I appreciate what President Joe Biden, said however...

[Heather MC]

President Biden's attempt to to help republicans publicans find a normal in their party, in their party, should not be the Democratic Party's job.

The notion that there are 2 different Republican parties, the "mainstream Republican" and the "maga Republican"
It's frankly infuriating, because even the so called "mainstream Republican" is pure trash.. Example Liz Chaney, She celebrated when the Supreme Court ended Roe. She voted in lockstep with Donald Trump 93% of the time
She's not a good person, she just happened to be a broken clock who got it right twice. Impeached Donald Trump, and she served on the Jan 6 committee.

And then there's Mitt Romney another so called "Mainstream Republican " Well he voted for all those horrible justices, He never had any integrity, that's why we didn't want him to be president when he ran.

They're trying to paint Mike pence's some kind of hero, Because he was smart enough to know if he allowed Donald Trump's secret service to drive him away from the Capitol they wouldn't bring him back.
But until Mike speaks out against Donald Trump and a meaningful non afraid way why on Earth are the democrats trying to build him up like some kind of great great hero leader that other Republican should look to? If he isn't man enough to speak out against someone who sent a mob to have him murdered while his family was in the building. Democrats shouldn't do anything to help a coward like that.

Gov Kemp, Sure he followed the law and didn't allow Donald Trump to steal 11780 votes however, Hey quickly changed the laws of his state, Simply because he didn't like the outcome of the 2020 election.
Governor Kemp would be considered a "mainstream Republican" because he defied Donald Trump. However, he still put laws in place to try to steal the election in 2024, so how is he better than a maga Republican?🤷🏾?♀️🙄🖕🏾

And any Republican that demonstrates any sign of having a conscious, or care about this country over their party, they get immediately ousted by the Republican voters.

So where exactly is this "mainstream Republican" that's more palatable than the magatrump Republicans.

They are all horrible people, who if they had their way, they would end social security, Medicare, They would celebrate the ending of gay marriage, hell even interracial marriage. They are completely silent as the Republican party is actively working to take away not just our right to vote, but the actual power that our vote gives us. They want to completely nullify our votes and and how many republicans come out and speak out against that? And how many republicans that actually speak out against it, get to keep their job?


They stay absolutely silent, when States try to make it illegal for people to get married before the age of 18, and the religious right comes out andfight against that because of their weirdo ideas about marrying girls off at 14 years old. Or as soon as they're able to start making a baby.

So I don't know, I'm happy to say I'm wrong on this subject. Please tell me, Where are these mainstream republicans, that ought to be preferred over maga republicans, because from where I'm sitting they're all bad.

And I don't believe the Democratic Party should be trying to do anything to protect the republicans from the hell they created for themselves. It shouldn't be our job to help so called moderate republicans find something they can cling to with their party Leadership. The so called "mainstream republicans" should be speaking in defense of their own party. And if they're too afraid of Donald Trump to do that, then it's not the Democratic Party's job to help them.

All democrats should be doing is going wow that party is completely trash and that's it. don't try to build-up anything, don't try to help them out. Let them burn in the house they set on fire, don't put no water on this shit, let The GOP burn to the ground.🤷🏾?♀️


And just to clarify in case I didn't, When Joe Biden speaks about "maga republicans", I don't think he should make a distinction. I think he should specifically refer to maga republicans. WITHOUT, giving any other Republican plausible deniablity. Because just imagine when Donald Trump is completely dragged down someone like Ted Cruz will come out and say, "I've always been a "Mainstream Republican".

They did this to themselves why are we helping them at all?

[Joinfortmill]

1. You make valid points, but..

It's complicated with some Republicans.

[Heather MC]

11. I don't doubt that

however, it's a choice they keep making. where is their bottom🤷🏾?♀️

[Raven123]

2. Actually, I took it differently

I think he called out the GOP members he knew from his days in the Senate and shamed them for their betrayal of democratic values. Granted he may be on a futility mission, if he still thinks he can bring them back from the dark side, but this is classic Biden. It’s who he is.

[Heather MC]

3. It's also something I've noticed that the Democratic Party is trying to do

You know the way the Jan 6 committee made such a big deal about Pence being some kind of hero.
It just feels like the democrats are trying to help the Republican party stay afloat.

I think they should hang that maga albatross around the necks of every Republican who refused to speak out against Donald Trump.

I just don't think we should be trying to help them let them fix their own mess

[kentuck]

4. As despicable as mainstream Republicans may be...

The country can survive with them. It cannot survive with MAGA Republicans.

[Just A Box Of Rain]

5. I'm all for American presidents (and politicians in general) promoting normality in politics.

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And I'm 100% onboard with Biden's approach myself and thrilled that he's taken the wind out of the sails of the sort of populist extremism that threatens American democracy.

The rise of populism both domestically and abroad is a scary phenomenon.

Biden offers the antidote.

[FalloutShelter]

8. I agree...

also, let's not forget that Biden is "releasing the hounds" here. He is giving even other Democrat permission, cover, and encouragement to speak in the same terms.

That is a BIG change. Changing the narrative to one on the offense is something that Democrats here on DU have desired for a very long time. I, for one, celebrate it. Let's get to work.

[Hortensis]

6. If not us, who? Btw, NBC, ABC, and CBS did not show the president's address.

Maybe they agree RW voters should not have to be exposed to what a minority of extremists and traitors who've gotten control of the Republican Party are doing. If they want to know, they will search and find out for themselves.

[gratuitous]

7. Arguably drug addicts do it to themselves

I wouldn't deny them treatment or counseling because of that. If the Republican party is going to get off Trumpism, it's going to take the non-Trump elements of the party to do that, if they want to. If nothing else, when the self-destructive seeds of Trumpism bloom fully, we can at the very least say we tried to call out the better angels of the Republicans to save their own party. But those angels didn't answer the call, and their voice mailbox was full.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

10. He's providing them an exit ramp -- a way to condemn MAGAts while saving face.

Any who take that ramp can begin to reform their party. Any who do not, can go down in flames as voters are now being made aware of the fascism at work.

Here is an illustration of who he was really talking to: