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DLCWIdem

(1,580 posts)
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:11 AM Sep 2022

YEP. CNN has gone full FOX

I was just watching an interview one of there hosts was doing with Charlie Dent, and the newscaster started talking g about Biden's "flagging poll numbers". Someone should tell them that Bidens "poll" numbers are climbing.

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YEP. CNN has gone full FOX (Original Post) DLCWIdem Sep 2022 OP
Some folks here use to label CNN as liberal Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #1
Some folks here used to label CNN and MSNBC as liberal gab13by13 Sep 2022 #2
You don't like Lawrence? Hugh_Lebowski Sep 2022 #8
My favorite is Ari Melber. Meadowoak Sep 2022 #14
Although Nicolle is excellent, she is not a liberal or even a Democrat karynnj Sep 2022 #9
A lot of the "contributors" and hosts on MSNBC FoxNewsSucks Sep 2022 #11
I remember when MSNBC had Tucker Carlson and Mary Matalin Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #12
i was stuck in a hotel room in wis, in a deep freeze, when michael wolfe's 1st cheato book came out. mopinko Sep 2022 #3
It's a right-wing media presupposition Shermann Sep 2022 #4
Licht says he wants to give Republicans a fair shot. Silly me, I thought that's what FAUX is for. Firestorm49 Sep 2022 #5
if so we should all watch msnbc and cnn will either take viewers from fox or go bankrupt samsingh Sep 2022 #6
Or CNN viewers get brainwashed like fox viewers mucifer Sep 2022 #15
Chris Licht is a fascist who desperately craves Trump's approval dalton99a Sep 2022 #7
KO in a recent podcast warned us of the pro-IQ45 takeover of CNN heirarchy. GreenWave Sep 2022 #10
CNN was sold and the new CEO is a rightist. zanana1 Sep 2022 #13
They have rebranded themselves as OAN II Generic Brad Sep 2022 #16
Here's a good analysis on why CNN is lurching to the right: Fiendish Thingy Sep 2022 #17
COMCAST's major shareholders; gab13by13 Sep 2022 #18
CNN made a real BAD Decision... LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #19

Farmer-Rick

(10,135 posts)
1. Some folks here use to label CNN as liberal
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:19 AM
Sep 2022

CNN was never liberal.

People really don't understand what liberal is anymore, because the news is dominated by Right Wing crazies. So when a news show screws up and mentions political truth, we think it's liberal. Even a lot of MSNBC is right wing lies.

Yeah, you're right CNN is now Fox. Not news so much as fantasy.

gab13by13

(21,256 posts)
2. Some folks here used to label CNN and MSNBC as liberal
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:27 AM
Sep 2022

Fixed it for you.

I remember back when MSNBC had a liberal slant; Keith Olbermann, Melissa Harris-Perry, Ed Schultz, Martin Brashear, and my favorite, Dylan Ratigan. I knew Dylan would get axed when his last project was travelling the country exposing crony capitalism. I tuned into him just like I tune into Nicolle Wallace.

For me, I only watch Nicolle, Mehdi Hasan, and Chris Hayes. I often wonder if Rachel was forced out? I'm surprised that Nicolle was given 2 hours.

 

Hugh_Lebowski

(33,643 posts)
8. You don't like Lawrence?
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:56 AM
Sep 2022

He's my fave now that Rachel is gone.

Not that I watch much M$M, mostly clips on YT these days.

karynnj

(59,498 posts)
9. Although Nicolle is excellent, she is not a liberal or even a Democrat
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:01 AM
Sep 2022

She was part of the Bush administration and part of the McCain campaign. Even now, if asked, I am pretty sure she would argue for Bush or McCain over Kerry and Obama. She may be one of the clearest early 2000 Republicans who were and stayed anti Trump. I have no doubt that had Jeb won the nomination in 2016 that she would have been in his camp. I appreciate her integrity, like Liz Cheney's, in putting country over party when the party went extremely wrong.

FoxNewsSucks

(10,417 posts)
11. A lot of the "contributors" and hosts on MSNBC
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:01 AM
Sep 2022

are not liberal, at best they are never-tRumpers who were forced out of their party by the crazies.

Some may have genuinely realized they were previously on the wrong side, some may just be waiting for a normal-type republican party to come back so they can rejoin it.

Time will tell. Meanwhile, the supposed "liberal" channel is dominated by former republicons simply because they are not crazy. The bad thing is, it still shoves public opinion to the right.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
12. I remember when MSNBC had Tucker Carlson and Mary Matalin
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:02 AM
Sep 2022

So, things change, sometimes for the better, and sometimes just different.

Sometimes changes are driven by ideology (in the case of CNN’s new owner); more often they are driven by ratings, which some executives believe are ideology based.

MSNBC is still the most liberal news network currently broadcasting, despite its Chuck Todd shortcomings.

mopinko

(69,990 posts)
3. i was stuck in a hotel room in wis, in a deep freeze, when michael wolfe's 1st cheato book came out.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:28 AM
Sep 2022

most miserable week of.my.life.so.far.
like a dumb ass, i didnt get a smoking room. hadnt been a smoker long enough to think that way. wouldnt have been a thing, except that it was below zero the whole time.
so i was going out and smoking in my car, praying for a bit of heat before i was done. didnt go anywhere cuz everything was frozen solid.

cable only had ccn, no msnbc. nothing but wolfe and that book the WHOLE damn week.
my ears and eyes were about to start bleeding by the time i checked out.

Shermann

(7,399 posts)
4. It's a right-wing media presupposition
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:40 AM
Sep 2022

They start by defining "right wing media" with the likes of Huffington Post. Bonifide left-biased news sources aren't really a threat to them because they can be dismissed out of hand. The real threats are the straighter news sources like CNN and MSNBC. So, they get lumped in with the same category so they can be collectively marginalized as a propagandistic tool.

Those who value truth will tend to evaluate each news source on its own merits and can recognize propaganda. They also generally understand that true unbiased news is a fallacy. The only way to get to that is to turn on the cameras in Congress and let them roll with no commentary whatsoever (like C-SPAN). But that's impractical for most, we need news people to filter out the news from the noise and conceptualize what is going on at a high level (prioritizing objectivity whenever possible).

Firestorm49

(4,029 posts)
5. Licht says he wants to give Republicans a fair shot. Silly me, I thought that's what FAUX is for.
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 10:45 AM
Sep 2022

We need media weaponry now more than ever. As a political party, many of us democrats are silent. Way too silent. Yes, we do turn out at the polls and generally kick their ass, but it would be comforting, relieving, satisfying, if we were as vocal as they are - just to let them know that we are as determined and they are. Are we the silent majority? Even in DC, we’re accomplishing many things, but their megaphone is bigger than ours, and they whittle away day by day winning converts, albeit knuckle draggers, but converts nonetheless.

Generic Brad

(14,272 posts)
16. They have rebranded themselves as OAN II
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:23 AM
Sep 2022

Hope they enjoy losing money. Because that's how you lose money.

Fiendish Thingy

(15,548 posts)
17. Here's a good analysis on why CNN is lurching to the right:
Sun Sep 4, 2022, 11:23 AM
Sep 2022
https://digbysblog.net/2022/09/04/fish-where-the-fish-are/

Besides the new Trump loving owner of the corporation that owns CNN, the fact is, the eyeballs watching cable news continue to get older and more conservative. The much-desired 18-49 demographic is increasingly “cutting the cord” and dropping cable altogether and viewing only streaming services. The remaining viewers are older (ever notice the commercials?). Cable news makes more money from PAC funded ads in the three months before an election than they do from all other ads the rest of the year.

Thanks, Citizens United.
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