Liberal Radio Host Thom Hartmann Suggests Saudi Arabia Paid $2 Billion to Trump Via Jared Kushner...

[JoeOtterbein]

...for Stolen Secret Payroll Info on American Spies

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By Caleb Howe Aug 13th, 2022, 5:40 pm

Liberal talk show host Thom Hartmann tweeted on Saturday his theory that ex-president Donald Trump stole personal information about American spies and sold that info to Saudi Arabia after a “bidding war” with Vladimir Putin for $2 billion, funneled through son-in-law Jared Kushner.

While some in media, including Mary Trump, have theorized that Kushner is the “mole” who gave Trump up to the FBI, Hartmann thinks Kushner could have been the go-between for Trump to sell the identities and personal information of American intelligence operatives.

Hartmann advanced his theory in the form of a rhetorical question, after positing that such information would be “exactly the kind of thing for which Putin or Saudi Arabia would pay the Trump family billions.”

“Was there a bidding war the Saudis won with their $2 billion to Jared?” he asked rhetorically as a way of floating his theory.

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Sounds about right to me.

[Grasswire2]

1. He did!

Payroll information for America's spies was in the documents stolen from Mar-a-Lago.

TREASON. Flat out TREASON

[sarcasmo]

2. How much more was funneled through the golf tournament at Bedminster?

[PatSeg]

30. Yes between the $2 billion to Jared

and the golf tournament, things are looking very fishy. These people aren't very subtle. The arrogance is stunning.

[azureblue]

44. The golf tournament

was a cover for the Saudis to pick up the nuclear documents they bought. That was why there was a sudden urgency or the FBI to grab the documents Trump stole. Who is going to notice a group of Saudi royals traveling with a huge entourage, golf clubs, etc.? Throw the docs into a suitcase, and no one is the wiser. Easy plan - send the kid over to SA, get them to "invest" in his "business", kid comes home, then do a golf tournament, sponsored by the Saudis, who stay at the Mar, as a cover. Perfect. Almost.

The scary part is who has Trump already sold classified document to?

[PatSeg]

49. It really is scary

I've also been wondering what he has already sold or passed on. You're right, that golf tournament was a perfect opportunity. Maybe that is why he looked like death warmed over. He was probably under a lot of stress.

I'm afraid to contemplate how much damage he may have already done behind the scenes. There is nothing the man won't do.

[mountain grammy]

45. Isn't it though

as if they honestly believe they are 100% above the law. absolutely astounding.

[PatSeg]

50. When people are allowed to get away

with criminal behavior for so long, they start to get careless as if nothing can ever touch them. I'm sure it will be their undoing.

[Takket]

3. duh

[Just A Box Of Rain]

4. Liberal? Pssst. How much did Putin pay Thom Hartmann

to appear on the Russia Today propaganda network?

Disqualifying!

[multigraincracker]

6. You have anything he said supporting Putin

or Russia? Feel free to post his propaganda you have.
He has been and is a long time member of DU. You might be in the wrong place.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

9. Putin had a plan to defeat HRC. Giving Hartmann a platform to stir shit

on the far-left was part of the plan. Hartmann worked for Russia Today. No getting around that.

I'm in exactly the right place. I support Democrats, including HRC.

Don't try to gaslight me.

[multigraincracker]

11. 3 months and 3 hidden post.

Have a nice trip.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

13. I don't work against my party.

[yaesu]

19. Yep, Thom is putins worse nightmare, highest rated progressive talk show, so "new" accounts attackin

him is very sus for sure.

[YoshidaYui]

31. Alerted

[ariadne0614]

21. +1

I've listened to Thom Hartmann for two decades, and he has never once given me a reason to question his integrity or the information he provides. On the rare occasions he gets a fact wrong, he always corrects himself.

[rubbersole]

39. He's the most informed person on any media platform.

Unquestionably honest and fair. Should be everybody's favorite. He's mine for the last eight years. Keeps me balanced politically. "To win the waterclooler wars."

[SalviaBlue]

8. Really? Again? Just stop.

He is well respected by liberals and progressives for good reason.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

10. Uh, no.

Many of us have good memories.

[multigraincracker]

12. Putin is pissed at him

and now trying to stir up crap on web sites.

[aeromanKC]

20. Damn RT got Ed Shultz too.

That pissed me off when he "defected". He was one of my favorites.

[Gaugamela]

24. Thanks for airing the tired canard that any leftist who is

blackballed from the US corporate-owned media monopoly and had a show on RT must therefore be a Russian agent. The Dalai Lama invited him to visit, as did Pope John II, so since we’re engaging in guilt by association they must be Russian agents too. Three decades ago Hartmann founded a home for abused children in New Hampshire — no doubt to brainwash them with Russian propaganda. Likewise the the numerous relief programs he helped to start in developing countries around the world. Another sinister plot to further the Russian cause. And his books on ADHD, or his anti-war activism in the 60s. Man, what a Russian dupe!

(BTW, this RT nonsense has been floating around here since 2015. It’s hardly original.)

[mountain grammy]

46. Thank you! Well said.

[SalviaBlue]

51. Thanks for this.

I have been aware of Hartmann for as long as I have been aware of DU (2002 ish). He is the real deal. I remember the lean years when it was hard to find a liberal voice. He has always been there. Fuck the detractors. They are uninformed as to the history of media.

[The Bopper]

33. Hartmann and other voices

Couldn’t get on American radio and TV because the corporate media were buying their outlets and cutting them off. As soon as they built an American network they all left. Sidenote, Russia never used anything pro-American that many were saying, so literally they were once again cut off even while you say they were on RT.

[Brainfodder]

5. In our dreams, the trials and executions of these monsters is imminent?

May his name be remembered like Santorum.

[AntiFascist]

7. What about nuclear technology?

On February 12, 2019, Senators Ed Markey, Jeff Merkley, and Rand Paul introduced a
bipartisan resolution requiring that any deal to share nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia block
the Kingdom from creating a nuclear weapon.

Despite these concerns, the White House appears to be proceeding. As recently as
February 12, 2019, the President reportedly met with nuclear power developers at the White
House to discuss sharing nuclear technology with Saudi Arabia.

Further investigation is needed to determine whether the actions being pursued by the
Trump Administration are in the national security interest of the United States or, rather, serve
those who stand to gain financially as a result of this potential change in U.S. foreign policy.

https://oversight.house.gov/sites/democrats.oversight.house.gov/files/Trump%20Saudi%20Nuclear%20Report%20-%202-19-2019.pdf

[Hortensis]

14. Il-liberal Hartmann is a liberal? Just maybe disreputable RWer Caleb Howe,

(as in formerly of RedState) was TRYING to insult liberals and Democrats by repeatedly calling Hartmann liberal and thus smearing us with this "theory"?

Frankly, I find it hard to pin Hartmann down as any LW type given how often he's taken for RW. Not many (any?) liberal Democrats have worked for Russian State media, helping them launder their propaganda to Americans either, though there's a long list of ANTI-Democratic leftists who have.

[paleotn]

34. Maybe I'm misunderstanding, but....

though I find Thom Hartman annoying much of the time and rarely if ever listen to his program, I doubt seriously if he's in league with Russian state media.

[Gaugamela]

37. Can you name a position that Hartmann has taken that would generally be

considered right wing?

[Farmer-Rick]

40. Yeah, Hartmann is left of left.

Bernie Sanders use to do a weekly brunch with Hartmann. Richard Wolff is a regular guest. Can you go further left then Hartmann?

He has some ideas that middle of the road liberals would not approve of but, I can't honestly think of a single RW thing he routinely supports.

[Gaugamela]

41. Exactly. Richard Wolff is a Marxist Economist. I get the feeling that there

are right wing trolls on DU who try to subtly muddy the waters by casting aspersions on leftist commentators. It’s a way of shifting the Overton window to the right.

[Farmer-Rick]

48. Yeah, I understand

And thanks for the new idea of the Overton window. I understand the concept of it but never knew what it was called.





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[brush]

15. Kushner could very well be the errand boy...

charged with delivering the government secrets to the Saudis and bring back the payoff...both in diplomatic pouches that aren't searched.

It's been reported Kushner got 2B from the Saudis for a hedge fund. trump could very well have a big ownership position in it.

[GreenWave]

16. You betcha.

Why would that semi-competent be gifted so much money?

My guess is the FBI pressed him on that and found out where things were in MAL.

[Justice matters.]

43. And now, it seems Ivankkka wants out of everything trumps org, bruhs included...

She wants to just care for her own family...

[Novara]

17. Sounds about right to me too.

[Celerity]

18. K & R

[Escurumbele]

22. Or something like that...I just hope the FBI gets to the bottom of it and the buffoon gets

his place in history within the chapter of traitors. He and Benedict Arnold side by side.

[wildman76]

23. Of course advanced nuclear secrets

[Fiendish Thingy]

25. IIRC, the $2B was start up *capital* for Jared's new investment firm.

In other words, the $2B still belongs to the Saudi’s, they’ve just parked it in Jared’s investment fund in order to create trust and attract other investors.

It would be easy enough to check with an audit.

[grantcart]

27. Exactly, see below

[grantcart]

26. Lol The Saudis would never use their Sovereign Fund for such a purpose

Public, transparent and accountable, not going to be a source for a massive bribe.

I could list 10 reasons why but let's just start with three

1) Sovereign funds are designed to facilitate public partnerships with outsiders. It may be news to some but the house of Saud has billions of dollars of private money that could have been used and not reported.

2) Kushner didn't get 2 Billion, he gets to buy equity ipre IPO businesses and guide them to stock market launch. His returns will be accountable and he will be in competition with other funds. If he doesn't perform with 30% return he will lose the fund. The look at 100 companies to invest in one.

3) Trump', quite obviously, would never let go of such a huge asset so someone else would get a benefit, even a share.

Trump didn't intend to sell the secrets but to trade them for some other country to use their intelligence service to help get elected in 2024.

[kentuck]

28. Does Thom still post on DU?

I'm sure he could answer for himself.

[paleotn]

32. Saudi wants to be a nuclear power to counter their arch enemy, Iran.

[Sogo]

35. Was this information in the materials seized at ML?

I can't keep it all straight....!

[ForgedCrank]

47. who knows,

it's starting to sound like a tabloid headline feed around here lately.

[Joinfortmill]

36. Now, this is interesting

[FakeNoose]

38. Jared was always the "bribe collector" since Day One

However I'd be interested in what Thom Hartmann KNOWS vs. how much is he guessing? We can all GUESS the same thing, but who can prove it - that's the question.

I really, really hope that Thom Hartmann has the evidence.

[Rhiannon12866]

42. Same here. Sounds like a viable supposition.