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TFG's lawyers made this statement in their filing on Wednesday:
TFG appointed 3 of the 6 SCOTUS justices that ruled that there is no right to privacy.
mopinko
(70,086 posts)brooklynite
(94,503 posts)Its his registered address in Florida.
sanatanadharma
(3,699 posts)Mar a Lago is a mailing address like a PO box.
Mar a Lago is like an Air B&B. It can not be a 365/24 house, home, or resort.
He breaks the legal agreement, to which he committed, if he lives there rather than simply visits.
Breaking laws, contracts, covenants, and countries is not justification for breaking laws, contracts, co.venants, and countries.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)The question of whether he could live there full time came up in 2021. The municipal Government decided that he could.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/09/us/trump-palm-beach-mar-a-lago.html
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)allegorical oracle
(2,357 posts)year and that's when he heads back up north to other properties. It was a compromise with the municipal govt.
onenote
(42,699 posts)iemanja
(53,031 posts)It is legally his home. That, however, doesnt mean he can conduct criminal activity in that home without consequence.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)By the contract TFG signed when he converted Mar-A-Lago from a private residence to a club, no one, mombers or TFG (and family) is supposed to stay there for any serious length of time:
The deal he struck made it clear that no one could live permanently at the property. It stated that the guest suites could be used only by members for a maximum of three times a year for no longer than seven days at a time, and that those seven-day stays couldnt be strung together consecutively.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/lifestyle/style/trump-made-florida-his-official-residence-he-may-have-also-made-a-legal-mess/2020/05/07/17d53fb2-849c-11ea-878a-86477a724bdb_story.html
Now he's claimed he is an "employee" of the club and can live there indefinitely.
Randolph also advised that under the town's zoning code, private clubs can provide living quarters to a "bona fide employee."
Under evidence provided to the town, Trump is a bona fide employee of Mar-a-Lago, Randolph concluded.
The town defines "employee" as "any person generally working onsite for the establishment and includes sole proprietors, partners, limited partners, corporate officers and the like."
https://www.palmbeachdailynews.com/story/news/2021/05/07/trump-maralago-florida-employee/4944038001/
mopinko
(70,086 posts)csziggy
(34,136 posts)A club is limited to the number of members and how often and long the members can stay.
Yonnie3
(17,432 posts)I'll include the sarcasm thingy here
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)Hermit-The-Prog
(33,328 posts)Warpy
(111,245 posts)I think men still have a right to privacy. Women don't have rights to anything, not even their own bodies.
Hermit-The-Prog
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SergeStorms
(19,195 posts)has stolen state secrets, for whatever purpose, and refuses to return them to the National Archives where they belong.
Such a homeowner is to be considered a criminal whose rights are suspended until the situation is adjudicated.
Laura PourMeADrink
(42,770 posts)Thomas Hurt
(13,903 posts)The FBI had a search warrant issued by a judge after the judge was shown probable cause to search.
ashredux
(2,604 posts)justhanginon
(3,290 posts)onenote
(42,699 posts)What they said was that Roe "conflated" two different concepts of privacy: the right to shield information from disclosure and the right to make and implement important personal decisions without governmental interference.
The former, spelled out in the Fourth Amendment, was not impacted by Dobbs.
pnwmom
(108,977 posts)Their ruling wouldn't affect Trump's situation.
Red Pest
(288 posts)AMENDMENT IV
The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.
With the above in mind: 1) Was there a warrant issued that particularly described the place(s) to be searched and the things to be seized? YES
2) Was this supported by an affirmation? Again YES.
Privacy? Privacy is a given until the government does what is described in the 4th Amendment to obtain a warrant. This is NOT rocket science. This is just a case of the government providing evidence to a judge that the person (TFG) is likely to have something to which he is not entitled/which he has stolen and that it is being kept in a certain place or places. Then armed with that warrant the government goes to that place(s) and presents the warrant and goes in a does the lawful search and seizure.
Guess what, all that was done and Orange Pustule was found to have these very things...and he lied about having them, but then he compounds it by saying that he is entitled to have them.
It is time to assemble the case and indict the schmuck.