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!! This comment from John Harwood was followed by his abrupt departure from CNN (Original Post) Grasswire2 Sep 2022 OP
Damn he did leave. underpants Sep 2022 #1
Can you give the text? JustAnotherGen Sep 2022 #2
@JohnHHarwood Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #6
Thanks. 2naSalit Sep 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Sep 2022 #18
This message was self-deleted by its author Celerity Sep 2022 #19
"The core point @JoeBiden made about a threat to democracy is true. [As journalists], we're taught Celerity Sep 2022 #20
Hope someone grabs this honest broker. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #67
A class act. Hope he lands somewhere that he is visible. Sneederbunk Sep 2022 #3
Anyone know CNN new prez, [behind this kind of thing], email/cc emails, to flood him empedocles Sep 2022 #4
We need to do that! BComplex Sep 2022 #8
And they don't... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #10
It might be a new CNN marketing strategy. Going after themore moderate/centrist viewers empedocles Sep 2022 #44
Not the center. The brass there is out to mollify conservative criticism... JHB Sep 2022 #68
Why billionaire John Malone's shadow looms over CNN Poiuyt Sep 2022 #37
It doesn't look like it's the 'facts' they really want from here. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #70
Here: calimary Sep 2022 #49
I guess they are trying to become Fox or Fox-like. What I don't get from a business standpoint is LoisB Sep 2022 #5
I don't think it's a genine business decision. It's a viewpoint being forced Merlot Sep 2022 #22
I hadn't thought of that but I think you are absolutely correct. LoisB Sep 2022 #57
Overton Window markodochartaigh Sep 2022 #60
Thank you. You just taught me a term/concept I did not know. DU has the smartest people. This LoisB Sep 2022 #61
Harwood musclecar6 Sep 2022 #7
The video is there but will not play... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #9
weird -- works fine for me nt Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #11
Maybe it's overload... 2naSalit Sep 2022 #13
I just watched it. tavernier Sep 2022 #47
Who's Next? Wolf? WiVoter Sep 2022 #12
I happened to be watching this live and was surprised at his comments. DURHAM D Sep 2022 #15
Good guess. He knew what was coming, so let's go out with a bang! liberalla Sep 2022 #23
Maybe he's already heard he was being terminated tishaLA Sep 2022 #65
It's a purge Dirty Socialist Sep 2022 #16
Yup Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #71
Haven't watched an hour of CNN since faux lite honcho canned reliable sources. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2022 #17
For me? Corey Lewandowski. Grins Sep 2022 #32
Jeebus...fortunately I never saw his mug so this is news to me. CNN-Nazi news light. Comfortably_Numb Sep 2022 #34
Corey "Work Sets You Free" Lewandowski. Mariana Sep 2022 #41
I threw up in my mouth a little bit... Comfortably_Numb Sep 2022 #80
He's a fucking Nazi. Mariana Sep 2022 #81
Totally agree. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #72
The silencing of media continues. On Democracy Now the guest stated that three networks didn't even Evolve Dammit Sep 2022 #21
It's not often you hear such honesty expressed by our members of the media, GoodRaisin Sep 2022 #24
Democrats need to be treating CNN like Fox/OAN/newsmax (i.e. not watching it!) Takket Sep 2022 #25
I So Appreciate & Respect Marc Elias.. Cha Sep 2022 #48
Yup Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #73
It is possible that he was fired. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #26
CON trying to boost Republicans before election day bucolic_frolic Sep 2022 #27
JH's comment... ultralite001 Sep 2022 #28
thank you nt Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #30
Thank you!! Geechie Sep 2022 #52
Truth teller. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #74
Stephanie Ruhle weighs in Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #29
K and R. Long live this thread. oasis Sep 2022 #31
An honest person cannot disagree with him G_j Sep 2022 #33
UPDATE from a source. He knew for a month that today was his last day. Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #35
Wow.. "a long term contract" Cha Sep 2022 #42
yeah Grasswire2 Sep 2022 #51
Best of Good Luck to John Harweed! Cha Sep 2022 #55
"He used one of this last live shots to send a message" crickets Sep 2022 #59
OK. I'm done with CNN. Who else is ? rickford66 Sep 2022 #36
Thank You!! I was Done Cha Sep 2022 #40
Here too. nt Duppers Sep 2022 #43
Have been done with them for sometime! Let's go after their advert base too! PortTack Sep 2022 #56
Yup. tavernier Sep 2022 #62
I've always liked MSNBC better anyway. calimary Sep 2022 #69
Yup, barely watch anyway Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #75
This Shit is REAL.. Cancel CNN! Cha Sep 2022 #38
Right on John Harwood! MLAA Sep 2022 #39
CNN - To be replaced with OAN Light. world wide wally Sep 2022 #45
Harwood's departure certainly paints those who stay behind rurallib Sep 2022 #46
That last line - BOOM. Geechie Sep 2022 #50
Jim Acosta on the list yet? IcyPeas Sep 2022 #53
I have no doubt he is. bluestarone Sep 2022 #64
Such a refreshingly honest and factual statement. Martin68 Sep 2022 #54
Thanks for posting the segment. I wonder whether by then he knew that question everything Sep 2022 #58
There will soon be a very large niche media market to fill. Mr Soros, are you listening? Marcuse Sep 2022 #63
Yup. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #76
CNN is going down the wrong path. They will live to regret firing the truth tellers because... Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #66
CNN,,,"No truth allowed" bagimin Sep 2022 #77
Goodbye, CNN. We hardly knew ye. dchill Sep 2022 #78
Kick burrowowl Sep 2022 #79
It's September...media got their marching orders durablend Sep 2022 #82
CNN has turned to the dark side LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #83
I've been CNN-free Karma13612 Sep 2022 #84
I'm sure he will be fine. DashOneBravo Sep 2022 #85

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
6. @JohnHHarwood
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

I will transcribe the text in a bit -- gotta run right now.

He basically validates everything Biden said about Trump and the MAGA Republicans.

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
14. Thanks.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:04 PM
Sep 2022

Still can't get the vid to play and he doesn't have it at his acct site. That acct belongs to CNN so he will have to come up with his own personal acct.

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Response to JustAnotherGen (Reply #2)

Celerity

(43,254 posts)
20. "The core point @JoeBiden made about a threat to democracy is true. [As journalists], we're taught
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022
not to take sides in honest disagreements between parties. But these are not honest disagreements. The @GOP right now is led by a dishonest demagogue."







personal news:

today's my last day at CNN

proud of the work

thanks to my colleagues

i've been lucky to serve the best in American media - St. Petersburg Times, WSJ, NYT, the NBC family, CNN

look forward to figuring out what's next

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
8. We need to do that!
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:50 PM
Sep 2022

Who is the right wing tool that has made the decision to turn CNN into fux nooz lite?

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
10. And they don't...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:54 PM
Sep 2022

Give a fuck until everyone stops watching their channels and stops buying the products advertised on the channels.

Nothing else, short of the government shutting them down for some criminal offense, will do anything to faze them.

empedocles

(15,751 posts)
44. It might be a new CNN marketing strategy. Going after themore moderate/centrist viewers
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:39 PM
Sep 2022

viewers, ceding the further left to MSNBC?

JHB

(37,158 posts)
68. Not the center. The brass there is out to mollify conservative criticism...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:53 PM
Sep 2022

...by going hard on dishonest "both sides" coverage, and dropping shows and reporters who can't ignore that all the problems are coming from one direction.

Poiuyt

(18,122 posts)
37. Why billionaire John Malone's shadow looms over CNN
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:34 PM
Sep 2022

CNN is in flux. It has a new owner, and a new boss, who promises to remake the news channel and has told employees to be prepared for “a time of change.”

Most of those changes have yet to manifest. But one of the first ones — canceling its long-running Reliable Sources show and pushing out anchor Brian Stelter — has already unsettled some CNN employees and viewers.

But the bigger question floating over one of the world’s largest and most important news organizations is why it’s changing. Is it because the CEO of Warner Bros. Discovery, its new owner, wants an overhaul? Or is it at the behest of a conservative billionaire investor in the company who sits on its board?

That billionaire is John Malone, a legend in the cable TV business and one who has deep and longstanding ties with David Zaslav, the CEO of WBD. People close to both men insist that Zaslav is remaking CNN because he wants to for both business and editorial reasons, and not because Malone has told him to.

But complicating that narrative is the fact that Malone has repeatedly wished, in public, for CNN to remake itself. And his prescription happens to sync with the new CNN agenda: a plan to steer the channel away from what Malone and others call a liberal bias they say muddles opinion and news. And to shift it toward a supposedly centrist, just-the-facts bent.

https://www.vox.com/2022/8/26/23322761/cnn-john-malone-david-zaslav-chris-licht-brian-stelter-fox-peter-kafka-column

LoisB

(7,195 posts)
5. I guess they are trying to become Fox or Fox-like. What I don't get from a business standpoint is
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:47 PM
Sep 2022

what makes them think Fox viewers would watch a knock-off when they can watch the real thing? I assume it is the Fox viewer they are trying to attract. Is the "bimbo" couch next?

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
22. I don't think it's a genine business decision. It's a viewpoint being forced
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:12 PM
Sep 2022

by a republican. They tend to have a burn it down mentality. Just like they don't care that abortions rights being curtailed have hurt their party. They will steamroll forward - it's all about taking power.

markodochartaigh

(1,138 posts)
60. Overton Window
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:23 PM
Sep 2022

The left side of the media Overton window wasn't moving as quickly to the right as the right side of the window, so the left side has to pick up the pace. There are some people (finally) bailing from the maga Republicans, and likely these people are more wealthy than average, perhaps the new cnn wants to pick these people up and give them maga lite (not saying the quiet part out loud). But also I think that our oligarchs sense a burgeoning swell of support for FDR type policies and they want to lessen the public's exposure to those views as much as possible.

LoisB

(7,195 posts)
61. Thank you. You just taught me a term/concept I did not know. DU has the smartest people. This
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:30 PM
Sep 2022

makes absolute sense.

musclecar6

(1,685 posts)
7. Harwood
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:49 PM
Sep 2022


Hit it right on the money. Hardwood is probably leaving because the billionaire that bought out CNN reputedly wants to make it more like fox. He didn't say it that way but odds are that's where he's headed because he's a right wing conservative.

Looks like Harwood took a parting shot and in effect is interviewing for a job at MSNBC. Hope he gets it

2naSalit

(86,502 posts)
13. Maybe it's overload...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 01:59 PM
Sep 2022

I have tried several times, don't have an acct but can see most of what is posted, this one just keeps the loading wheel constantly spinning.

I'll check again later. I figured CNN or someone had disabled it somehow.

DURHAM D

(32,607 posts)
15. I happened to be watching this live and was surprised at his comments.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:04 PM
Sep 2022

Guess it was his way of resigning.

tishaLA

(14,176 posts)
65. Maybe he's already heard he was being terminated
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:49 PM
Sep 2022

and he decided "fuck it" and went out with a bang.

Comfortably_Numb

(3,797 posts)
17. Haven't watched an hour of CNN since faux lite honcho canned reliable sources.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:10 PM
Sep 2022

I do miss Brianna Keillor, but the rest of CNN can rot for all I care. Don Lemon will be gone soon….if I wanted to watch right wing blowhards I would watch faux. CNN is making a big mistake. No magats are ever gonna watch because Cheetoh Shitlolini tells them not to.

Grins

(7,203 posts)
32. For me? Corey Lewandowski.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:26 PM
Sep 2022

When CNN hired him immediately after he was fired by THE TRUMP CAMPAIGN - that was IT!!

Evolve Dammit

(16,719 posts)
21. The silencing of media continues. On Democracy Now the guest stated that three networks didn't even
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:11 PM
Sep 2022

cover Biden's speech and even NPR did a quick bit this morning saying the speech was for the mid-terms (ie. just political).

GoodRaisin

(8,920 posts)
24. It's not often you hear such honesty expressed by our members of the media,
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:16 PM
Sep 2022

and when it does, he’s suddenly gone? Hmmm…

Cha

(297,029 posts)
48. I So Appreciate & Respect Marc Elias..
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:49 PM
Sep 2022

I don't have a tv so I didn't know of John Harwood until today.

CNN & its Pres Chris Licht are saying.. this Full Blown Magat Shit is Real.. No Truth Allowed!

Now I'm interested in where John Harwood's next job will be!

ultralite001

(894 posts)
28. JH's comment...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:22 PM
Sep 2022
The core point he made in that political speech about a threat to democracy is true. Now, that’s something that’s not easy for us, as journalists, to say. We’re brought up to believe there’s two different political parties with different points of view and we don’t take sides in honest disagreements between them. But that’s not what we’re talking about. These are not honest disagreements. The Republican Party right now is led by a dishonest demagogue. Many, many Republicans are rallying behind his lies about the 2020 election and other things as well. And a significant portion — or a sufficient portion — of the constituency that they’re leading attacked the Capitol on January 6th. Violently. By offering pardons or suggesting pardons for those people who violently attacked the Capitol, which you’ve been pointing out numerous times this morning, Donald Trump made Joe Biden’s point for him.


That is all...

Geechie

(862 posts)
52. Thank you!!
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:55 PM
Sep 2022

I copied that last line for emphasis and added to the comments below. Nothing but the truth!

G_j

(40,366 posts)
33. An honest person cannot disagree with him
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:28 PM
Sep 2022

he is just telling a simple truth that anyone can see for themselves..

Grasswire2

(13,565 posts)
35. UPDATE from a source. He knew for a month that today was his last day.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:29 PM
Sep 2022

Dan Froomkin/PressWatchers.org
@froomkin
·
20m
Now further updated: A knowledgeable source tells me
@JohnJHarwood
was informed last month that today would be his last day, even though he was on a long-term contract. "He used one of this last live shots to send a message," the source told me.

crickets

(25,959 posts)
59. "He used one of this last live shots to send a message"
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:09 PM
Sep 2022

Good for Harwood to take the opportunity to strongly stand on the side of truth before leaving. That's class.

rurallib

(62,403 posts)
46. Harwood's departure certainly paints those who stay behind
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:44 PM
Sep 2022

as having little integrity. They would sell their souls for the job.

That sure paints CNN on screen personnel as untrustworthy.

CNN really fucked up.

Geechie

(862 posts)
50. That last line - BOOM.
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 02:53 PM
Sep 2022

By offering pardons or suggesting pardons for those people who violently attacked the Capitol, which you’ve been pointing out numerous times this morning, Donald Trump made Joe Biden’s point for him.

HT to ultralite001 for the transcript.

question everything

(47,460 posts)
58. Thanks for posting the segment. I wonder whether by then he knew that
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:06 PM
Sep 2022

he was on his way out and this was his swan song.

Joinfortmill

(14,408 posts)
66. CNN is going down the wrong path. They will live to regret firing the truth tellers because...
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 03:50 PM
Sep 2022

the truth will come out one way or the other.

durablend

(7,459 posts)
82. It's September...media got their marching orders
Fri Sep 2, 2022, 05:30 PM
Sep 2022

"Need to stop this 'blue wave' or whatever it is before it might succeed"

Karma13612

(4,547 posts)
84. I've been CNN-free
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 07:30 AM
Sep 2022

For quite some time. They started pushing the anti-Biden theme heavily when we pulled out of Afghanistan.

I boycotted them along with MSNBC.

Over time, I’ve come back to MSNBC when I want good solid truthful Democratic-slanted news.

As an aside, I’m not thrilled with Rachel’s permanent 4 day a week replacement.

I can’t believe CNN is doing this. This suicidal red-shift will not end well for them. Now we have to ride out the storm until they either pull their heads out of their backside or ?? Another ?? Network feeds the sane-minded masses?

Right before consequential midterms.

STUPID FECKING B@STARDS!

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
85. I'm sure he will be fine.
Sat Sep 3, 2022, 10:10 AM
Sep 2022

CNN lost a viewers. I think they are trying hard to their neutral status . They used to be the ones, that the world watched.


Harwood and some of the others are probably going to be gone.

“Harwood saw further criticism after the personal email account of John Podesta, who was then chairman of the 2016 Hillary Clinton presidential campaign, was hacked and had its contents published by the website WikiLeaks in October and November 2016. Among the emails were several from Harwood that some critics said indicated an unprofessional level of closeness or collusion between the two, including an email from May 2015 in which Harwood warned Podesta that then-candidate Ben Carson could represent "real trouble" to the Clinton campaign.[11][12] The emails also revealed that Harwood had asked Podesta which questions he should ask Republican candidate Jeb Bush during a debate.[13]”

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Harwood_(journalist)#Journalism_career

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