionists

as they protected elected federal officials.

Then when Pence refused to get into a limo and be whisked away, options became limited and possibly quite dire.

We don't need to be a talking head on TV to figure that one out.

We also don't know if other SSAs were to be trusted which elevated the danger even more.

It was a very bad situation.

But this is what SSAs train for and yes they would have been professional.

Even professionals however have been known to send good bye messages to loved ones and say a few prayers.

I don't think we have to argue either or, the correct choice is probably all of the above.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

7. I think, as usual, you are probably right! We acknowledge those agents

who were closer to the horror line with crazies. Different than those close to VP. However, how likely would it be that news from the front line SSSA agents didn't filter back to the "inside" agents? In my outsider estimation I would guess it would be a low 20% likely. Therefore, Marc Short is probably one royal bullshit artist.


But why? Obviously he's speaking for Pence. Why. would Pence not want to act like his life was in danger? Wow that's some three dimensional chess huh?

[Irish_Dem]

20. Yes you are correct that what you just saw on TV was most likely a BS propaganda skit.

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Part of the SS damage control.

Also part of Pence's propaganda. Pence wants to make a run for the WH. He cannot be too negative about the GOP and the danger Trump put him in. Pence wants to stay away from Trump's ire.

We now know the SS is devious, corrupt and more powerful than we could have imagined.
They are on damage control right now.

There is zero chance that information did not flow back and forth between the SS agents on the ground to the rest of the SS.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

25. Tangled weave huh? A cluster that will play out soon?.

Or not The fact that we have them (liable perpetrators) all in a squeeze is some solace. But I have zero loved ones in the game, so just have to care from afar

I truly cannot imagine though, what it must have been like. I've heard Capital Police talk about that day. And to them, it was surreal. That fellow US citizens were trying to kill them.

[Irish_Dem]

29. The obvious end game for the committee is to get Trump.

Either in the court of public opinion or in a real court.

It is possible the only outcome will be the J6 committee public education program.

Yes the GOP feeling the squeeze may be all we get, but it is something for sure.

I know, US Capitol police horrifically attacked for three hours by American citizens.
And call after call for help is ignored. No help will come for them.

That had to be part of the surreal part too. Their superiors sent no back up.
Even in small towns, cops back up each other when a call goes out for help.

[certainot]

15. the agents would have a massive arsenal capable of killing hundreds

that's what's under those long coats, made to fit flat

either way they would be at war

[Irish_Dem]

22. Totally agree, SS had resources at their disposal.

I would think the SS has swat team on call 24/7.

Where were they? Why were they not called out.

But yes the agents would have long guns, body armor, first aid kits etc in the trunks of their car or stashed somewhere. I assume the SS has access to state of the art equipment to protect high level elected officials. Most of it we know nothing about, it is classified.

[certainot]

23. they might not have had trust in reinforcements though

[Irish_Dem]

24. Good point.

Who exactly is the swat team coming for?

[malaise]

4. No sane person would work with Mother's Boy

That is all

[czarjak]

6. Marc said mission accomplished. That peckerhead thought he'd stuck a fat hog.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

8. Is that a quote? Yikes is Marc Short like a double agent?

True to FG and pence?

[czarjak]

9. Not so much by choice. Ass-covering becomes a necessity when you see where the plan is headed.

Marc's been a POS since forever.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

18. When I heard him tonight, radar went off. He seems to

be trying to walk a very thin line. Between " I don't want to go to jail" and something like " please don't kill my family" and "I need a job, please hire me. "

Bet he tosses and turns.

[czarjak]

19. He didn't go to work for Pence out of the goodness in his heart and his great sense of patriotism.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

26. Wonder what it would take to be a pence staffer? Surely

.they are not all religious wingnuts.

[czarjak]

27. Dumbed-Down from the top!

[Laura PourMeADrink]

10. Truedat M

[UTUSN]

11. K&R

[dchill]

12. Sorry, I just can't get myself into believing ANYTHING...

...Marc Short says. He's a situational-ethics type of truth teller. (IOW, he's a liar.)

[BOSSHOG]

13. Oh You mean he's a republican

However I confuse myself by equating a Republican and ethics, even situational ethics. Does that mean he was/is a cheap date? Gosh, ten our fathers should cover any possible discrepancies at the murder scene.

[Laura PourMeADrink]

17. Look for, always look toward ulterior motives. I would

give anything to see the true ties and motives and connections underlying all these people.

[gab13by13]

14. Is it really a big deal

whether SS agents called their loved ones or not?

[Laura PourMeADrink]

16. Think it's about reality at the time vs. distorted reality

Biggest takeaway for me is that they are deliberately trying to distort this story, this recollection And although you're right, doesn't seem to matter in the big scheme of things, it actually does matter.

[kentuck]

21. Was he with Pence and his detail when they waded past the insurrectionists?

I heard someone say, perhaps Kinzinger, that it was the only way out for the VP? If Short was there, I cannot imagine him being unconcerned about it?

[pnwmom]

28. He didn't refute them, he couldn't refute them. All he could do was say that he didn't

observe this behavior among the agents in his presence.