Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views

[kpete]

Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views


Republican Presidential candidate Newt Gingrich suggested at a Fox News forum hosted by Mike Huckabee in South Carolina on Saturday that it would be a good idea to fire federal employees for being too liberal. Federal law, on the other hand, says Gingrich’s plan would be illegal.

“I think an intelligent conservative wants the right federal employees delivering the right services in a highly efficient way and then wants to get rid of those folks who are in fact wasteful, or those folks who are ideologically so far to the left, or those people who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us,” Gingrich said in response to a question from a federal employee at the forum (emphasis ours).
http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/01/gingrich-suggests-illegally-firing-federal-employees-over-liberal-views.php?ref=fpnewsfeed

[TwilightGardener]

1. They don't bother to hide it anymore. I guess that's a good thing.

[FarLeftFist]

57. LOL. He says 'intelligent conservative', like there is such a thing. Here's an idea...

How about those Liberal employees stop providing services to conservatives and we'll see how quickly their lives come crashing down.

[ejbr]

2. You can't make this stuff up...

"...those people who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us."

"Hypocrite, party of one."

[Hotler]

38. +1. Trying to shove their religion down peoples throat is the worst. n/t

[Kurmudgeon]

56. Nothing religious in the link, you're doing the same thing that you accuse of.

[MACARD]

60. you misunderstand the religion issue

Gingrich believes in the religion of Gingrichism, of which he is the all mighty lord.

all Hail the Great Gingrich, our Lord and Savior

keep in mind i live in the state he represented, there is practically a Golden Idol of him of which republicans migrate to and worship, and pray "oh mighty Gingrich please deliver us from these Liberals and cure us of the scourge of Blacks, Jews, Hispanics, Gays, and all other non-Aryans, Amen praise Newt"

[Alcibiades]

80. No, I think they have just been paying attention

to the other things Newt is saying now and has been saying for years:

http://secular.org/content/gingrich-says-atheists-cant-be-trusted-disregards-50-million-secular-americans

"Gingrich, a former U.S. Representative and 58th Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives, said an atheist has no business in the White House. “Does faith matter? Absolutely,” Gingrich said. “How can you have judgment if you have no faith? How can I trust you with power if you don’t pray?” He continued, “the notion that you are endowed by your creator sets a certain boundary of what we mean by America.” Gingrich said that Americans should value religion first, above morality and knowledge."

Newt wants to set himself up as the judge of who is a real American, based on thay they do or do not believe. There's pleny more out there to document Gingrich's desire to set up a second-class citizenship status for securlar and Islamic Americans, if you're interested.

Hard to understand why anyone would be so quick to accuse a DUer of bias for pointing out bias in someone who's established a 30 year track record of intolerance.

[MACARD]

85. Gingrich forgot to mention that he doesn't apply this to Islamic politicians. nt

[xxqqqzme]

78. Cons wet dream -

dictate to the rest of us. They're big on projection.

[Salviati]

84. It's because they have no imagination...

That's the way that they are, so that's the way they imagine everyone else is like too. If you want to know what a conservative is guilty of, you need merely observe what they accuse others of doing.

[NRaleighLiberal]

3. What an absolutely vile human being he is....repugnant to the extreme. n/t

[Octafish]

4. 5-4

Tradition.

[neverforget]

5. This is the logical extention of their rhetoric. If they could get away with it,

the Republican Party would be the ONLY party.

[Hotler]

41. With republicans it's always party before country. n/t

[AlbertCat]

45. And throughout the 20th century...

... you thought the Right HATED the USSR!

Now we can clearly see it was just ENVY.

[riderinthestorm]

6. Despicable. And this guy purports to be a historian... nt

[lovuian]

7. that is why we have a Civil Servants Union

the Pendleton Act, a civil service reform bill that created the first Civil Service Commission. It was the first step towards creating a professional civil service that would rise above political machinations by using a merit system for promotion. The act would also ensure continuity in federal employees from one administration to the next, even if the White House changed parties.


During the Gilded Age, 1876-1900, Congress was known for being rowdy and inefficient. It was not unusual to find that a quorum could not be achieved because too many members were drunk or otherwise preoccupied with extra-governmental affairs. The halls of Congress were filled with tobacco smoke and spittoons were everywhere. One disgusted observer noted that not only did the members chew and spit incessantly, but their aim was bad. The atmosphere on the floor was described as an “infernal din.” The Senate, whose seats were often auctioned off to the highest bidder, was known as a “rich man's club,” where political favors were traded like horses, and the needs of the people in the working classes lay beyond the vision of those exalted legislators.

http://www.academicamerican.com/recongildedage/topics/gildedagepolitics.html

History repeats itself ...Gingrich's ideas are old and corrupt

[AlbertCat]

46. members were drunk or otherwise preoccupied with extra-governmental affairs.

Did they cry a lot?
Were they meeting in secret groups to figure out ways to pay off mistresses?

Unbelievable!

[47of74]

59. Or making wide stances in outhouses?

[Beartracks]

8. ... stated Gingrich, dictating to the rest of us. n/t

[bullwinkle428]

9. Give the fucker a few more days, and he'll suggest that executing us is the next step.

[Ken Burch]

15. ...and he'll send our families the bill for the bullet, like another "visionary thinker" did:

[cgnick]

10. I've see more freeloading from so called conservatives

in the workplace than anyone else. I work in a manufacturing plant. The biggest offenders of wasting company time and stealing company property are self proclaimed staunch conservatives and republicans. We have a very nice cafeteria that serves free turkey dinners around Thanksgiving and prime rib around Christmas. Two of the Tea Party folks that I work with come in early or stay late to have the meal served on two different shifts. These "conservatives" are the same folks that will take pastries or sodas left over from meetings and stuff their lunchboxes full instead leaving it for eveyone else to have one or two. The same folks that I have seen abuse overtime and steal whole tool boxes woth of expensive items.

[Duct Tape]

11. An intelligent conservative?

Isn't that an oxymoron?

[Pholus]

12. Good. The next time I hear about academia persecuting conservatives I now have an answer...

I think an intelligent liberal wants the right university employees delivering the right education in a highly efficient way and wants to get rid of those folks who are in fact wasteful, or those folks who are ideologically so far to the right or those people who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us.

After all, Newt said bias against people for their beliefs is good!

[Blue_Tires]

13. by this statement, Newton also clearly supports

politicizing the application process as well...Remember the clusterfuck of Bush's Justice Department?? And how far some unqualified wingnuts rose as long as the had the proper ideology and came from the 'right' schools??

[AlbertCat]

47. how far some unqualified wingnuts rose

Stop picking on Clarence Thomas!

[Pab Sungenis]

63. ...and some of whom are now seen as Presidential material.

[Ken Burch]

14. In other words, abolish the Civil Service and bring back the spoils system. Great

Newt's campaign song could be "Tonight We're Gonna Party Like It's 1879".

[Historic NY]

16. Really........I suppose they should only have conservatives enlist too...

[jwirr]

17. Newty will only keep those federal employees who want to hire some little kid to be their janitor.

[AlbertCat]

49. hire some little kid to be their janitor.

Only little kids with the proper ideology.

[MACARD]

55. you mean a kid who looks like this?

http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=&imgrefurl=http://histclo.com/youth/youth/org/nat/hitler/hitler.htm&h=448&w=573&sz=18&tbnid=coaHwOrJ5GL67M:&tbnh=90&tbnw=115&zoom=1&docid=8pHzUY2BTvXDtM&sa=X&ei=cf0ST_fzAoabtwfjtpz8AQ&ved=0CFEQ9QEwBA&dur=4245

maybe a Repub elephant or face of Newt instead of the shwastica

[tabatha]

18. Maybe the country should be split in two

then we can watch the conservative half screw themselves.

[patrice]

19. Hell, they don't even have to be Liberal, just ask Kansas' ex-state-employees what Subsidy-Sam

Brownback did the minute he got into office.

[chervilant]

20. He says...

"...get rid of ... those people who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us." ...as he dictates to the rest of us!

(AND, what's with the "frankly"? Is that just a Freudian slip about his own mendacity?)

[Art_from_Ark]

21. Talk about extremists

Gingrich is so far out in right field, he needs a helicopter to get back to the dugout

[sellitman]

22. This is why I vote

I don't need any other reason now.

[eyewall]

23. I had a job interview with the VP of a medium sized company.

He said to me "You can't work here with long hair. You'll have to cut your hair."
I said "why is that?"
He said "We're a conservative company."
I said "how do you mean, politically conservative?".
He said "yes".
I said "you mean "Republican?".
He said "yes".
I said "I'm going to go talk to Steve (the President of the company)."
I told Steve he needed to watch this guy cause he would surely put his company out of business. I told him I wouldn't pursue the matter but I hoped he was aware of how stupid his VP was. I grudgingly accepted the job with the stipulation that I wasn't working under the VP. (The stupid conservative VP did in fact put the company out of business less than a year later.)

What Newt said he wanted to do is sooo illegal. Do the republicans have any idea what the laws of this country are? Do they care? I know, stupid questions. I'm swimming in cognitive dissonance and it's just getting deeper every day.

[krispos42]

24. Yeah, like the efficient Bush Adminstration officials...

...that ran the... what was it called? Minerals Bureau, or something?

The guys that were snorting meth off of toaster ovens and screwing hookers.



Or the VA? They did a great job of delivering services, if you don't mind waiting 6 months and them being in denial as to your wounds for the sake of budget discipline.



The SEC did a great job, too, very efficiently supporting the policy of "corporations know what's best for everybody".


FEMA during Katrina? All those efficient right-wingers delivering services efficiently.


How about those right-wing Guardians of the Public's Treasury over at the Pentagon? The ones paying billions for buildings that are uninhabitable and convoys of empty trucks moving from Basra to Baghdad?

[Joe the Revelator]

25. That is some crazy, fucked up shit. Nt

[DCKit]

26. I didn't even look at what y'all said ^..... K&R.

[montex]

27. Bombastic Rhetoric from Faux Candidate

Gingrinch is not a serious candidate for the POTUS. He says outrageous things because it gives the wing nuts a chubby, which will help Newt sell more books. He's looking for more asinine things to say and he needs to up himself on a constant basis.

It's sad to watch Americans of any political wing paying any attention to this bully. But as long as he keeps making wild announcements, he advances the Newt Gingrinch™ brand.

[AlbertCat]

51. He says outrageous things because it gives the wing nuts a chubby,

Give him a blond wig and a little black dress and they won't be able to tell him from Ann Coulter.

[Maynar]

77. Sure they will

Newt's adam's apple doesn't measure up.

[DallasNE]

28. So Gingrich Would Repeal The Hatch Act

And pave the way for total corruption. We already saw how it worked when Bush named Chris Cox the Securities Exchange Commission Chairman. And this happened without firing any lower level staff. Here, check for youself to see how this would play out.
http://seekingalpha.com/article/96487-5-failures-of-sec-chairman-cox

Just think of the damage that could be done if everybody was pulling together instead of just the top dog.

[Scootaloo]

29. If only his was a lonely voice in the wolderness

But no. They all really think this. It's just that Newt has the ego enough to see nothing wrong with being openly fascist.

[marmar]

30. Is there one Repug who isn't a foaming-at-the-mouth mad dog?

nt

[eyewall]

94. I have a republican friend

guy I thought was really smart. Then one day he said "I think Sarah Palin could make a fine president."
So to answer your question, no, even the ones that seem okay, aren't.

[snagglepuss]

31. In other word Gingrich is saying "vote for me and I'll hire my base for jobs in the public service."

[blkmusclmachine]

32. "Christian" Dominionists often say they want to be MORE than "a voice at the table:"

They say they want to be the ONLY voice at the table. So the Grinch's comment is right in line with their thinking. So much for DC's phony "bi-partisanship."

[LeftishBrit]

33. Chilling. Makes me think of McCarthyism.

[barbtries]

34. why not just kill them all outright?

clearly liberals don't deserve to live.

just when i think i can't be shocked by them. they say something like this. oh. my. gawd.

[grantcart]

35. Man I wish he would get the nomination

[PuffedMica]

36. Why stop at firing? Send us all to the Gulag. There is nothing like a good political purge

Stalin would be pleased at what we have become

[Zoeisright]

37. The projection is so unbelievably obvious.

People who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us???

Come on - I can't believe Gingrich's head doesn't do a 360 on his fat neck. This guy is more anti-American than the Taliban.

[blackspade]

39. what an a-hole.

could they make the election any easier for Obama?

at this rate we might win back all of congress as well!

[DrDan]

40. ok . . . he's gone too far now and has definitely lost my vote

[Ferretherder]

48. OK, you did it.....

you made me laugh for the first time, this morning.

[lunatica]

42. It sounds a lot like Totalitarian 'purges' to me

[Faygo Kid]

43. Totalitarian dirtbag.

Or, as others might put it, a Republican leader.

[n2doc]

44. Can you imagine the shitstorm if Obama or Biden suggested firing conservative Federal Emp.?

[ihavenobias]

71. Heads would explode.

"Liberal media" my ass.

[ProSense]

50. So

"Gingrich Suggests Illegally Firing Federal Employees Over Liberal Views"

...this twit is suggesting firing the people who actually believe in government? Federal employees who hold conservative views and agree with dismantling the government should see themselves as hypocrites.

[proud2BlibKansan]

52. There's a guy who's a regular on a local blog who claims to be an FBI agent. He's a birther.

But I don't suppose Newt would want to fire him?

[The Backlash Cometh]

53. Republican government has a higher rate of incompetence.

I have never witnessed a more incompetent and wasteful government system than I have since living in a Republican area. The employees are "yes" men and women who have no sense of individual responsibility to the public, and instead know that longevity in their employment relies on their willingness to be used as the fall guys when the leadership gets caught. And what does the leadership do? They stratify their own community by making exceptions for "key people" and punish anyone who doesn't allow themselves to be victimized by victimizing them further.

It's time that people know the truth about Republican led government.

[Wait Wut]

54. It worked in Iran.

Newter wants a dictatorship, not a Presidency. Awesome.

[spicegal]

58. Newt Gingrich has some serious mental health issues which should be further investigated.

He wreaks of bipolarism. His arrogance, grandiosity, hatefulness, lack of judgement or insight, impulsivity, etc. are all bad signs. Why does no one bring any of this up. Something is seriously wrong with him.

[MACARD]

64. Hate to tell you this but that isn't bipolar Behavior

Bipolars have Ups and downs, no his behavior reflects Narcissistic Personality Disorder, and Borderline Personality Disorder (both disorders characterized by everything is about me), which is in the same family of disorders as Anti-Social Personality Disorder (a lack of inhibitions and ability to see consequences) which is a disorder that often leads to Serial killing and Terrorism, not for a cause, but because it is fun. (need a doctor smiley)

[Shagman]

61. Next we'll have loyalty oaths...

Why stop at the public sector? Fire people in the private sector who are "too liberal."

Only ... who decides what is "too liberal"? Whose job is safe when you can be denounced at any time for any reason, or no reason at all? And how do you run a company when there's nobody left with any common sense?

[DreamSmoker]

62. What An Asshole

This Dickhead is one of the reasons Repukes are the way they are today...
Chaney was the same on this crap too...

Thin out the Herds and plant your kind of People..
Just like stacking People in the Justice Department who cannot find a clue on how to persecute those Bank CEOs
who stole all of America's Cash...

[BiggJawn]

65. "Illegally firing"... That's so funny.

That mutha-fuckah would wear out 20 pens his first day in office signing Executive Orders to repeal anything he didn't like and to give himself supreme power.

"But when the President of the United States does it, it's NOT illegal..." Richard Nixon

So what kind of patch will Newt require that all we Liberals wear on our coats? the Mogen David thing's been done to death.

[raouldukelives]

66. At least he only wants to fire the liberals

2000 years ago he would have had them crucified.

[ladjf]

67. Newt is even dumber than I had previously thought. And, he fancies himself as an "intellectual".

[The Genealogist]

68. He wants to be Dictator of the US

Tiffany has some serious mental issues. He has deluded himself into thinking he is some kind of potential potentate, a king or dictator. He thinks he can win the presidency and just waltz in and eliminate anyone who is connected to the government that fails to toe his narrow line. End the judgeships that don't agree with his disgusting governmental philosophies. Ignore established SCOTUS precedents. Trouble is, he would probably do these things he is always talking about, and the second he got into office. Sure, before he is done destroying what is left of the rule of law, there would be mass riots in every US town from Weaubleau, Missouri to New York City itself. But there are those militarized police forces in most every community. There are gobs of military resources he could call on. Millions would die, but those who were left would behave, I think, at least those who weren't working underground to topple such a dystopian "presidency."

[WingDinger]

70. Noone seems to remember, that a short time ago, Newt said he would only run for pres IF,

we BEGGED him. And when the people beg you, there arent the ordinary constraints.

I dont remember anyone begging him.

[Initech]

69. Keep talking, Newt.

These gas bags just don't get it, do they?

[Rex]

72. Newt imo represents what is WRONG with Congress and America.

ALL that is wrong with Congress and America.

[workinclasszero]

73. Newt and his damned tea party

would really like to lock up everyone who isn't a brainwashed mouth breather.

Who knows maybe the bastards will get their way someday...

[brewens]

74. It's a small sampling, but of the 50 or so people I've worked with enough to know

very well, all three of the biggest pains-in-the-ass are conservatives!

I mean exactly the kind of stuff conservatives would expect from liberals. Being lazy, nitpicky about what they are entitled to and taking every possible advantage of their co-workers.

My main pet peeve is when we might be understaffed and slammed. I say suck it up and get the job done! There are plenty of days when we are slow and sit around. This is usually at mobile blood drives. We shouldn't insist on taking our full half-hour lunch and letting things back up. That makes volunteer blood donors have to wait. Most of us will stick it out and keep going or just take a quick break.

You just can't always know when we're going to get more than just the scheduled appointments. In the event that we didn't get our lunches, especially the second half-hour on 11 hour or longer days, they don't deduct that from our hours. At the end of a long day, we are entitled to stop and take that second lunch break, but most of us would rather just get home. Leave it to a so-called conservative to go to our bosses and threaten to go to Labor and Industries over that! Now it's mandatory! Thank you very much.

We had another one think she was scheduled to work too many weekends. She actually analyzed everyones schedule and went in to her supervisor with a spread sheet! Hey Newt! Want a good conservative working for you at one of your scam opperations? I have a dandy for you!

Conservative number three was habitually late among many other things. I busted her for it and she got her ass chewed. The next move was for her to pull up right at the back door, come in and punch in, then go park in the employee parking and come in. I'm not making this up. Did I mention she was also an idiot? She was already on the "no slack list". How did she think that was gonna fly? It didn't, and eventually we got rid of her.

[Aerows]

75. Newt *sigh*

I've smelled more intelligent farts than anything I've ever heard Gingrich say.

[sulphurdunn]

76. Sounds like Comrade Newt

wishes to purge enemies of the state from the ranks of government.

[SemperEadem]

79. after the liberals

then who is next on the chopping block? People with short white hair?

That bullshit is dog whistle for "there are too many blacks working for the Federal Government", since most blacks vote democrat.

[randr]

81. "or those people who want to frankly dictate to the rest of us"

Is this man so removed from reality that he does not see the irony let alone the hypocrisy?
Just who does he think he is dictating to?

[saras]

82. He's right. Conservatives always choose loyalty over competence...

...and after they do this for a while, they no longer recognize competence as competence at all, merely as a challenge to their authority. They are happy to degenerate to mud huts and cholera as long as their mud hut is bigger than yours and they get medicine you don't, even if the medicine doesn't work.

[spedtr90]

83. Imagine what a Gingrich administration would do with the Defense Authorization Act...

especially if the "right people" were on the Supreme Court.

[Pakid]

86. Just like the Nazis

Turn in your liberal friends and family members and be a hero to the Republican (Nazi) state party

[McCamy Taylor]

87. What he really means is fire them for being too Black.

[Diclotican]

88. kpete

kpete

This smells more and more like the old nasty dead thing, that "we" experienced on our side of the pound for 60-70 year when Hitler was on the rise to power.. He also claimed what he wanted to do, if he got to power. No one really belived him, becouse what it said was to outraged to be true. He did what he claimed to do, when he got the chanclery in 1933...

You should put Gingerich in the "idiot" label, and just tell him to go away. What he, and many other on the extreme right in US is telling, is what they would do, if they ever got the chance to do it.. Now they also have the tools to do it, with The Patriot Act. the MCA and now the Defense Authorization Act.. As Hitler had his "acts" who specially after the Reichtag fire in 1933, where the communist, and the socialist,and the socialdemocrats was accused of doing the deeds.. (It was a metal disturbed person who lighted the building, even tho Goerings SA, also had plans to set the building on fire) and the fire was used to give Hitler, and the NSDAP more power than ever before... The consequenses was that Hitler could do whatever he wanted to do.. And he did it...

I have been trying to read some of what happening in th US the last couple of year - and I have to say, it is scary to look at the whole affair from abroad. It looks like many americans just dosen't get how dangrous the situation really are, with the fair right as they do in the US.. The few who do read the lines, and understand how dangrous it is, are the one targeted and told to be quite, or else... And Im sad to say, that even DU have just a small percentage of the americans who is able to understand how things are, and try to fight the far right.. And most americans either don't underand, or dosen't care how bad things really are in the US, and as long as they can get their "american gladiator" on the TV, then everyhing is dandy,dandy...

On this case, I really hope, that enough americans dosen't wote for mr Gingrich for Preisdent.. President Obama is maybe not what we hoped for (bot in the US and abroad) but he is far better than any off the current alternatives on the GOP side.. I fear, really with a GOP style President in the US frm 2013, we really all, collectively wil be in a lot of shit we might not ever get up off easely..

US have a lot of nuclear weapons, with the ability to destroy the world, many, many times over.. That was one of the things Hitler dosen't had when he was rampaging the world, and inderectly killed more than 50 million peopole..

How many can a US president on rampage manage to murder before he was stoped.. ?

Diclotican

[GTurck]

89. Reading...

a great book called "The Reactionary Mind: From Hobbes to Palin" Conservatives, particularly now are more radical reactionaries than anything else. Their whole view is based on feeling like they are losing power and being determined not to let it go. They really do believe that they are better in everyway and concede only the equality of the market place. If they could we would all be chattel who nevertheless can buy their products and services, which of course is more valuable than our existence. Hobbes called life nasty, short, and brutish for the majority of humanity and I think he really saw that as how it should be; but not for himself or other conservatives.
I recommend the book and recommend we all work to make Gingrich have to eat these words of intolerance.

[Mendocino]

90. Fire them all!

Then replace them with hypocrites, serial adulterers, ethics violators and those who subvert the electoral process just to sell books.

[santamargarita]

91. Gingrich and the rest of that bunch of American hating servile scum should have their citizenship...

revoked. They hate this country so much, make them leave!

[CarmanK]

92. W all over again. Contaminate the DOJ with political hacks and incompetence.

This is why it is so important that Obama be re elected. W spent 8 years weakening the federal govt and enabling incompetence. Look what he did to the DOJ. How many cases have been dismissed because of incompetence, and DOJ unethical behavior? Then of course we know that the Office of Mineral Management was in bed figuratively and literally with the industry. It is always amazing to me how blunt the GOP is about advocating corruption in govt as a good thing for the country. It weakens enforcement, if govt is impotent, so in the eyes of the GOP that is an admirable objective.

[Skittles]

93. let me guess - wasting money on senseless wars does not count as "inefficent and wasteful"

typical repuke hypocrite