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Breaking now: House and Senate Intelligence committees have asked DOJ for a classified (Original Post) Raven Aug 2022 OP
Ignorance asking: no_hypocrisy Aug 2022 #1
It's an evaluation of what sort of damage could have been/was done Ocelot II Aug 2022 #3
Wow no_hypocrisy Aug 2022 #4
Wow is right. paleotn Aug 2022 #15
Pendejo45 has personal money problems, so no doubt I feel ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #38
He's probably RocRizzo55 Aug 2022 #46
I'm sure that his off-shore bank balances have been kept topped up during his whole mis-presidency. erronis Aug 2022 #57
Good point. I get the feeling that the feds know exactly what documents Laura PourMeADrink Aug 2022 #58
NOT probably DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #69
Didn't we execute the Rosenbergs for less than this? triron Aug 2022 #82
No shit DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #87
Not sure I would go that far. triron Aug 2022 #89
I am mostly against the Death Penalty DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #91
It was a 10-pallbearer ash carry. colorado_ufo Aug 2022 #86
Water tight and air tight?????? DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #90
reportedly, payroll records for U.S. spies were in the documents. Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #93
Do you remember when the guy DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #94
Jeebus what a mess. Grasswire2 Aug 2022 #96
Bush/Cheney DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #97
The original name of the Iraq invasion was the mythical ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #103
If true DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #104
They don't understand that ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #105
the nuclear inspector? 90-percent Aug 2022 #111
Bingo 90% ! DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #113
its nice to be 68 years old 90-percent Aug 2022 #120
I am a few years ahead of you, 90%er DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #122
Ivana's coffin took TEN struggling pallbearers to move. Weird for someone who was cremated. OMGWTF Aug 2022 #108
How much of this is funding the GOP, which would explain A LOT! n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #124
He's probably already made money on some OTHER documents pnwmom Aug 2022 #76
He went down there almost every other weekend DENVERPOPS Aug 2022 #95
Trump's plan - Sell the documents, take the money, and flee wnylib Aug 2022 #51
I'm hoping he can't hop on some yacht with a helicopter that takes him to Cuba where ... erronis Aug 2022 #61
There are other places he could go wnylib Aug 2022 #66
I think that is why Biden had the latest Bin Laden co hart killed, just to show some people LiberalArkie Aug 2022 #75
Maybe. But Al-Zawahiri has been on our hit list wnylib Aug 2022 #88
If he hangs the intelligence community out to dry there will be no place on this earth for him gldstwmn Aug 2022 #84
THIS! THIS! THIS! OMGWTF Aug 2022 #107
what does pendejo mean? msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #115
Spanish for IDIOT! aggiesal Aug 2022 #117
✔️ Ty n/t msfiddlestix Aug 2022 #118
I have a clearance that would allow me to view COL Mustard Aug 2022 #119
Pendejo45. pnwest Aug 2022 #123
Sounds like the damage is considerable. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2022 #33
Exactly, and asking for it drives home the seriousness of what Trump may have done. Raven Aug 2022 #5
Determination of who/what has been compromised. Nevilledog Aug 2022 #7
How much damage could have been done by Trump selling these particular documents? Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #8
If these documents contain the locations of nuclear warheads UpInArms Aug 2022 #19
Perhaps all kinds of tactical military and CIA information. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #20
When russia had a spy feeding them US intelligence during the Vietnam war their main goal yaesu Aug 2022 #45
Very interesting. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #49
That's what I'm thinking too. nt yaesu Aug 2022 #53
Putin is smart and he would have gotten as much intel asap when Trump was in the WH. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #55
or info about our submarines vlyons Aug 2022 #30
Yes Naval nuke sub blueprints might be a high ticket item. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #52
or their location, capabilities, missions, vlyons Aug 2022 #62
Yep exactly. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #63
Or possibly the identities of the undercover agents involved with these things Walleye Aug 2022 #32
Don't forget documents that might be gone forever, that we don't even know about. pnwmom Aug 2022 #77
Right, I hope there are some document lists somewhere and they are being checked. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #78
I think it means if that fucker had NUKE recipes, he should wind up executed? Brainfodder Aug 2022 #65
Even more important: What's the source of this unsourced "breaking news"? ificandream Aug 2022 #101
What the FBI Has Found thus far GypsyTejas Aug 2022 #2
Great first post! Welcome. You'll fit right in. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #21
Republican's spines markodochartaigh Aug 2022 #24
LOL! EndlessWire Aug 2022 #34
ROFL! Welcome to DU! n/t livetohike Aug 2022 #47
Welcome to our DU family. niyad Aug 2022 #70
LOL! Welcome to DU MissMillie Aug 2022 #80
They are going to be pale when they come out of that meeting. kentuck Aug 2022 #6
First they are going to turn ashen white. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #10
Defib first. lastlib Aug 2022 #36
Ha. Good one. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #40
Jay Bratt already has HariSeldon Aug 2022 #67
I don't suppose he will make any public statements. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #68
That reminds me of the briefing early in Trump's term when Democratic members left and were Lonestarblue Aug 2022 #44
The info may have come from a CIA spy close to Putin. One of Trump's assignments NCjack Aug 2022 #60
Given how much the DoD and other departments have been infiltrated by trump/russian moles, erronis Aug 2022 #64
The republican members of those committees Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #9
I think it will put them in a much more difficult spot than just that. OnDoutside Aug 2022 #13
As one of the attractive blonde women on Fox News said... AntiFascist Aug 2022 #17
Stupid as pressure-treated wood. And you can't fix stupid. Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #23
All that showed was that she has no understanding of how those codes work. Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #25
No understanding of history either: ie Julius and Ethel Rosenberg n/t AntiFascist Aug 2022 #29
Probably damn little understanding of anything except cleavage.... lastlib Aug 2022 #42
Most dangerous one on House committee: Elise Stefanik: Senate: most of them, eg Rubio muriel_volestrangler Aug 2022 #73
If they take back the House, those two Mr.Bill Aug 2022 #74
Will the Rs refuse to attend? central scrutinizer Aug 2022 #11
of course not... the damage assessment will tip them off to what the FBI retrieved. WarGamer Aug 2022 #12
Let's hope that Adam Schiff has thought about that. Raven Aug 2022 #16
link to the letter ... Jarqui Aug 2022 #14
Excellent! 👏👏👏👏 SheltieLover Aug 2022 #18
Let's be honest. This could be bad, very bad. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #22
Who knows te extent of the damage over the last 6 years. Incalculable. WTF was he doing with the Evolve Dammit Aug 2022 #26
Yes we know Trump is capable of the most heinous crimes against the US. Irish_Dem Aug 2022 #27
He didn't sell out to the highest bidder he sold out to everyone Demanchor Aug 2022 #48
So Republicans, chew on that bone for a while vlyons Aug 2022 #28
None of this would happen if the (R) were the majority ... aggiesal Aug 2022 #31
Is the GQP in agreement with this? 867-5309. Aug 2022 #35
How serious could this be, really? jaxexpat Aug 2022 #37
This will be another laxative for the GOP. The request makes them seem guilty to support TFG. panader0 Aug 2022 #39
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2022 #41
And, it's Saturday! EndlessWire Aug 2022 #43
Democrats should be very cautious with their questions, imo... kentuck Aug 2022 #50
Maybe the Chairs should get the briefing and share it with others on their Committee at Raven Aug 2022 #54
+1 crickets Aug 2022 #92
Hair Twitler probably has no idea of the worth of the documents, Hermit-The-Prog Aug 2022 #56
It occurred to me in the middle of the night that MontanaMama Aug 2022 #59
Is this a "gang of eight" briefing? niyad Aug 2022 #71
Intelligence Committee means Democrats only right? Cuz there NoMoreRepugs Aug 2022 #72
Definitely needs to be done. onetexan Aug 2022 #79
The leaks will be flowing! nt SayItLoud Aug 2022 #81
I feel sorry for the poor members of our military and government agencies with high clearances. Dysfunctional Aug 2022 #83
Yes, and besides that, many of their lives are endangered FakeNoose Aug 2022 #99
"Russia's a ruse" though? czarjak Aug 2022 #85
It's been posted Trump will never be sent to prision due to security issues & Secret Service detail dlk Aug 2022 #98
I'm curious what the source is of this story. I don't see it on the wires. ificandream Aug 2022 #100
Here you go - House Democrats Ask Intelligence Chief to Assess Trump Documents crickets Aug 2022 #102
thanks ificandream Aug 2022 #121
While you're at it, please look into Ivana's incredibly heavy coffin for a person that was cremated OMGWTF Aug 2022 #106
Good and timely move! burrowowl Aug 2022 #109
I suspect Trump was thinking he would pull a Snowden and that is why he took what he did because cstanleytech Aug 2022 #110
K&R Roisin Ni Fiachra Aug 2022 #112
Shouldn't Republicans be barred from this Assessment? Samrob Aug 2022 #114
Ikr? They're double agents at this point ecstatic Aug 2022 #116

Ocelot II

(115,674 posts)
3. It's an evaluation of what sort of damage could have been/was done
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:40 PM
Aug 2022

to our national security if the TS documents were seen or given to foreign actors.

paleotn

(17,911 posts)
15. Wow is right.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:58 PM
Aug 2022

Donnie didn't keep this stuff for his reading enjoyment. The cretin who monetizes everything, monetized our national security. We need to know how badly we're damaged. Shit is getting very real.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
38. Pendejo45 has personal money problems, so no doubt I feel ...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:49 PM
Aug 2022

Pendejo45 planned to make money off these documents.

This is a big deal in the intelligence community, where a clearance holders' financial problems could be easily compromised.
This is an area where clearances would be withheld.

I have to believe, this is why Jarvanka were denied clearances and may be one of the reasons Biden would not share intelligence information Pendejo45. I'm sure Pendejo45 was banking on that intelligence.

 

RocRizzo55

(980 posts)
46. He's probably
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:04 PM
Aug 2022

already made money on some of those documents. It seems to be the only thing that motivates him. Not to mention his supremacist attitude. Orange Julius Caesar/

erronis

(15,241 posts)
57. I'm sure that his off-shore bank balances have been kept topped up during his whole mis-presidency.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:22 PM
Aug 2022

And I'm sure the leakages have started as soon as he was briefed as the (r)epuglicon candidate in 2016.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
58. Good point. I get the feeling that the feds know exactly what documents
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:23 PM
Aug 2022

exist. Or have ever existed. Thank god for that! But let's just say comes down to 10 documents are missing, for example. I can hear trump saying right now " I have no idea". And it's not like the person or entity that he sold them to could or would speak up. Reminds me of a theft of the Mona Lisa.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
69. NOT probably
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:49 PM
Aug 2022

Quite positively........Not only Trump but his spawn and her husband Jared.

Why would the Saudi's sponsor and pay for a Trump Resort Golf Tournament. Except to gather nefarious characters from all over the globe in one place??????

Why did Jared go down to visit the Saudi's, without even staying the night, and come back with a 150 Million Dollar "loan" that he desperately need to bail out one of his disastrous real estate deals the next week.

Why did Jared get a TWO BILLION DOLLAR investment a few weeks ago in his business that doesn't even exist at this time.

There is probably a ludicrous amount of money in off shore accounts under Trump, Ivanka, and Jared stashed away from all their grifting during the distribution of PPE stockpiles during the Covid Epidemic......

Trump probably just GAVE AWAY any and all military/nuclear intel to Putin. Not only on the U.S. but every other Nuclear armed country in the world.

Who knows how much other info he gave Putin, let alone sold to the highest worldwide bidder.

This is so far out of control, and I seriously don't think we know the massive amounts of it. This shit is just the literal tip of the iceberg.

If I was the DOJ and FBI I would be executing NO KNOCK search warrants on Ivanka and Jared's home. But they are much smarter than Daddy Don and probably already have it stashed away in other locations.

For conspiracy nuts, why would Donnie bury his wife's coffin on his property besides the obvious tax scam for additional grifting?
Maybe it has much more than her in the coffin? Right on Trump's property where he can guard it constantly from being exhumed?

WASF

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
87. No shit
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:15 PM
Aug 2022

and their actions were minute and petty compared to this shit.

We could sit down and literally list hundreds and hundreds of politicians and people, other than just the Trump Family Criminal Syndicate that were complicit and actually enabled these seditionist/treasonous crimes for years and years!

I would start with the Republicans in the U.S. House and U.S. Senate, the entire Trump administration at any and all levels, including his hand picked cabinet members, Agency Heads, and several U.S. Military commanders/generals.

I would start the list with Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham..................

Regardless of the technical definition of Treason, this was an outright overt act to overthrow Democracy and our Federal Government by a group of people.........Treason.......not some lesser named crime. Just like these same people calling the J6 INSURRECTION, "a group of tourists "just visiting" our nation's capitol".......

I had always believed that Treasonists were given the Death Penalty just like the Rosenbergs. On a scale of 1 to 100, comparatively the Rosenbergs were a one, and all these want to be Fascist Tyrants were 100 ........

WASF

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
91. I am mostly against the Death Penalty
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:46 PM
Aug 2022

but due to the MAGNITUDE of all their actions on a continued basis for years and years in this case I have to disagree with you.....

It is not only their "actions" but their "Intent" and "certain" results if they had/ or do succeed in their goals.....

And, if they win, and the U.S. Population is reduced to the Top 1% and everyone else serfs and peasants?

No health care, no Social Security, No Medicare, No welfare, No food stamps, No minimum wage, No consumer protection, No FDA, No regulatory agency of any kind, barely affordable and meager food, ALL Real estate owned by Corporations and Oligarchs, and on and on and on??????????????


Their actions during the Covid epidemic alone were nothing less than Genocide.............

We are one millimeter away from a "Corporate Fascist Tyranny".......

Most of this group maliciously and painstakingly organized, orchestrated, and directly took part in this overthrow of Democracy and Our Nation, for over forty years.......The rest were present and actively enabling Trump and the Republican Party, especially the last four years.

At best, we should build a humongous Colorado SuperMax and sentence these hundreds and hundreds and hundreds all to life without parole. They are un-questionably all sub-human pieces of excrement........................

After just six months at Super Max, McVeigh begged and pleaded for the death penalty, and they did just that........

colorado_ufo

(5,733 posts)
86. It was a 10-pallbearer ash carry.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:09 PM
Aug 2022

Likely a lead-lined coffin to prevent x-ray investigation into the contents.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
90. Water tight and air tight??????
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:25 PM
Aug 2022

You are correct, ground penetrating radar can view what is inside the casket without exhuming it.........

And the FBI has ground penetrating radar...................I doubt the FBI would even be required to have a warrant in a cemetery, but on Trump owned golf course, they would probably have a hard time getting a search warrant to even use the Ground Penetrating Radar.......

I would still execute a no knock search warrant on Jared and Ivanka's domain........If for no other reason than to make them sweat along with Daddy dearest. And speaking of "others" sweating....... thx to the FBI for examining every single finger print on all the documents they confiscated last week and ALSO the documents gathered in June from Mar-a-lago.......

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
93. reportedly, payroll records for U.S. spies were in the documents.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:03 PM
Aug 2022

And so every enemy could possibly have the identities of our agents.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
94. Do you remember when the guy
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:40 PM
Aug 2022

who was with the nuclear inspectors and he dared talk to the press and told them that there was no yellowcake and that Cheney/Rumsfeld/Powell were all lying to sell their invasion of Iraq. He said invading Iraq was stupid, they didn't have anything except oil, (which was exactly why Cheney wanted Sadam/Iraq over thrown so Halliburton (his past employer) and other oil companies divide up the oil reserves in Iraq among themselves.....)

In retaliation, Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc in front of the press outed his wife as a CIA agent who was running a front business as an importer and exporter. Every foreign government dealing with her heard that!!!!!!!! We have no idea of who or how many CIA spies died because of that. Certainly anyone working for her, here or abroad for starters.............

So a listing of all our agents, world wide, with ANY agency, would be devastating to the U.S. and a death sentence for the spy....

Jared went down to the Saudi's with a briefcase and left it with them, not even spending the night, but returning immediately after the delivery. He came back with 150 million "loan" to bail out one of his real estate debacles from a bank that would have foreclosed on him the next week when he couldn't make the payment. Interestingly, on reliable source said that several members of the Royal family "Disappeared"????? the next week. Coincidence? I think not.

Grasswire2

(13,568 posts)
96. Jeebus what a mess.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:46 PM
Aug 2022

And we used to call the Bush-Cheney cabal the "Octopus" --- this is magnitudes worse.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
97. Bush/Cheney
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:50 PM
Aug 2022

were rank amateurs when compared to Trump, the Republican Party of today, the Repubs in the U.S. Senate and the Repubs in the U.S. House.........

And Daddy Cheney is JUST NOW coming out in defense of his daughter????????? WTF?????????? Hell, Cheney and his whole gang paved the way for all this shit, and has endorsed the Republicans all the way since........

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
103. The original name of the Iraq invasion was the mythical ...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:59 PM
Aug 2022
Operation
Iraqi
Liberation
They realize that the abbreviation of OIL was too obvious,
so they changed it to
Operation
Iraqi
Freedom

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
104. If true
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 12:09 AM
Aug 2022

very fitting and quite funny. Perfect in Fact........ Thx

Remember when Rummy stood in front of the press and said it would only cost three billion and the Iraqis would pay us back quickly out of oil profits???? And how the Iraqis people would greet us with flowers, throwing them at all the troops as we paraded thru bagdad???

How about when Colin Powell sold soul to get into the white boy club by telling us a picture of a worn out weed sprayer was a weapon of mass destruction..

The stupid Republican Voters that voted Bush/Cheney/Rumsfeld/etc in for a second term after that conflagration of bullshit, multiplied and now number 70 million believing anything Trump and the Republican Party and Republican Politicians tell them, no matter how far fetched the lie........

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
105. They don't understand that ...
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 12:16 AM
Aug 2022

Thou shall not bear false witness against thy neighbor

means don't lie.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
111. the nuclear inspector?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 08:12 AM
Aug 2022

I'm thinking maybe Scott Ritter?

His was one of very few voices that said there was no nuke making materials. I think he was a U.N. inspector at the time. I remember how sickening it was in the rush to "get those bastards that did this to us', to quote dik cheney.

I also remember McClatchy was the only major news outlet that even questioned the veracity of the grounds of the invasion.

And cheney and un-American NY Times stenographer Judith Miller had a cute little scam where cheney would feed her classified info that she published and cheney then quoted her stories because he could now talk about them because they were now public domain instead of classified.

And they all got away with it and are still enjoying their freedoms.

-90% Jimmy

EDIT: oh, yeah, also outing Valerie Plame, wife of Joe Wilson, who was also speaking out about Saddams almost non-existant nuclear program. Remember, folks, we didn't want the smoking gun to come in the form of a mushroom cloud. also, exposing Plame probably resulted in the deaths of informants she may have been working with.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
113. Bingo 90% !
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:09 AM
Aug 2022

Thank you.......Great summary........Everything comes back to me now !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

And just like Comey coming in at the last minute with the PURELY fabricated bullshit email lies that kept Hillary from winning,

The Republicans paraded Colin Powell into the picture and he was put at the front of the stage to tell the people that HE personally "confirmed" the BS lies about WMD being spewed by Cheney/Rummy. Powell displayed enlarged pictures of a long ago abandoned civilian weed sprayer in an old field, (LOL), which he said proved the existence of the Iraq WMD weapons. That, and along with some enlarged pictures of some discarded old aluminum tubes left over from somewhere, were enough to sway the public over just enough to the Republican's side......that enabled Cheney/Rumsfeld launched Desert Storm....


A lot of people, for some reason, thought they could trust Colin Powell's word......After Powell's infamous/nefarious Mai Lai? "Incident" they public should have known better..........

AND...... Colin Powell should have known better when dealing with the Republicans, that they would use and abuse him and then kick him to the curb. Which, is in fact, exactly what they did shortly after his Oscar winning performance.....He sooo much wanted to be accepted and approved into the Repub's White Boys Club, he thought that his testimony, backing up a major LIE would get him into the club for sure this time.......

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
120. its nice to be 68 years old
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 12:53 PM
Aug 2022

because you get a clear view of history because you lived through it. my political awareness sprouted in full bloom after the bogus incorrect bush v. gore decision in 2000. (or 2001?)

you can draw a straight line between that decision and the most recent outlawing abortion sc decision of 2 months ago.

-90% Jimmy

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
122. I am a few years ahead of you, 90%er
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 01:15 PM
Aug 2022

My focus dramatically increased with what the Republicans (HWBush) were corruptly doing before the Reagan/Carter election in 1980.
The Republican's actions before and immediately after the "appointment" of Reagan to the Presidency were by many people's definitions Treasonous. It truly was just as criminally egregious, probably more so, and not that much different from the 2000 and 2004 presidential elections. But like I said, the Republicans actions to win the election were considered by many to be Treason at the time. Then, of course, there was the 2016 election where Putin and Republicans "installed" Trump as president......in addition to a large number of U.S. Senators, and State Governors.

The USSC decision in 2010 called "Citizens United" was the #1 worst decision EVER for our Democracy, for our country.

I have been screaming from the roof tops about this shit ever since October of 1980????..........

I have often said that the best title for a set of books about the past 40+ years would be: WHILE THE NATION SLEPT

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
76. He's probably already made money on some OTHER documents
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:22 PM
Aug 2022

Last edited Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:02 PM - Edit history (1)

that had already left via Mar a lago in the last 5+ years.

DENVERPOPS

(8,810 posts)
95. He went down there almost every other weekend
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 09:46 PM
Aug 2022

for four years.............
I would guess it was un-fathomably more than "SOME" documents and/or "SOME" top secret info and that he probably already sold Billions of it to different governments around the world, and also GAVE a free copy of everything to his bestest buddy Putin. That way Putin would continue to screw with elections in the U.S.House and Senate for the next two elections in 2018 and 2020.

Folks, WASF

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
51. Trump's plan - Sell the documents, take the money, and flee
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:06 PM
Aug 2022

to a country where we can't touch him.

I an betting that was his plan.

Also betting that he has already sold some.

Should be a public hanging for this traitor and his accomplices.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
61. I'm hoping he can't hop on some yacht with a helicopter that takes him to Cuba where ...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:25 PM
Aug 2022

I would guess that our security services are looking at every escape whole that this traitor could use to get back in his bff's arms.

Not sure putine really wants to see him or his entourage, however. Whatever land/sea/air vehicle they use may go poof.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
66. There are other places he could go
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
Aug 2022

besides Russia. He might like the Middle East for a rich life style.

LiberalArkie

(15,713 posts)
75. I think that is why Biden had the latest Bin Laden co hart killed, just to show some people
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:16 PM
Aug 2022

something.

wnylib

(21,432 posts)
88. Maybe. But Al-Zawahiri has been on our hit list
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 07:20 PM
Aug 2022

since 2001, so I think Biden just took advantage of an opportunity to off him when it came up.

gldstwmn

(4,575 posts)
84. If he hangs the intelligence community out to dry there will be no place on this earth for him
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:55 PM
Aug 2022

to hide. I'm not just talking about our intelligence community either. What was in that document about the President of France?

COL Mustard

(5,897 posts)
119. I have a clearance that would allow me to view
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 11:29 AM
Aug 2022

Any of those documents. I don’t have access, I don’t have need to know, and I haven’t been read on for anything in that area, but I’m cleared. If I EVER was found with a classified document (even one) at my house, my clearance would be gone and my career would be over. I expect I’d have problems if I even had CUI data at home (the old FOUO for you other old timers). But classified? Forget it..I’d be toast. It’s interesting to me how people are pretzeling themselves for this ass. I hope it’s worth it.

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
33. Sounds like the damage is considerable.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:43 PM
Aug 2022

Worse every single day.

Good move by Congress. Lives are in danger.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
8. How much damage could have been done by Trump selling these particular documents?
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:43 PM
Aug 2022

Experts look at specific docs and make a determination about the amount of damage possibly done if our enemies got them, damage to US national security, etc.

For example someone from the CIA would look at the docs and estimate how much damage to their operations, including the death of CIA agents.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
20. Perhaps all kinds of tactical military and CIA information.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:06 PM
Aug 2022

Locations, names, types of weaponry, capability, blueprints, etc.

Codes are changed frequently, so hopefully that is OK.


yaesu

(8,020 posts)
45. When russia had a spy feeding them US intelligence during the Vietnam war their main goal
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:03 PM
Aug 2022

was to find out if the US would use nukes in Nam & they found out through their spies findings that the US wouldn't use nukes so they knew how far they could push the US, kind of like putin knows how far he can push the US over Ukraine.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
49. Very interesting.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:05 PM
Aug 2022

Yes that kind of information would be discussed at the Pentagon when doing war planning and strategy.

I am sure Putin has all of that intel by now.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
55. Putin is smart and he would have gotten as much intel asap when Trump was in the WH.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:10 PM
Aug 2022

Trump is a loose cannon and unpredictable.
And would sell to the highest bidder.

Putin knew he had to get the info as quickly as possible.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
30. or info about our submarines
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:21 PM
Aug 2022

The navy never gives out any information about our submarine service.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
52. Yes Naval nuke sub blueprints might be a high ticket item.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:06 PM
Aug 2022

Capabilities, missile bays locations, etc.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
62. or their location, capabilities, missions,
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:25 PM
Aug 2022

nada, except maybe to say we have subs and they are awesome.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
63. Yep exactly.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:30 PM
Aug 2022

As I recall Trump outed a US boomer sitting somewhere in the Yellow Sea between North Korea and Shanghai.

We can usually guess where US subs might be.
Wherever the Russian subs are.

pnwmom

(108,976 posts)
77. Don't forget documents that might be gone forever, that we don't even know about.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:23 PM
Aug 2022

All the DOJ knows about right now all the documents they're retrieved . . . not all the documents Trump may ever have taken.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
78. Right, I hope there are some document lists somewhere and they are being checked.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:27 PM
Aug 2022

But yes of course, there is most likely missing information.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
24. Republican's spines
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:08 PM
Aug 2022

"What the FBI Has Found thus far
The spines of 200 Republicans lawmakers."

And now with advances in electron microscope technology which can show us individual atoms, those Republican spines can be seen!

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
10. First they are going to turn ashen white.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:45 PM
Aug 2022

Then I hope they turn beet red and do something about it.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
40. Ha. Good one.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:53 PM
Aug 2022

But yes when national security experts look at the docs, we will know more about the extent of the damage.

And certainly yes, this could be bad, very bad.

HariSeldon

(455 posts)
67. Jay Bratt already has
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:39 PM
Aug 2022

He's the FBI chief of counterintelligence and he was there at Mar-a-Lago personally reviewing the documents collected.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
68. I don't suppose he will make any public statements.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:42 PM
Aug 2022

The American people need some reassurance, but maybe there is none to give.

Thanks for the info!

Lonestarblue

(9,971 posts)
44. That reminds me of the briefing early in Trump's term when Democratic members left and were
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:02 PM
Aug 2022

absolutely white faced. I remember Feinstein looking like a ghost. I think that may have been the briefing on Russian interference with the election and the possibility of Trump being a Russian asset. With his theft of top secret documents relating to nuclear topics, that is actually looking more likely. Putin would be especially interested in how many nuclear submarines we have, their firepower, and where they are.

There is just no reason other than nefarious purposes for Trump to take top secret documents that are not personal letters or mementos.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
60. The info may have come from a CIA spy close to Putin. One of Trump's assignments
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:25 PM
Aug 2022

from Putin was to reveal to him the name.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
64. Given how much the DoD and other departments have been infiltrated by trump/russian moles,
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:33 PM
Aug 2022

I'll bet that the evidence presented won't be the complete picture.

Some of the obvious late-term appointments by the traitor-tot were to hinder normal governance. There will probably be many more that have been embedded earlier - some even in prior administrations.

Mr.Bill

(24,282 posts)
9. The republican members of those committees
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:44 PM
Aug 2022

will say they have seen the damage assesment and it's no big deal. The people who voted for them will believe it.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
17. As one of the attractive blonde women on Fox News said...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:59 PM
Aug 2022

how could it be so damaging unless it actually contained the nuclear codes?

WarGamer

(12,436 posts)
12. of course not... the damage assessment will tip them off to what the FBI retrieved.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 03:49 PM
Aug 2022

They will run to tell Trump and Hannity and Carlson.

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
22. Let's be honest. This could be bad, very bad.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:06 PM
Aug 2022

Trump is capable of selling out the US to the highest bidder.

Evolve Dammit

(16,723 posts)
26. Who knows te extent of the damage over the last 6 years. Incalculable. WTF was he doing with the
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:12 PM
Aug 2022

classified docs for the last 2 years or the time he was in office? We will never know. He used his own phone. We (the people) have no idea, and he knew that going in. He planned the nefarious secrecy from day 1 and may well have been a Russian agent with Melania as his handler. WTF knows? But her emails......

Irish_Dem

(46,918 posts)
27. Yes we know Trump is capable of the most heinous crimes against the US.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:17 PM
Aug 2022

Between his addiction to making money and his hatred and anger towards the American people he could have done anything. When he lost the election he would want some revenge.

Prior to that it was about making money and paying off his debt to Putin.

Demanchor

(127 posts)
48. He didn't sell out to the highest bidder he sold out to everyone
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:05 PM
Aug 2022

He sold to everyone interested at their highest payment. Do you honestly think he only sold to the highest bidder?

Example: highest bidder is SA. Do you think this wasn’t also sold to Iran, North Korea, China and Russia and many more I can’t even fathom?

This is tfg he wants highest bidder but everyone else too.

The information in these documents have gone far and wide.

I only hope we have a plan b in place that these traitors living on American soil aren’t aware of.

vlyons

(10,252 posts)
28. So Republicans, chew on that bone for a while
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:19 PM
Aug 2022

Feinstein chairs the Senate committee. And Adam Schiff chairs the House Committee. I imagine that the committee will report out a some level of risk.

Hey Donny, You in deep do-do now.

aggiesal

(8,911 posts)
31. None of this would happen if the (R) were the majority ...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:37 PM
Aug 2022

because they would have control over both House & Senate Intelligence committees.
They either would not request it, or pull a DisBarr/Mueller and hide the report.

jaxexpat

(6,818 posts)
37. How serious could this be, really?
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 04:49 PM
Aug 2022

I mean, the whole government was pretty much a horribly tasteless joke cum flea market during Trump's term. There wasn't much lower for it to go. Surely those items vulnerable to Trump's well-known tendencies for mischief had been secured or had their potential threats mitigated over the last couple of years. If Trump has succeeded in parlaying some of the nation's intelligence assets into his sche............. alert

As I write this it occurs to me those documents may not have been so much for his profit but more as a fallout shelter for protection from his destiny, prosecution. They were a part and parcel of his personal security. He was/is running a tsunami-sized blackmail scenario wherein, until his power was/is neutralized, he was/is held at arm's length from prosecution and exposure as an international criminal of formidable lethality. Now, after much struggle and like a mirage, that power is evaporating. He is finally losing his get-out-of-jail-free card(s).

I wax fantastic (or maybe not) but I foresee an Erik Prince revelation of complicity or source of incrimination against TFG.
BTW, if it turns out differently it was all just good old anyway.

EndlessWire

(6,513 posts)
43. And, it's Saturday!
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:00 PM
Aug 2022

Trump's head is going to explode.

Think of all the money this spy is going to cost us.

kentuck

(111,079 posts)
50. Democrats should be very cautious with their questions, imo...
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:05 PM
Aug 2022

If they have some very important questions that they do not want shared with Donald Trump, they should request a written response or a one-on-one meeting with the DOJ. It is sad, but the Republicans cannot be trusted. (Remember Devin Nunes?)

Raven

(13,889 posts)
54. Maybe the Chairs should get the briefing and share it with others on their Committee at
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:10 PM
Aug 2022

their discretion.

Hermit-The-Prog

(33,328 posts)
56. Hair Twitler probably has no idea of the worth of the documents,
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:13 PM
Aug 2022

That thing may have grabbed whatever he could just in case it would elevate his stature in Pooty's eyes.

MontanaMama

(23,307 posts)
59. It occurred to me in the middle of the night that
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 05:24 PM
Aug 2022

we may not know the damage that could yet be done depending on who he gave/sold/leveraged our state secrets. There are bad actors who wish harm on Americans and they may wait until it suits them to strike. Salmon Rushdie comes to mind. It is my hope that those in the NSA, CIA, FBI etc will be working hard to shore up whatever vulnerabilities result from TFG’s treason.

NoMoreRepugs

(9,412 posts)
72. Intelligence Committee means Democrats only right? Cuz there
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:09 PM
Aug 2022

sure as shit aren’t any smart RePutinicans.

 

Dysfunctional

(452 posts)
83. I feel sorry for the poor members of our military and government agencies with high clearances.
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 06:48 PM
Aug 2022

There is a good possibility that they will be spending long hours redacting codewords on every page of every document or copying the documents without the codeword and having to stamp the new codewords on every page of every document then burning all the original documents. I worked in some buildings where we burned at least 10 bags every day just for routine stuff.

FakeNoose

(32,633 posts)
99. Yes, and besides that, many of their lives are endangered
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:24 PM
Aug 2022

By the time this is through, everyone in the US defense and intelligence organizations will absolutely hate Chump's guts. If they had any sense, they'd hate his already. But this is the undeniable proof.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
98. It's been posted Trump will never be sent to prision due to security issues & Secret Service detail
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 10:22 PM
Aug 2022

We can build one, just for him. He needs to be locked away where the sun doesn't shine, for the remainder of his miserable life!

crickets

(25,962 posts)
102. Here you go - House Democrats Ask Intelligence Chief to Assess Trump Documents
Sat Aug 13, 2022, 11:17 PM
Aug 2022
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/house-democrats-ask-intelligence-chief-to-assess-trump-documents/ar-AA10D1YZ

Original Bloomberg article:
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2022-08-13/house-democrats-ask-intelligence-chief-to-assess-trump-documents
No paywall: https://archive.ph/wip/CCniK

Two top House Democrats asked the US Director of National Intelligence to provide a “damage assessment” after the FBI said it seized highly classified documents at former President Donald Trump’s estate in Florida.

A classified briefing on the assessment’s progress is also sought “as soon as possible,” House Oversight Committee Chair Carolyn Maloney and Intelligence Committee Chair Adam Schiff said in a letter to DNI Avril Haines on Saturday.

They cited an unsealed court-authorized search warrant and the inventory of property recovered at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club that describe numerous classified documents he held, including “top secret/sensitive compartmented information,” among the most highly protected information in the US government.

“Even as the Justice Department’s investigation proceeds, ensuring that we take all necessary steps to protect classified information and mitigate the damage to national security done by its compromise is critically important,” the lawmakers said in the letter.


The letter:
https://intelligence.house.gov/uploadedfiles/2022-08-13.cbm_schiff_to_haines-dni_re_damage_assessment.pdf

cstanleytech

(26,281 posts)
110. I suspect Trump was thinking he would pull a Snowden and that is why he took what he did because
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 05:38 AM
Aug 2022

he is afraid of being arrested and going to prison.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
114. Shouldn't Republicans be barred from this Assessment?
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 10:19 AM
Aug 2022

Especially those known to be Trump cultists?

ecstatic

(32,685 posts)
116. Ikr? They're double agents at this point
Sun Aug 14, 2022, 11:08 AM
Aug 2022

They have no allegiance to the United States whatsoever.

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