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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMr. ATTORNEY GENERAL, respectfully:
I believe that there is one very important factor that needs to be more thoughtfully considered when deciding what action is appropriate with regard to Donsld Trump's actions in and out of office. It is the opposite of a technicality. Most everyone understands it.
"Justice delayed is justice denied".
I believe that a corrosive attitude is seeping into public opinion and it is eroding public respect for the law and government in general. That attitude can be summed up as "Trump---and any other wealthy/powerful person---can break any law he wants and get away with it! 'Equal Justice' is a damn lie!"
I understand that there have always been cynics and that much of what planted the seeds for this corrosive attitude occurred before you were AG, but most look to you to "achieve justice" and believe that the danger of inaction is existential for our democracy.
I want you to succeed. I respect both your competence and your integrity. I merely suggest that the attitude I described above exists and is growing and that there is a "tipping point" beyond which your best efforts will be insufficient to restore public respect for our legal system.
Stuart G
(38,410 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)way of thinking. We are almost there, I think.
Tetrachloride
(7,813 posts)justice delayed is justice denied and that caution by AG Garland is delaying.
I am in the hurry up camp, usually.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)That being, this is a political stunt meant to influence the voters at the ballot box in November.
Now, you know and I know that that is total and utter bullshit. The DOJ filing from yesterday details that Trump was first made aware of NARA's request for the boxes of documents last year and that he stonewalled and ignored and basically taunted the feds until they finally had no choice but to swear out a search warrant and collect them themselves.
But that's not how they're spinning it, and when you have 70 million cultists believing their lies, you can't fuel them any further.
I want Trump to be indicted for a myriad of crimes the day after mid-terms. The day after. That, too, would send a very strong signal.
panader0
(25,816 posts)Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)They'd say an indictment against Trump is an indictment against every GOP candidate running in the mid-terms, particularly those he's endorsed. Every single one of them would play the victim card. If you can't win, whine.
I don't agree, but it needs to be weighed against the "justice delayed, justice denied" scenario. I have faith in Garland and I'm certain he'll make the proper decision.
Scrivener7
(50,901 posts)That should not be a factor in his actions.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,699 posts)That is who they are.
No doubt Kevin McCarthy will go after Merrick Garland for this. THAT would be Political despite the obvious crimes TDFG committed and lied about.
panader0
(25,816 posts)magicarpet
(14,113 posts).... by loading the Supreme Court with hyper Christian-Fascists was bad enough. The sole remaining pillar of American justice depends entirely on the Department of Justice and the Office of Attorney General to protect and defend our Constitutional Democracy.
The courts have been dangerously filled with religious and political reactionaries and operatives.
And they ain't done yet. State district courts, State appellate courts, and State supreme courts are currently being flooded with Christian-Fascist judicial nominations to these benches too. The goal is near total complete makeover of our courts by religiously inspired fascistic judges who are willing to trample our rights and freedoms.
brooklynite
(94,302 posts)Atticus
(15,124 posts)brooklynite
(94,302 posts)If you have evidence that prosecution is being "delayed", please enlighten us.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,229 posts)A little knowledge is a dangerous thing.
I have no data on the subject, but it seems to me that a lot more justice has been denied by rushing to judgment on the basis of insufficient knowledge than by taking time to acquire the knowledge necessary for successful prosecution.
Cavalierly claiming justice denied to refer to due process taking its due course trivializes the phrase. Showing no apparent reason other than impatience to make this claim renders it meaningless.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)stated my respect for the AG and his competence.
But, to simply trivialize the attitude does nothing to change it or reduce its corrosive effect.
Beastly Boy
(9,229 posts)Still, since you featured the phrase justice delayed is justice denied in a post directed at the AG, I surmised that you are connecting the aforementioned corrosive effect directly to him.
There is no evidence of undue delays in the DOJ investigation. There is no evidence that Garland is responsible for any of these presumed delays. There is no evidence of any corrosive effect that can be attributed to Garland as a consequence of these presumed delays. There is no evidence that justice had been denied to anyone as a consequence of these presumed actions by the AG for the duration of these presumed delays that could possibly be connected to any presumed corrosive effects
And I am not sure why you have used the phrase trivialize the attitude or who and what it refers to
Atticus
(15,124 posts)corrosive effect.
Further, I was also puzzled by YOUR use of "trivialize".
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)I really doubt hes reading DU.
Atticus
(15,124 posts)llmart
(15,532 posts)I believe that ship has already sailed and it's not Merrick Garland's fault. Our country's sense of who receives justice and who doesn't is cemented in a lot of history. It's the reason Trump's been able to skate on so much in his lifetime even before he became president. Money talks. Not all judges/cops/FBI agents/politicians are upstanding citizens who believe in the rule of law. I do believe that Merrick Garland is someone who lives by the credo that no one is above the law.
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