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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsA Danish Prison cell in a newly constructed prison
It looks nicer than the hotel room I stayed in this past weekend
no_hypocrisy
(46,072 posts)A step in the right direction.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)Is it really to punish? To change behavior? Or is it to remove someone from society who is a danger to others or society as a whole?
I've always thought prison should be used for the later. And in many cases it's a failing of society that causes someone to be dangerous to others. Not always. But many times it is.
But this idea that prison has to be conducted in horrible conditions doesn't make sense.
I know it's complicated. But too many people end up in prison.
Tommy Carcetti
(43,166 posts)I don't know if it would ever be replicated here and to what success it might have, but it is fascinating no doubt.
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)not white collar crime, of course, but "real" crime, one deserves to be exploited & treated with lack of dignity & respect. That is a common theme played out in jails & prisons across our country. Anything different is the exception.
CrispyQ
(36,446 posts)is a great movie! One of the country's he visits is Norway to compare their penal system to ours. It's stunning not only the difference in environment, but the results, too. Of course, they also don't have private industry influencing legislators to write draconian laws to lock up more citizens with the goal of maximizing profit, a point Moore made but didn't stress strongly enough IMO.
obamanut2012
(26,064 posts)Nothing fancy. Lower-end IKEA and TV.
ck4829
(35,042 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Reminds me that Ahmaud Arbery's murderers actually hoped to get convicted of federal hate crimes so they could ask to serve their life sentences in a federal instead of GA prison. Didn't work out as hoped.
Well used GA prison cells.
LakeArenal
(28,813 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)That was enough, and I'm sure they'd tidied up.
Aristus
(66,310 posts)when he wrote in A Clockwork Orange: "Cram criminals together and you get concentrated criminality; crime in the midst of punishment."
The Nordic countries have a much saner solution, as usual.
sarisataka
(18,570 posts)However it doesn't fulfill our desire for punishment.
Would be pleased if that was Trumps quarters? The Parkland shooter?
Or any of the people who we have gleefully looked forward to their likely prison "experience" if they were in general pop? e.g The cops who killed George Floyd
hunter
(38,309 posts)Violent people, sexual abusers, those who rob and steal... they can't live freely among us. (I'm looking at you, Donald Trump...)
Torturing these people in their confinement accomplishes nothing. Often it makes them worse people, more dangerous to their fellow prisoners, guards, etc.; more dangerous and less able to function in ordinary society when they are released.
We are an extraordinarily wealthy society. Nobody should live in squalor -- not our dysfunctional homeless people, not our working poor, and not those who must be locked away.
Humans in general are remarkably resistant to punishment. Threats of punishment do not make us consider the consequences of our actions any more carefully, nor do they make us better people.