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Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:30 PM

DeSantis flipped school boards last night

Perhaps lost in all the other elections. 21 out of 30 candidates for local school boards in Florida supported by DeSantis won their races with four others headed to run offs.

Local elections matter, even though national races get all the media oxygen.

I think a lot of this is Covid policy backlash. Parents were not nearly as keen on distance schooling as the teachers were. It's been like that even here in the Bay Area. Districts that supported longer stay at home policies faced much more backlash in their elections.

A lot of the battles people spend a lot of time on social media discussing on a national level get played out concretely in their backyards. Maybe time to focus more on that, or there will be more DeSantis and more changes like this.

https://www.politico.com/news/2022/08/23/desantis-school-board-candidates-wins-00053440

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Reply DeSantis flipped school boards last night (Original post)
Sympthsical Aug 2022 OP
Phoenix61 Aug 2022 #1
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #3
TheRealNorth Aug 2022 #2
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #4
Jose Garcia Aug 2022 #24
JohnSJ Aug 2022 #5
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #8
JohnSJ Aug 2022 #10
Historic NY Aug 2022 #6
Gregory Peccary Aug 2022 #12
Runningdawg Aug 2022 #14
In It to Win It Aug 2022 #7
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #11
alphafemale Aug 2022 #17
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #18
alphafemale Aug 2022 #20
Sympthsical Aug 2022 #21
onenote Aug 2022 #23
alphafemale Aug 2022 #29
onenote Aug 2022 #30
alphafemale Aug 2022 #31
onenote Aug 2022 #32
brush Aug 2022 #9
jimfields33 Aug 2022 #16
brush Aug 2022 #19
Timeflyer Aug 2022 #25
brush Aug 2022 #33
RAB910 Aug 2022 #13
LisaM Aug 2022 #15
Biophilic Aug 2022 #22
TheRealNorth Aug 2022 #26
Biophilic Aug 2022 #28
JCMach1 Aug 2022 #27

Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:33 PM

1. Too many people don't come out for the primaries.

Happily my local 1776 backed candidate lost. The other isnít a lot better but Ö.

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Response to Phoenix61 (Reply #1)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:37 PM

3. People have been discussing Florida schools nonstop all year

Because of the policies DeSantis has implemented.

And after all that time on social media "fighting" against it, people didn't show up to vote.

Maybe less digital fighting. Last time I checked, we didn't run elections over Twitter.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:36 PM

2. The average person probably doesn't follow the school board candidates....

And information can be hard to find. So if the MAGATS are uniting behind a single candidate while the other candidates are splitting up the remaining votes, they are going to have an advantage.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:39 PM

4. But there was a lot of focus on school boards in Florida

With Covid and DeSantis' "anti-woke" push in schools. I have no idea what is going on in school districts in other states, but I know all about what's happening in Florida because of the extensive MSM and social media coverage.

So I just don't think there's much excuse for this kind of failure.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #2)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 02:57 PM

24. There is a runoff in November if no one gets a major

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:39 PM

5. Will Floridians be bothered by this to vote Democratic?

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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #5)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:42 PM

8. Better late than never, one supposes

Of course, most of these changes probably won't take effect before November.

However, maybe there will be just enough awareness of, "Oh shit, this happened," to alter course. Like Dobbs on a local scale.

I suppose we'll see.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #8)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:46 PM

10. No doubt we will see, but as an outsider, this adds to the list of desantis' draconian policies

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:39 PM

6. They won't be able to get any teachers if this continues.

Florida is going to be dumber than the dumbest state. West Virginia

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:47 PM

12. Floridumb

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Response to Historic NY (Reply #6)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:48 PM

14. Shutting down public schools is their goal. Next up preschools.

And just like that women are back at home where they should be. #winning

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:40 PM

7. I kinda agree on the COVID backlash

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Response to In It to Win It (Reply #7)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:47 PM

11. I housed two nephews during all that

Because their single mom is a nurse, and we both work from home.

Those kids were not learning a damn thing that whole year. We both watched their schooling like hawks, particularly my partner who is Stern Uncle with the kids' education. Eventually we were giving them things to do, because there were entire days of just nothing much going on. And this wasn't just at first. This went through the whole year.

Some teachers honestly seemed like they were having the best of times on vacation. "Here, watch this YouTube video and answer a couple questions about it!" That was the class. Oh, we were pissed. And when vaccines came and it was time to get back to school, the teachers fought it tooth and nail until enough parents started threatening the school board come election time.

Sorry, peeps. Laptops in pajamas time is over.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #11)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:14 PM

17. How were you not able to educate grade school age kids?

 

It is very general basic stuff.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #17)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:16 PM

18. They're in high school

And ostensibly being prepared for college.

So, there is that.

And are you saying we don't really need teachers if we can just do it ourselves?

Interesting.

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Response to Sympthsical (Reply #18)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:29 PM

20. I would need help on the higher math.

 

But, I think I did better at literature and history education throughout my time with my kids than any school ever did.

No one wants to offend the racists at school.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:49 PM

21. You're arguing against the necessity of teachers, though

Which, hey. Homeschooling is a thing. And there are some incredibly intelligent wunderkin who have been home schooled.

If I had the time, I could probably get through most homeschooling. I'm back in college now for a career change, and I'm finding it a breeze. I was helping a nephew with his chemistry homework last spring because I myself was doing chemistry at the time. It was some nice symmetry.

But if that kid comes at me with AP Calculus this year, we're both screwed.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #20)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:59 PM

23. Trying to recall if I've ever seen an anti-public school teacher post on DU. A first for everything.

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Response to onenote (Reply #23)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 05:37 PM

29. And you still haven't

 

Keep inventing reasons to hate in your head though.

I was just talking with someone how they taught during COVID

Most people were home schooling.

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #29)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 05:49 PM

30. So this comment wasn't a slam on public school teachers?

"I think I did better at literature and history education throughout my time with my kids than any school ever did." (Emphasis added).

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Response to onenote (Reply #30)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 06:10 PM

31. Whatever honey

 

Float in it

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Response to alphafemale (Reply #31)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 06:16 PM

32. You have a wonderful evening darling.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:45 PM

9. Teachers were trying to save themselves from covid.

I don't blame them.

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Response to brush (Reply #9)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:02 PM

16. That was nice but doctors, nurses, grocery store workers and millions of others

had to manage. The losers in this were the students. I doubt many will ever catch up.

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Response to jimfields33 (Reply #16)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:24 PM

19. So you don't think adult teachers, much more susceptible...

to covid than kids, should not have tried to protect themselves in schools we all know are Petri dishes for breeding and spreading diseases, and when many winger parents wouldn't even put masks on their kids?

That makes a lot of sense.

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Response to brush (Reply #19)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 03:25 PM

25. DeathSatan was ok with teachers dying on the job

as long as FL economy made him look good and bully posturing made him seem tough. Remember how he told kids to take off those masks for his photo op? People who think teachers enjoyed having to learn a whole new online way of teaching, on the fly, in the middle of a pandemic, may not remember the COVID death counts.

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Response to Timeflyer (Reply #25)

Thu Aug 25, 2022, 07:00 PM

33. Yes, I don't get how some of these people think.

People in many lines of work were getting covid and dying all over the country, but teacher weren't supposed to protect themselves?

Nuts.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 12:47 PM

13. in NJ one of these types of board members had to drop out

because of his Nazi-like comments against Jewish people

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:02 PM

15. Yeah, we need to pay attention to these races.

This is where endorsements matter hugely. I can't keep track of every school board candidate, but the teachers' union can. So I study their endorsements.

Same with judges - they are a bunch of names to me, usually. But an organization like QLaw keeps tabs and when gay marriage was at stake - and maybe will be again - they are often my go-to for researching judges.

Looks as if this cycle, I will also see who NARAL endorses.

Not a perfect system, but since I don't miss elections, I use the tools that are out there.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 01:57 PM

22. Where I live in Florida the area was saturated with advertisements for the 3 republican

candidates. Many of which were put out a couple of months ago. I saw 1 place that had signs for the 3 democratic candidates. I'm relatively new in the area, moved late last fall. I honestly was really surprised by how little promotion was done. I don't know enough about the area to know if that is normal or if something is off for the democrats in my area.

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Response to Biophilic (Reply #22)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 04:35 PM

26. Here in MN, I have relied on the Teacher Union endorsements..

But I imagine that in places where teacher's unions are weak or non-exisitent, that info may not be available.

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Response to TheRealNorth (Reply #26)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 05:01 PM

28. I just haven't lived here long enough to know.

This school board election is lost. Donít know how bad it will get. A lot depends who ends up as governor.

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Response to Sympthsical (Original post)

Wed Aug 24, 2022, 04:46 PM

27. Not Desantis... National Astroturf groups have targeted School Board

Races with countless millions. One district in TX, for example, had more money at play than a congressional race.

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