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Nevilledog

(51,069 posts)
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 01:40 PM Sep 2022

Republicans learn the hard way that sex is still popular



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Republicans are scrambling to conceal how radically anti-choice their views are. It really shows that, despite all the finger-wagging about "liberal bubbles," it's Republicans who are out of touch with ordinary Americans. (Who like having sex.)

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Republicans learn the hard way that sex is still popular
Inside the great GOP abortion backpedal
10:27 AM · Sep 1, 2022


https://www.salon.com/2022/09/01/the-great-abortion-backpedal-slowly-realize-they-live-in-a-partisan-bubble/

The Republican Party line on abortion has long been standard: The value of a fertilized egg far outweighs the value of a living, breathing woman. Is this unwanted pregnancy interfering with your education plans, your ability to leave an abusive relationship, or threatening to kill you? Too bad! So deeply do Republicans value that mindless embryo that your entire life must be upended — or even ended — to preserve that precious ball of cells. But while Republicans may sacrifice the lives and futures of women to preserve embryonic life, when it comes to their own political ambitions, the calculus suddenly changes.

As reporter Areeba Shah detailed for Salon Wednesday, a whole bunch of Republicans are suddenly discovering their "deeply felt" love of embryonic life isn't quite so deep as their desire to win their elections come November. GOP campaign websites are being scrubbed of language affirming a candidate's wish to force 10-year-old rape victims to give birth. Accusations that the over 800,000 abortion patients a year are guilty of "genocide" are being shoved down the memory hole. Candidates, like Peter Thiel-boosted Senate hopeful Blake Masters, once bragged about how they'd ban abortion before the pregnancy test even registers positive. Now Masters is pretending his interest is limited to "very late-term and partial-birth abortion" only.

It's all lies, of course.

Republican-controlled state legislatures are stampeding towards ever more draconian abortion bans, ones that are so fulsome that they prevent miscarrying women from getting treatment, force those with ectopic pregnancies to lose ovaries, and keep postmenopausal patients from getting basic gynecological care. But in order to enact a reign of terror over anyone with a uterus, first Republicans must get elected. And, as they're increasingly starting to realize, most voters aren't that keen on politicians who agree with a recent Students for Life tweet: "Consent to sex is consent to pregnancy."

Basic common sense should have suggested most Americans actually prefer to live in a country where having a perfectly ordinary sex life does not require playing Russian roulette with your future. Research done by the Guttmacher Institute two decades ago showed that "[a]lmost all Americans have sex before marrying" — 95% do, in fact. It's a number that's likely only risen since then. Most people start having sex in late adolescence and continue doing so for the rest of their lives. Nearly all of them would like to have sex more than they would like to have babies. Marriage doesn't change that fact. Nothing does. Most people have sex thousands of times over the course of their lives, but most women have fewer than 2 children in a lifetime. Keeping things that way means having access to contraception and abortion. With the Roe overturn, Republicans are already taking away the latter and, as Justice Clarence Thomas' broadside against contraception rights made clear, they look to be coming for birth control next.

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Republicans learn the hard way that sex is still popular (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
Cruelty begins at conception central scrutinizer Sep 2022 #1
Most people have sex '1000's of times', as in multiple 1000's? Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #2
that makes 2 of us. mopinko Sep 2022 #3
the 70s and 80s are just a blur of orgies. ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #12
That might make a full accounting afa 'lifetime totals' go ... quite complex Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #13
I remember when Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have had 20,000 Wednesdays Sep 2022 #22
K&R, I've been saying for decades Republicans don't ... really ... like sex. uponit7771 Sep 2022 #4
Which works out cuz no one wants to have sex with Republicans. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #6
maybe once for the right price rurallib Sep 2022 #20
The absolutely like sex for themselves Cosmocat Sep 2022 #7
true, I'll change that the majority of republicans don't like really like sex uponit7771 Sep 2022 #11
I suspect their personalities, shortcomings, and hangups get in the way of a good time. Probatim Sep 2022 #14
+1, uponit7771 Sep 2022 #15
Great take on the obvious. lindysalsagal Sep 2022 #5
I'm curious to see how the backpedaling will affect anti-choice Republican voter enthusiasm. Sky Jewels Sep 2022 #8
People Are Still Having Sex? Coventina Sep 2022 #9
Beat me to it musette_sf Sep 2022 #10
Stay angry... Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #16
If they didn't think about any of this before, it's because they don't think we're worth thinking Warpy Sep 2022 #17
All the cam model and porn sites ads hadn't clued me in just yet, THANKS REPUBLICANS! Brainfodder Sep 2022 #18
Yes people still like to have sex... they just don't want to have it with * YOU * liberalla Sep 2022 #19
It's the religions that have the real problem with sex. Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #21
Almost as if some men's fear of/strong aversion to supporting someone else's offspring GopherGal Sep 2022 #23
 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
2. Most people have sex '1000's of times', as in multiple 1000's?
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

Geesh, I'm 55 and always been pretty damn slutty, but ... guess I'ma hafta get after it while there's still time

Sorry to joke about a serious subject, but, of course, fuck these asshole RePuQ's and their (situational) adherence to the magical scribblings of Bronze Age nomads

mopinko

(70,076 posts)
3. that makes 2 of us.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:29 PM
Sep 2022

sooo much lost time....

they might not get it cuz their favorite partner is rosie palm. i've known those guys. they're on both sides of the aisle, but...

Wednesdays

(17,342 posts)
22. I remember when Wilt Chamberlain claimed to have had 20,000
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 09:01 PM
Sep 2022

sex partners over his lifetime. It raised a few eyebrows, but no one flat out called him a liar about that statistic.

Cosmocat

(14,562 posts)
7. The absolutely like sex for themselves
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:39 PM
Sep 2022

Its them wanting to keep others from it that they just can't control themselves about.

Probatim

(2,523 posts)
14. I suspect their personalities, shortcomings, and hangups get in the way of a good time.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:03 PM
Sep 2022

Rather than figure out how to become better at it, they'd rather see no one else having sex - and if these "others" are having sex, it has to be as plain-Jane awful as theirs.

Sky Jewels

(7,066 posts)
8. I'm curious to see how the backpedaling will affect anti-choice Republican voter enthusiasm.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 02:41 PM
Sep 2022

Fingers crossed many of them decide to sit out this election.

Warpy

(111,241 posts)
17. If they didn't think about any of this before, it's because they don't think we're worth thinking
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:24 PM
Sep 2022

about, at all. That means women, especially, but a hell of a lot of men, too, who don't want to pay child support for multiple oopsies.

Republicans have spent 50+ years governing against the will of the people. I hope this is the last straw and that most of them are thrown out on their rosy red rectums come November. Maybe then we can get a few things set into law.

liberalla

(9,234 posts)
19. Yes people still like to have sex... they just don't want to have it with * YOU *
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 03:39 PM
Sep 2022

Easy to understand how they got confused, right?

Farmer-Rick

(10,154 posts)
21. It's the religions that have the real problem with sex.
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 04:15 PM
Sep 2022

Somehow, when, where, how and with whom you have sex with is something most religions feel they get a say in.....for everyone. Not just for the congregates, but for those who think that religion is stupid too.

That's why the Supremely Religious Court had to wait for a bunch of crazy Catholics and religiously insane judges to take away women's bodily autonomy. It's the need for religion to control sex that abortion is illegal in the day and age of the simple abortion pill.


I guess they think if they control our sex lives they control us....and they kinda do.

But more and more people are realizing an active sex life with a willing, and hopefully enthusiastic, adult partners is normal and healthy.

Why did they/we put up with that stupid idea that being a virgin when you get married is somehow good? Maybe diseases? But they had condoms for decades before people felt sex out of wedlock was normal.



GopherGal

(2,008 posts)
23. Almost as if some men's fear of/strong aversion to supporting someone else's offspring
Thu Sep 1, 2022, 10:01 PM
Sep 2022

is the root of societal and religious restrictions on women's activities.

The pre-marital chastity, attraction to young girls, virginity tests, heir-and-a-spare-before-the-affair mentality all intended to protect the bloodline...

Fits in with their complete and utter disdain for social welfare programs (even ones that benefit them personally) as well as the dreaded "Cuck" insult...

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