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BlueGreenLady

(2,824 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:11 AM Sep 2022

Top Secret Security Question

Does the US President automatically get access to any and all classified documents immediately upon taking office? If so Shouldn't all presidential candidates have to be able to pass the most high level security clearance even before running for President? Sorry if I missed previous discussions about this.

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Raven123

(4,828 posts)
1. Passing security clearance is not a Constitutional requirement.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:15 AM
Sep 2022

I believe the President has access to all classified documents

Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
5. NARA is the archivist for all the Presidential documents. The documents in question, AFAIK,
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:25 AM
Sep 2022

would have come from the IC or DOD agencies to the WH. The Trump Admin just decided not to give them back or Donnie just absconded with what was at hand at the end of his term. I am guessing the assessment on the documents will get to the bottom of that chain of custody issue. I would also assume they want to know where they were exposed at any given point in the chain or its journey to Mar a Lago.

RockRaven

(14,958 posts)
2. Because the power to classify/declassify is ultimately a presidential one, there is no test or
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:16 AM
Sep 2022

threshold that applies to the presidency itself. POTUS calls the shots on classification, no subordinate of POTUS has power to gate-keep the boss except to the extent that POTUS willingly allows them to.

getagrip_already

(14,708 posts)
3. The constitution lists the requirements for office....
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:17 AM
Sep 2022

It doesn't include a security clearance. You can't screen candidates prior to election. What would happen if republicans passed a law that said all candidates had to be approved by a gop controlled panel?

And yes, the potus automatically gets access to all secrets. They become the ultimate arbiter to what is classified and what isn't, but their is a process backed up by law.

It's not a perfect system. It assumes the potus holds the best interests of the country as sacred.

dclarston13

(410 posts)
6. When the constitution the security risks were different
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:36 AM
Sep 2022

Now the numbers and types of threats are vast, as we see with the TFG mess. In my opinion, there certainly should be a rigorous vetting process.
Personally almost every job I ever had for the past 40 yrs required some sort of background check, drug tests, and in some cases pych analysis, and I am a nobody.

Towlie

(5,324 posts)
7. If the nation's secrets can be concealed from the president then who is their ultimate custodian?
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 11:54 AM
Sep 2022

 
?

That can't work. Even when the president is a jerk it's obvious that someone has to have access to the nation's secrets, and if not the president then whom?

This reminds me of the character Albert Nimzicki in Independence Day, an advisor who knew the truth about Area 51 but explained that it was concealed from the president for "plausible deniability". Who decided to conceal it?

Deep State Witch

(10,424 posts)
8. "Customer #1"
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:26 PM
Sep 2022

Has access to all classified documents upon becoming POTUS.

However, requiring someone to pass the minimum standards for a Secret clearance is unlikely. One of the many issues the Old White Dudes that I used to work with had with Bill Clinton is that he wouldn't have gotten a security clearance because of MJ use and extramarital affairs.

That being said, TFG would not have gotten a clearance because of his numerous foreign business ties, known connections to organized crime, and multiple extramarital affairs, including sex-for-hire.

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