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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMega-Thread: The right is prepping for civil war.
I have an alt-TikTok on the right-wing side of the platform. We all know the rhetoric from elected Republicans and talking heads since the Mar-A-Lago raid, but I made this thread to show how it's trickling down to Jimmy Bobby Joe and Bubu Ray. It's a long thread, but I'm still adding to it when I encounter these people (which is way too often). Anyway, y'all need to see.
Link to tweet
OneGrassRoot
(22,917 posts)how much more pervasive it is on Telegram and Gab and such?
Shell_Seas
(3,318 posts)Swede
(33,141 posts)Armed to the teeth and itching to shoot someone.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)until they start taking fire themselves, then let's see how many will actually stand and fight or how many will crap their pants and run home to mama/
How many of these loons have actually been in a combat situation?
I suspect the majority have not, their "combat" experience comes from playing video games like Medal of Honor, Call to Duty, etc. where they think that's the real deal.
There will be violence, but the majority of those who think they're prepared for a Civil War have no fucking idea what it's like to be on the receiving end of gunfire from a well trained force like the FBI's HRT, or just about any SWAT team in the country.
Another thing to consider, for any insurgency to be successful, you need the people on your side and I can pretty much guarantee that when these traitors start shooting/bombing innocent civilians, police and commerce gets interrupted, then they won't last long.
Jade Fox
(10,030 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)Elessar Zappa
(13,649 posts)There could be some maga terrorist incidents here and there but there wont be a civil war or insurgency. These people are, at heart, utter cowards.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)inthewind21
(4,616 posts)IF you watch the J6 video all it took was one shot and every person in that hallway quickly turned and ran. My History professor, retired Military, told my class the same thing you just said, "shooting at a target is great, makes you feel tough, wait until that targets starts shooting back" He laid odds that all you'd see of the "tough guys" was their back ends as they were running away screaming.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)A very wise History professor.
Phoenix61
(16,951 posts)sniping at the helicopters trying to evacuate the hospitals. Active duty were deployed.
They used their experience in Iraq and other operations to bring order to a confused situation.
Units the 82nd Airborne Division began arriving at the New Orleans Airport seven hours after getting deployment orders. MG William Caldwell of the 82nd Airborne received succinct orders from LTG Honore: "Your job is to fix the airport and fix New Orleans."
https://www.army.mil/article/45029/the_army_response_to_hurricane_katrina
Im sure youre not the least bit surprised the snipping
Jokers like this TikTok guy do not understand how quickly what ever bs they attempt will be put down.
jmbar2
(4,831 posts)They want to shoot people with their guns. It's their long-held fantasy. Just itching to have some sort of justification...
Perhaps you could ask, "And then what?"
- You will not win. See Ukraine to understand what a well-trained military can do to fight extremists.
- The legal fallout will ruin the rest of your lives. Legal expenses, loss of jobs, homes, family, prison.
This fantasy will remain a fantasy for 99% of them. The remaining 1% are making themselves easy to surveil.
I'm so sick of weak stupid, people who want to shoot guns. Send them to the front lines of Ukraine as cannon fodder.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)Fed./State SWAT teams will take these traitors down, those that choose to stand and fight, which, IMO, will be a few fanatical MAGAt's./
The Grand Illuminist
(1,306 posts)A good many of those extremists are former members of the military.
MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)They think that once the shooting starts and innocent civilians and law enforcement start getting killed or wounded, commerce starts getting interrupted, the general public will rise up and depose the Govt.
Not a fucking chance, the people will turn on them so quick it'll make their heads spin, besides, the vast majority of Fed. SWAT teams are former/retired military with better weapons and will take down those that decide to be "heroes for the revolution" pretty quickly if they refuse to surrender.
jmbar2
(4,831 posts)brooklynite
(93,844 posts)Its easy to sound tough from behind a keyboard or in front of a smartphone camera. Almost none of these people would have the courage to actually take on the Federal Government, much less the organizational capability. Case in point: the "People's Convoy" invasion of Washington.
hlthe2b
(101,713 posts)in deep red MAGAT states? -- And armed with the kinds of hardware that will diminish their AR15s to mere "pea-shooters?" And that their lack of $$ in those states, dependent on wealthier non-Magat states for their mere viability will, as was largely the case in the US civil war, cause overseas "benefactors" to scoff at them?
Yes, they can form an insurgency and we all know how difficult and long-lasting those kinds of fights can be, but eventually, even those movements die out. Pun intended.
And yes, I agree that most of those talking "tough" are cowards who have no intention of actually putting their words to action.
Mariana
(14,847 posts)MarineCombatEngineer
(12,092 posts)That's how loony tunes these traitors are.
ret5hd
(20,433 posts)OK. I wont. You obviously aint been to a gym in years, you couldnt carry that pack and rifle more than a couple hundred yards without collapsing and gasping for breath.
You might be suitable for sentry duty. Or cook.
robodruid1
(84 posts)Any civil war is likely to be a war of assassinations or targets of opportunity.
bigtree
(85,915 posts)...on individuals and our democracy.
There isn't anyone actually threatening them except the law. They may believe they're in a civil war, but they're just criminals acting out their anti-American nonsense with expressions of violence and actual violent acts.
They want locking up.
sop
(9,945 posts)They're the dregs of American society; irretrievably racist, ignorant, violent and consumed by a burning hatred for anyone not like them. These are the people Trump hopes will save him.
IrishAfricanAmerican
(3,804 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(143,999 posts)MineralMan
(146,192 posts)I doubt he has had to file a 1040 in years. Not enough income, and they don't tax disability benefits.
But, he has his "go bag" and some firearms. So, if the war comes right to his house, he might shoot someone. He's not really itching for a military-style action, though.
iscooterliberally
(2,849 posts)Response to Shell_Seas (Original post)
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Novara
(5,753 posts)And the reason I say this is because this isn't Jan. 6 when the Capitol was purposefully left under-guarded and vulnerable. Biden is in charge now, and there's no way he wouldn't immediately call out the National Guard. And these fucks know it. But they'll talk big because their brand is intimidation.
The Grand Illuminist
(1,306 posts)And they are really good at using it.
Elessar Zappa
(13,649 posts)99.9% of these idiots are all talk. They would crap themselves when the shooting starts.
Initech
(99,912 posts)And the repercussions would last decades. Maybe even centuries. Hell some people say we're still fighting the last civil war, these things are nothing to fuck around with.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)Anyone remember this tough guy?
https://www.thewrap.com/charlottesville-neo-nazi-leaders-cries-im-afraid-youre-going-to-kill-me-video/
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Victor_c3
(3,557 posts)If it did and red states wanted to secede, I tell them not to let the door hit them on the way out. Im completely unwilling to fight to keep these morons in our nation.
Im tired of our society constantly being held back from real progress.
tinrobot
(10,848 posts)Those traitorous cosplayers will collapse as soon as they see a National Guard unit.
Amishman
(5,540 posts)Or at least sympathetic.
Military and law enforcement lean right, especially at lower levels