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Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:27 AM Jan 2012

Nate Silver: One reason the Reuters/Ipsos poll may be skewed:

Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight)
1/14/12 5:20 PM
FYI: Reuters/Ipsos poll showing huge lead for Romney in SC was (i) conducted online and (ii) was registered rather than likely voters.

I don't believe these results truly reflect the GOPeas who will vote.

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Nate Silver: One reason the Reuters/Ipsos poll may be skewed: (Original Post) Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 OP
I don't, either. I think the attacks on Bain are hurting Romney. highplainsdem Jan 2012 #1
The poll showed a 21 point lead for Romney. DCBob Jan 2012 #2
"It ain't over 'til it's over." Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #3
For sure.. but seems the momentum is on Willards side. DCBob Jan 2012 #4
"Aye, there's the rub." Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #5
Rasmussen also has Romney up significantly. DCBob Jan 2012 #6
Rasmussen sucks to put it delicately. nt Are_grits_groceries Jan 2012 #7
Yeah, especially when polling Democrats.. DCBob Jan 2012 #8
Agreed customerserviceguy Jan 2012 #10
The same poll has Romney beating Obama by just 46-40 in South Carolina aaaaaa5a Jan 2012 #9
It's impossible to get a random sample by polling online Hippo_Tron Jan 2012 #11

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
2. The poll showed a 21 point lead for Romney.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:31 AM
Jan 2012

Even if skewed a bit it seems Willard is heading for a decisive win.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
3. "It ain't over 'til it's over."
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:41 AM
Jan 2012

Yogi Berra

He may win by a lot. However, his problem is the vote is on Saturday. That's a long time to hold this lead. It is an eternity.

I heard that somebody pushed the fat lady down a long flight of stairs.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
4. For sure.. but seems the momentum is on Willards side.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 09:51 AM
Jan 2012

But he could surely screw it up with some dumb comment between now and the vote.

Are_grits_groceries

(17,111 posts)
5. "Aye, there's the rub."
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:03 AM
Jan 2012

Can Mittens keep the momentum or just stay in place?

The longer it goes the more time for him to say or do something stupid. In addition, I would pay cash money to know what is going on in the dark back rooms and basements of the AntiMitts. It ain't pretty.

Even if he does win, he can't take the South as a given. Those evangelical leaders who endorsed Santorum are a formidable and hateful bunch.

He will have to continue to spend some time back in the South as he has to tack more towards the middle for the general election. I don't think he will lose the South, but he will have to spend valuable time here.

DCBob

(24,689 posts)
6. Rasmussen also has Romney up significantly.
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:06 AM
Jan 2012

The latest Rasmussen Reports telephone survey of Likely Republican Primary Voters in South Carolina finds Romney ahead with 28% support, but now former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is in second place with 21% of the vote. Support for former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum who was in second a week ago has fallen back to 16%, putting him dead even with Texas Congressman Ron Paul who also earns 16%.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/south_carolina/election_2012_south_carolina_republican_primary

He also has a huge lead in Florida..

Coming off his decisive win in Tuesday’s New Hampshire Primary, Romney earns 41% support with former House Speaker Newt Gingrich a distant second at 19%. A new telephone survey of Likely Florida Republican Primary Voters finds former U.S. Senator Rick Santorum running third with 15% of the vote.

http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2012/election_2012_presidential_election/florida/2012_florida_republican_primary

I really think its over.

customerserviceguy

(25,183 posts)
10. Agreed
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 08:06 PM
Jan 2012

I actually give Rasmussen a lot more credulity than most people here, and yes, especially when they're polling GOP'ers.

If Romney does win SC and FL, then you can give the credit or blame to the fact that a lot of Northeastern baby boomers have moved to those states, and taken their political sensibilities with them. That, and the fact that Willard has played "divide and conquer" quite well. Expect him to try it on the entire electorate.

Hippo_Tron

(25,453 posts)
11. It's impossible to get a random sample by polling online
Sun Jan 15, 2012, 10:10 PM
Jan 2012

It's hard enough to get one over the phone, considering that your sample only consists of people who are willing to take the time to respond to a pollster, whereas many people don't answer or just hang up. And yes registered versus likely voters is another problem, especially given that turnout in primaries is much lower than in general elections.

This "poll" isn't worth the paper it's printed on. That said, Willard will be the Republican nominee regardless of what this poll says and regardless of how he does in South Carolina.

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