I've said all along that this is kind of a side show and the investigation will continue because the contents of the documents never really mattered in the first place. This judge has made a right ass of herself but the show will go on.

reACTIONary

(5,767 posts)

8. +10 nt

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:58 PM

Sep 2022

G2theD

(593 posts)

10. I will only chill when the indictments come

Reply to Ocelot II (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:07 AM

Sep 2022

OMGWTF

(3,939 posts)

12. Convictions will make me feel better.

Reply to G2theD (Reply #10)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:26 AM

Sep 2022

G2theD

(593 posts)

16. No doubt! That's where I have great confidence in AG Garland.

Reply to OMGWTF (Reply #12)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:53 PM

Sep 2022

He is meticulous and always gets his man.
The evidence is undeniable on the obstruction charge as well as possessing the documents.

I am however concerned that he will not be indicted for anything. At the same time, does Garland really want to prove once and for all that justice isn’t blind and some people are indeed above the law?

femmedem

(8,196 posts)

3. Thank you. I'm feeling calmer about this now. n/t

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2022, 10:16 PM

Sep 2022

Jarqui

(10,121 posts)

4. There are a lot of legal/law enforcement folks who have criticized this decision

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:43 PM

Sep 2022

There is a thread on here covering emptywheel's concerns
https://twitter.com/emptywheel

This Prof had a very interesting take
https://twitter.com/OrinKerr
1st post of several

Link to tweet

Someone else did a Neal Katyal thread on DU.com

Link to tweet

Bradley Moss has posted some good comments on this case.
Here's a couple of tweets from today

Link to tweet

Andrew Weissmann

Link to tweet

Glenn Kirschner

Link to tweet

Lawrence Tribe

Link to tweet

George Conway

Link to tweet

Many others below

Link to tweet

And there are more comments when you go to their twitter pages.

I'm sure there are many more people I've missed.

I did not see much in support of the judge.

I think the various opinions from all of these legal/law enforcement types is overwhelmingly against this judge's decision

crickets

(25,951 posts)

6. Wow, great collection.

Reply to Jarqui (Reply #4)

Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:49 PM

Sep 2022

I'm hoping all of this transforms from Twitter storms to RL consequences that include one very embarrassed judge whose ruling gets tossed out with the trash.

Jarqui

(10,121 posts)

9. Someone made the suggestion that DoJ ask her to reconsider.

Reply to crickets (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:00 AM

Sep 2022

When they do, they would have an FBI agent submit a declaration saying they need the docs for fingerprinting, etc to allow the Security investigation to proceed (roughly). That puts her in a bind.

I felt they should add a declaration from the White House claiming executive privilege on all the Presidential documents. That would wipe out the Special Master for executive privilege.

They could also provide rebuttal to a few of her inventions.

Then, if the judge still turns DoJ down, they have a more solid foundation for appeal.
But even if she presses on, they've taken a bunch out of her decision and may well not need to appeal.

I think this decision is a time wasting nuisance due to its poor quality. But that's all.

wnylib

(21,324 posts)

14. Toss the judge out with the trash, too.

Reply to crickets (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:36 AM

Sep 2022

dalton99a

(81,391 posts)

11. +1

Reply to Jarqui (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 6, 2022, 12:21 AM

Sep 2022

crickets

(25,951 posts)

5. Thanks, hatrack. This is very reassuring.

Reply to hatrack (Original post)

Mon Sep 5, 2022, 11:43 PM

Sep 2022

It's not the DOJ's first rodeo. They may have more up their sleeves than they've been able to share up to now. I know this sounds pollyanna-ish, but the tone of their last filing and the fact that they released such an incriminating photo with it leads me to believe they are in dog-with-a-bone mode. They have their quarry in their teeth and will not be letting him go.

It's difficult, but I've been trying not to get too riled about today, since the holiday meant that this wasn't a normal news day. tfg shopping for a judge, having the judge bend over backward (badly) for him, timing the release for a holiday... it's so maddening, but it's vintage stuff. 🙄

Tomorrow's news may change my mind, but that's tomorrow. Who knows? DOJ may smack things around again in the news first thing in the morning. We'll see.

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