Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:34 PM
Tommymac (6,671 posts)
📱 Hello is this Lindsey? Lindsey Graham? ... Hi! It's Rico!Link to tweet ![]() Not sure how RICO laws are going to be used here, I personally believe that part is still speculative... but wouldn't it be fun to watch Lindsey squirm in court? ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() #GOTV2022 #VOTEBLUE
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Tommymac | Aug 5 | OP |
elleng | Aug 5 | #1 | |
Tommymac | Aug 5 | #3 | |
elleng | Aug 5 | #4 | |
pnwmom | Aug 5 | #7 | |
elleng | Aug 5 | #10 | |
soldierant | Aug 5 | #13 | |
elleng | Aug 5 | #14 | |
soldierant | Aug 5 | #16 | |
Septua | Aug 5 | #2 | |
spanone | Aug 5 | #5 | |
lapfog_1 | Aug 5 | #6 | |
peppertree | Saturday | #21 | |
Tommymac | Saturday | #33 | |
Brainfodder | Aug 5 | #8 | |
Joinfortmill | Aug 5 | #9 | |
Martin68 | Aug 5 | #11 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Aug 5 | #12 | |
DET | Saturday | #23 | |
msfiddlestix | Saturday | #31 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Saturday | #35 | |
msfiddlestix | Sunday | #37 | |
babylonsister | Saturday | #29 | |
Laura PourMeADrink | Saturday | #36 | |
ecstatic | Aug 5 | #15 | |
rubbersole | Aug 5 | #17 | |
BootinUp | Aug 5 | #18 | |
poli-junkie | Aug 5 | #19 | |
peppertree | Saturday | #20 | |
live love laugh | Saturday | #24 | |
UTUSN | Saturday | #22 | |
GoodRaisin | Saturday | #25 | |
AntiFascist | Saturday | #26 | |
hlthe2b | Saturday | #27 | |
Novara | Saturday | #28 | |
Bucky | Saturday | #30 | |
Tommymac | Saturday | #34 | |
Hortensis | Saturday | #32 |
Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:39 PM
elleng (117,964 posts)
1. Dunno; let's see.
The Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations (RICO) Act is a United States federal law that provides for extended criminal penalties and a civil cause of action for acts performed as part of an ongoing criminal organization.
RICO was enacted by section 901(a) of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970 (Pub.L. 91–452, 84 Stat. 922, enacted October 15, 1970) and is codified at 18 U.S.C. ch. 96 as 18 U.S.C. §§ 1961–1968. G. Robert Blakey, an adviser to the United States Senate Government Operations Committee, drafted the law under the close supervision of the committee's chairman, Senator John Little McClellan. It was enacted as Title IX of the Organized Crime Control Act of 1970, and signed into law by US President Richard M. Nixon. While its original use in the 1970s was to prosecute the Mafia as well as others who were actively engaged in organized crime, its later application has been more widespread. Beginning in 1972, thirty-three states adopted state RICO laws to be able to prosecute similar conduct. |
Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:46 PM
Tommymac (6,671 posts)
3. Thanks for the definition. Much appreciated.
I'm not a lawyer so I really can't say one way or another if this speculation is accurate.
But it still makes me grin when I think about Lindsey sitting in the docket... ![]() |
Response to Tommymac (Reply #3)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:49 PM
elleng (117,964 posts)
4. and I'll put my $$$ on Fani Willis ANY day!
Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:31 PM
pnwmom (106,480 posts)
7. And Georgia has its own RICO law, which is defined more broadly and easier to prove
than the Federal law.
https://www.georgiacriminallawyer.com/rico#:~:text=RICO%20is%20a%20crime%20that,statute%20than%20the%20federal%20one. RICO is a crime that has a federal statute and a Georgia state statute. The Georgia statute defines racketeering more broadly than the federal law does. In addition, it takes less to prove a pattern of racketeering activity under the Georgia statute than the federal one. However, the largest difference between the two is that Georgia does not always require the existence of an enterprise to constitute racketeering. |
Response to elleng (Reply #1)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:13 PM
soldierant (4,163 posts)
13. And was Georgia one of those 33 sttes?
Don't keep us in suspenders.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:41 PM
Septua (1,223 posts)
2. Bring on the popcorn
I also want to see the other hundred plus Navarro said was involved, squirm.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 09:53 PM
spanone (131,442 posts)
5. Ooh, now that's a very interesting concept.
K&R
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:06 PM
lapfog_1 (26,897 posts)
6. rico... it even has a theme song!
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:20 AM
peppertree (16,738 posts)
21. Memories of high school
All the girls were crazy about the guy - for about a week.
Then it was Vanilla Ice, for a week, and so on... A little like Republican primaries. |
Response to lapfog_1 (Reply #6)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:39 AM
Tommymac (6,671 posts)
33. HaHaHaaaaaHa
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 10:35 PM
Brainfodder (4,588 posts)
8. Please process with my thanks!
Beer boy defender in super creepy fashion not forgotten!
Litany Lindsey! ![]() |
Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:01 PM
Martin68 (18,795 posts)
11. Graham is a total lickspittle and kiss ass, but I don't know if he was directly involved
in the conspiracy. Probably just going alone for the ride. He doesn't seem very bright.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:12 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (39,017 posts)
12. Well hate that since he's one of the more lovable devils
But you gotta pay your dues, for corruption. Too bad you chose that route but you did. Prison awaits you. Bah bye LG
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Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:59 AM
DET (330 posts)
23. Sad But True
I just can’t bring myself to despise Lindsay as much as the other traitors. He used to be so funny and charming, and he seemed to actually have a heart at one time. But sadly, everything Trump touches dies, metaphorically at least, and Lindsay has to pay for what he’s done.
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Response to DET (Reply #23)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:24 AM
msfiddlestix (4,919 posts)
31. Lindsey had a heart? And he was funny and charming at any time in his past? Boy, I missed that! n/t
Been watching that idiot for too long, I guess I missed all those affable qualities in his character!
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Response to msfiddlestix (Reply #31)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 05:31 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (39,017 posts)
35. Did you see the clip in the car where he talked about Biden?
He praised him like crazy. Talked about how there was no finer person.
He was hot and cold. Who knew that was gonna be ok. But got hooked up with trump somehow. Guessing blackmail. |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #35)
Sun Aug 7, 2022, 08:39 AM
msfiddlestix (4,919 posts)
37. I remember that video.. it was an astonishing thing to hear from him.
a moment of humanity which quickly disappears as a trump ass licker.
Even though that's a metaphor, he's an alcoholic moron and a liar among other things. |
Response to Laura PourMeADrink (Reply #12)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 07:52 AM
babylonsister (169,621 posts)
29. LG loveable?
He ceased being anything other than a turncoat the minute he became a 'yes' man to mf45, lying with ease when he felt it necessary. I think he's calculating and evil.
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Response to babylonsister (Reply #29)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 05:33 PM
Laura PourMeADrink (39,017 posts)
36. Yup remembering him from the past. Trump rots people's
Souls.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:19 PM
ecstatic (30,146 posts)
15. That's really good news.
He wanted my vote to be tossed out and I take that very personally. He needs to serve some time in prison, alongside his BFF trump.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:41 PM
rubbersole (823 posts)
17. He won't do well in prison.
Bummer.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:46 PM
BootinUp (42,851 posts)
18. RICO's are sometimes jackpots. nt
Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Fri Aug 5, 2022, 11:51 PM
poli-junkie (849 posts)
19. RICO the Republican party
Response to poli-junkie (Reply #19)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:15 AM
peppertree (16,738 posts)
20. They always wanted to be thought of as the 'party of the rich'
Well rico is rich in Spanish.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 12:28 AM
UTUSN (64,814 posts)
22. *What*/can't BE! - a lawyer, a military attorney, Senator?!1 - just *CAN'T* be!
Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 03:14 AM
GoodRaisin (7,397 posts)
25. Please let it be so
for that lying hyporcitical pud.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 03:19 AM
AntiFascist (12,557 posts)
26. K&R and LOL (I thought it might the name of one of his escorts) n/t
Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 06:26 AM
hlthe2b (92,597 posts)
27. Well, if they have someone prominent prepared to testify that Lindsey discussed/coordinated his call
with that of Trump and his gang of bumbling attorneys (say a Mark Meadows, for instance?) then RICO might well be applicable.
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:09 AM
Bucky (51,733 posts)
30. About the Rico laws: the crime itself is coercing an election official
The criminal conspiracy behind it would be Trump getting Lindsey Graham to also lean on the Georgia Secretary of State to commit the criminal act of rigging an election. An organized criminal conspiracy doesn't have to be a formal, ongoing, or permanent organization, like the mafia. RICO is there just for dealing with larger or more powerful criminal enterprises.
If it feels like a bit much for a single criminal act, coercion of an official in the performance of his duties, remember that there were other crimes being committed by the same informal conspiracy, like the fraud and impersonation involved in the fake electors scheme, similar actions in other states, as well as Senator Graham's open defiance of the grand jury subpoena. When the alleged criminals ramp up their efforts to fight law enforcement, then it becomes a powerful enough conspiracy to require employing the extra tools in the RICO laws |
Response to Bucky (Reply #30)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:43 AM
Tommymac (6,671 posts)
34. Thanks for this. As a layman I can understand it!
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Response to Tommymac (Original post)
Sat Aug 6, 2022, 09:29 AM
Hortensis (52,707 posts)
32. Thanks, Tommy. And Pnwmom for info on the GA version.
As for the charming creep, I wish execution by firing squad for treason was a potential penalty. tRump's rise to power didn't change people; it encouraged and enabled those who chose the dark side to reveal who they were by removing constraints on and rewarding bad behavior. Most people rejected the "opportunity."
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