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In addition to his loftier aims, Biden came to Philadelphia to deliver a wound to Trumps boundless yet fragile ego. Trump obliged with a monstrously self-involved meltdown 48 hours later. And now his party has nowhere to hide. Bazinga!
theatlantic.com
Biden Laid the Trap. Trump Walked Into It.
At his Pennsylvania rally, the former president gave exactly the narcissistic display his Democratic nemesis tried to provoke.
5:57 PM · Sep 4, 2022
https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2022/09/trump-pennsylvania-rally-republicans/671344/
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https://archive.ph/vYs9R
In 2016, Hillary Clinton warned that Donald Trump was a fool who could be baited with a tweet.
This past Thursday night, in Philadelphia, Joe Biden upped the ante by asking, in effect: What idiot thing might the former president do if baited with a whole speech? On Saturday night, the world got its answer.
For the 2022 election cycle, smart Republicans had a clear and simple plan: Dont let the election be about Trump. Make it about gas prices, or crime, or the border, or race, or sex education, or anythinganything but Trump. Trump lost the popular vote in 2016. He lost control of the House in 2018. He lost the presidency in 2020. He lost both Senate seats in Georgia in 2021. Republicans had good reason to dread the havoc hed create if he joined the fight in 2022.
So they pleaded with Trump to keep out of the 2022 race. A Republican lawmaker in a close contest told CNN on August 19, I dont say his name, ever.
Maybe the pleas were always doomed to fail. Show Trump a spotlight, and hes going to step into it. But Republicans pinned their hopes on the chance that Trump might muster some self-discipline this one time, some regard for the interests and wishes of his partners and allies.
One of the purposes of Bidens Philadelphia attack on Trumps faction within the Republican Party was surely to goad Trump. It worked.
*snip*
OAITW r.2.0
(24,286 posts)Hope he runs in 2024. Should implode this "party" for good.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)PortTack
(32,691 posts)Indykatie
(3,695 posts)peppertree
(21,595 posts)McConnell and Scalise always did remind me of pigs.
crickets
(25,951 posts)to the midterms is that it hangs him around the neck of every Republican candidate whether they like it or not.
Good.
Jarqui
(10,119 posts)steventh
(2,143 posts)"The Complete Guide to All the Ways Donald Trump Is Legally Screwed." It was a good reminder about some of the actions that don't tend to make headlines often. There was one that I didn't remember at all, a class action by anonymous plaintiffs.
So thanks for posting the link.
crickets
(25,951 posts)That's an impressive list of lawsuits. I'd forgotten one and didn't even know about a couple of them. Great article - thanks for the link.
No paywall: https://archive.ph/KstsP
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,239 posts)Many people still rely on broadcast tv for news. These networks failed to interrupt their re-runs to carry the speech live.
orleans
(34,040 posts)don't get me wrong; i am still royally pissed off they didn't cover biden's
Hermit-The-Prog
(33,239 posts)sop
(10,090 posts)The closer he gets to being indicted, the greater the likelihood we'll have "Trump Breaking News!" interrupting regular programming every time he says or does something outrageous.
rubbersole
(6,658 posts)With 80 days to go. Tee hee.
ProudMNDemocrat
(16,699 posts)Phrase taken when I was a kid...
Nor is Joe Biden to be underestimated. He sure can throw an uppercut as well as a left hook.
Joinfortmill
(14,378 posts)agingdem
(7,804 posts)Mitch wants toxic Trump far far away from the midterms and Biden knows this...his speech was a punch to Trump's megalomaniacal ego..Joe needed Trump's imbecilic endorsees to "disappear"...the midterm election has to be a referendum on Trump and only Trump..Biden and his advisors have correctly gauged Trump's zombie faithful are shrinking..and the public is done with Trump's chaos, insults, threats of violence, his forever victimhood, blathering lies...well done Joe
housecat
(3,121 posts)Biden played this well, and it may be at just the right time. If Biden keeps it up, tfg and his zombies just
might hand Democrats the midterms.
speak easy
(9,176 posts)You have to be some kinda narcissist/sociopath/moron to respond by blasting Philadelphia at a rally for the PA Senate candidate.
Ponietz
(2,934 posts)Every last one of his apprentices can eat it.
2naSalit
(86,308 posts)As I watched the speech.
Fiendish Thingy
(15,544 posts)Nevilledog
(50,986 posts)mopinko
(69,982 posts)i've been feeling lately that their tissue of lies is just transparent. this much come next.
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Hekate
(90,538 posts)BlueJac
(7,838 posts)mwb970
(11,344 posts)True Blue American
(17,981 posts)Zuckerberg had visited him in he WH last week. Handlers aetrying keep Trump out of sight. He believes he is still in the WH!
This was on the Palmer report this morning. He watches so I do not have to!
MissMillie
(38,527 posts)Maybe the pleas were always doomed to fail. Show Trump a spotlight, and hes going to step into it. But Republicans pinned their hopes on the chance that Trump might muster some self-discipline this one time, some regard for the interests and wishes of his partners and allies.
ProfessorGAC
(64,827 posts)Self-discipline? Regard for others? They hoped for that???
Good luck with that fairy tale wish fellas!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Here's another good one from an Insider headline:
Lindsey Graham: Trump will lose 2024 if he doesn't fix his personality
Norbert
(6,038 posts)But the orange magat exercising self-discipline and regard for others? Hasn't happened in 76 years, not gonna happen now or ever.
RobinA
(9,884 posts)and it is a jawdropper. They've been down that road so many times before - when he ran, when he became the candidate, when he "won," when he was inaugurated... There is zero chance Trump is going to suddenly straighten up and fly right. Personality disorders don't work like that.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)How to make Trump melt down and act out more and more in public.
Mr. Ected
(9,670 posts)She seems to understand Donald in ways that no one else could.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)They should be able to predict Trump's every move and how to bring him down.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)And political parties, etc.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)Hortensis
(58,785 posts)with ruthless sociopaths and conscienceless psychopaths, social dominators and double highs. Seriously. The Republican Party's become so corrupt and accessible (as decent leaders backed away/were purged) that it draws them like flies to carrion.
Political operatives can't function without understanding their opponents. Anyway, I'm sure they all obtain the same studies looking for insights, except for those they routinely commission for themselves only.
It'd be really fun to read reports on...McConnell for one. I've read a couple of biographies and feel sure he's diagnosable. He's famous among his own colleagues for knowing so little about issues that come before the senate that he can't hold up his end of a conversation. (!!!) Not that he wastes his time that way anyway. Power, growing and applying it, are what interest him.
You couldn't make this stuff up if you couldn't have imagined it was possible.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)He is all about power and will do anything to hang onto his power base.
Yes the GOP is not a political party, it is a crime syndicate.
In recent years their crimes are becoming more heinous and public.
That is why I think it is time for the FBI profilers to become involved.
Or their ilk.
The political campaign psychology consultants are not quite up to speed on
dealing with politicians who are identical to those on the FBI most wanted list.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I suspect they're far, far, far more insulated from criminal prosecution than regular criminals, exempted by their role in government and lack of laws defining harmful and/or unethical work actions as criminal. And then, of course, it's an ongoing lesson in power, only a portion of which is in official government hands as delegated by the electorate.
McConnell notably has been careful to maintain separation from political "crimes," but I've really been hoping he dropped the ball during the tRump era so we can get him. No one ever mentions the possibility of him being subpoenaed or even interviewed by investigators, though.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)The law protects him, not binds him.
Of course there is no talk about him being charged with anything.
He is ruthless, clever and much smarter than Trump.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)personally...whatever he is, power-loving but a turtle with serious limitations, not a Putin with giant ambitions.
Fwiw, , my impression is that McConnell's also always been careful to stay personally within the letter of laws that could bite them. He and others have been plotting a RW takeover through electoral and judicial means for a lot longer than tRump's been on the scene, and caution suggests they've always intended to remain safe and powerful no matter what.
Things got crazy once the base cut loose and created their own wannabe dictator, but they've mostly been able to work with it, letting those who threw in with tRump stick their necks out. Especially now.
Anyway, that's my best guess, until thrilling news were to come that McConnell slipped and did something he could be nailed for. Basically lawful as far as we know, though, and that would mean we can't put him and his cabal in jail. We might help those in public life leave and die in the disgrace they so deserve, though.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)McConnell is very careful yes. He always stacks the deck in his favor.
But he is still very corrupt, his wife's financial dealings with China have enriched McConnell and not always legal
or ethical.
McConnell knows he is protected. I cannot think of anyone who would go after him.
Biden's speech about how great real R's are, was a bit of a stretch.
But he was making a point about how bad MAGAs are.
Trump would have been protected by McConnell if Trump had not broken the rules.
Don't cost the GOP money or votes. Or hurt GOP optics.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)breaking the law himself, and those like him, because that could be dangerous to them. The protections of power available to the powerful are not absolute under our current system. And, above all, breaking the law is unnecessary because they have other, well proven, legal means for getting the people to destroy our democracy for them.
But in any case, these are not exactly the kind of revolutionaries who rush the machine guns guarding the palace, or even get their clothes mussed. They're too old and "entitled" to risk their privileges.
I think Biden is reminding conservatives unhappy with what MAGAs are doing of who they've always believed themselves to be and need to be. We do that with children, tell them they're good so they'll see themselves that way. Using grown-up definitions of good.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)Probably a combination of the points we are discussing.
Mitch is very careful about the laws he breaks, and also knows that there is no one who will go after him.
As long as he is not egregious.
In D.C. the culture is that high level officials who commit crimes are generally covered up and protected.
Unless for some reason they piss of the powers that be and then they are thrown under the bus.
I do think that if Trump had gone quietly into the night, raised money for the GOP, helped people get elected
or just shut the hell up, McConnell may have covered for him. Secret documents and all. Just had the FBI quietly
pick up the docs and that would be the end of it. US presidents almost always have their crimes hidden and protected.
But Trump made McConnell very angry and so Trump was thrown under the bus.
Maybe Biden was trying to show the public he did not paint all R's as bad, and that R voters are not a threat to democracy. He was being politic and also appealing like you say to their higher angels if they have any that is.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)McConnell still needs tRump's voters to come out big and hopeful for Pub candidates, but he'd have huge difficulty covering for tRump even if he didn't need to protect him since tRump lost the WH and control of both houses of congress. Speaking of McC being angry!
So I don't think tRump behaving could change that because McConnell just doesn't have the power to stop us, and I really do not think he controls the DoJ or FBI during a Democratic administration. His hopes hinge on the midterms shifting congressional power back to him in January, but Biden would still be chief executive in charge of DoJ/FBI and various federal other investigative functions, including the OIG.
I've been seeing what's happening among the Pubs as basically competing far-right authoritarian takeovers -- fascistic white nationalist populist and big business/establishment. They have to work together to defeat the Democrats/existing government, but afterward they would battle each other. Their big power blocs would ultimately support whichever won, including their wannabe pluto/kleptocrats and the *religious right,* which in itself includes most of the MAGAs and white supremacists, a fair number of extremist billionaires, and a killer majority on SCOTUS...!
Whatever the reality is, we live in interesting times.
Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)Not much happens in DC without the major power brokers signing off.
By the time things hit the popular press, it is all a done deal.
We just see the kabuki theater version of events.
McConnell obviously let J6 committee proceed with no interference from him.
He got McCarthy to pull his flying monkeys, Jordan and Gaetz, from the committee.
He got Cruz and Hawley to tone it down.
The J6 committee was a GOP affair, Liz Cheney, witnesses, etc.
Mitch could have made the J6 hearings look like a three ring circus, but he didn't.
Yes that is what I mean, if Trump had supported Mitch and the GOP, helped raise money and
get R's elected, not tarnished the R brand, etc., Mitch would have covered for him.
Like the GOP has covered for all the R presidents in the past.
Mitch of course can control other branches of government.
He does so by threats, persuasion, etc.
Obama wanted to raise the alarm that Russia was helping install Trump into office and McConnell threatened him.
Obama had no choice but to back down or blow the election.
When McConnell lost the senate races in GA, mysteriously two Dem senators because his best friends.
That was McConnell's plan b in action.
McConnell's fingerprints are everywhere.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)occult, behind-the-scenes powers and seriously underestimating both the powers and differences in principles and goals of Democrats.
The Republicans own their massive corruption. Today's RW extremists and corrupt subversives in government have extremely (!) different goals from the overall strongly liberal Democratic caucuses.
Take a look at THIS:
This group studies the performance of political parties around the globe. The Republican Party has taken a steep dive into authoritarianism, similar, while the Republicans controlled DC, to Hungary's dictator-headed RW party. Viktor Orban is still very popular among MAGAs.
The Democratic Party graphs over the past century as the same steady horizontal blue line that represents all the blessings of progressive, liberal government that Democratic/democratic government has created. See how far apart the lines are? And how we haven't changed with them? That extremely slight dip on the right of the blue line represents increased effect on our party of a LW authoritarian-leaning populist movement @2016, but very minor -- it lost and our normal, steady-blue-line progressive liberalism continues as before, then and since.)
Altogether something I'm very proud of and able to reassured by in these scary times.
NH Ethylene
(30,802 posts)Irish_Dem
(46,430 posts)That is not a stupid man.
But yes I agree, most can see how to trigger him.
With his ego, his need for attention and admiration, he is an easy target.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)any competent psychiatrist would know how to push the buttons of a malignant narcissist
RicROC
(1,203 posts)live love laugh
(13,074 posts)TeamProg
(6,021 posts)SWBTATTReg
(22,059 posts)instead, nefarious and dark forces, such as Russian and/or Chinese entities. There are forces out there still watching us closely to see if they can derive any benefits from a continued American obsession w/ itself until things get worked out under a Biden administration (which they are but tRUMP still screams and yells pathetically from the sidelines when he can).
tRUMP is on his way out as we can see, IMHO.
Already and I suspect (there is one or more polls out there already confirming this thought) that tRUMP's antics are wearing thin, the hatred and other routine siren calls uttered by tRUMP and the like are falling upon fewer and fewer ears, and people are sick and tired of it.
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czarjak
(11,253 posts)FossFafy
(21 posts)They are Trump.
Baggies
(503 posts)Please tell me the Party isnt pinning their hopes on the anti-Trump vote. I see moves to try and highlight some positives, however inflation, food and gas prices, the border, and rising interest rates dominate the concerns of the people.
Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)It is one of his superpowers.