wtf happened to lindsey graham?

[mopinko]

asked just now on joy reid. susan del persio says- i wish i knew what tfg had on him, because it doesnt make sense.
and- off the subject. an ittty bittty truth dropped, then move along.

hello? he is a serial blackmailer. david pecker's safe were an integral part of his power in nyc and elsewhere. do you think his friendship w jeffie was just about kinky sex? he's not an idiot. he knows there is a price to pay for hanging w a sleazebag like him. he didnt need him to get laid, he had a modeling agency. pecker came at a price, too.
the serious ppl he so badly wanted to like him looked down on that shit and he knew it. but it was worth it. if there wasnt kompromat to be bought, well, set it up.


say that.

[malaise]

1. Yep,Lindsey would watch a country destroyed rather than come clean about

His life. Fuck him too!

[mopinko]

2. it's way more than gay.

way, way, way more. it's dead boy level.

[malaise]

5. Not ruling that out

probably the orgies that Hawley spoke about

[mopinko]

6. not even orgies is that bad.

or coke for himself.

[WA-03 Democrat]

20. Madison Cawthorn but they are basically the same :0

[Marcuse]

42. I don't think Hawley was invited.

[BlackSkimmer]

33. So...you think Lindsey Graham is involved with the death of a child?

Is that what you're saying?

[Zambero]

36. A variation on the "ultimate scandal scenario"

The long-standing "dead girl or a live boy". A dead boy takes it a step further. And of course, there is absolutely no evidence to support this. Just a bit of speculation that whatever the goods are on Lindsey, it must be of a magnitude to compel him to take extraordinary measures to keep a lid on it.

[BlackSkimmer]

38. I know the old saying. I'm just curious that this poster keeps pushing it.

She must really believe that Graham is responsible for the death of a child.

[mopinko]

52. maybe not death, but def brutalization.

yes, i was using a well known expression.

[BlackSkimmer]

55. You really think Lindsey Graham "brutalized" a child?

All these other supporters of tfg, and no one ever raises this kind of thing. What about Hawley? Gaetz? Turtle? All the women who seem to adore the orange creep?

The man may or may not be gay, but I despise the fact that so called progressives think his sexual orientation somehow turns him into a pedophile or a killer. You do know the majority of pedophiles are straight men, do you not? Ugh.

[mopinko]

3. and every other fucker who jumped on that train

after calling him out loudly in 16.

[Emile]

4. It's not what TFG has on him, it's just Lindsey is an ass-kisser.

He had aways been a follower and an amusing sidekick.

[mopinko]

8. this is an order of magnitude diff and

this kind of dismissing serious shit is how we got here.

[mopinko]

19. my comments are directed at a supposedly lefty news show,

not my fellows here. sorry if that wasnt clear.

[Emile]

21. It's clear now. Thank you for clearing that up.

[Midnight Writer]

56. I think so, too. He is like a lamprey that attaches itself to the biggest fish around.

[BlackSkimmer]

58. This. He's just like the other tfg followers.

His sexual orientation has nothing to do with it.

Reading this crap on DU is so horrible, but no longer surprising.

[rampartc]

7. this is the most obvious "truth" ever.

trumps mentor roy cohn was a notorious extortionist, epstein, and trump himself was known for parties featuring his east european "models."

i've been wondering if what the fbi were really looking for during the famous panty raid (melania threw away her entire wardrobe because the fbi touched it) was epstein's video collection. of course, we'll never know.

[mopinko]

9. the fact that he had a modeling agency

and that it employed the same control tactics as all the other human traffickers....

[rampartc]

12. +1

a "modeling agency" in new york city can mean a lot of different things,

this is an interesting article from red state before trump turned even those whacky "conservatives" into true believers ........

https://redstate.com/imreontheissues/2016/04/28/pimping-donald-trumps-relation-trump-escorts-n58665

[mopinko]

13. damn. what i read was it was trump modeling.

and they did the typical exploitative shit.
but escorts? is there anyone who doesnt know that that is a synonym for hookers?

[Hortensis]

30. The search warrant, listing what the FBI was allowed to search for,

is on line. Epstein's video collection is not on it. Given their reason to believe tRump had stolen highly sensitive national defense documents, etc,, as listed on the warrant, it seems unlikely that they were really there to search for Epstein videos.

On the speculation end, it also seems likely that agents who might be suspected of unethical loyalties (if any remain on the investigative side instead of being cleaned out or exiled to HR) would be excluded from this project.

[SKKY]

37. But, if they found something in the execution of one warrant that was...

...illegal, or directly tied to another crime, they can collect that evidence as well and turn it over to the appropriate authorities. Happens all the time.

[dlk]

43. An excellent excuse for her to go shopping

n/t

[3Hotdogs]

10. Posted on D.U., last week,

Dead girl,

or

live boy.

[mopinko]

11. live boy isnt enough.

[Fozzledick]

54. Dead boy??

[Walleye]

14. I'm coming to the conclusion that Lindsey is just head over heels in love

He shows too much enthusiasm and irrationality in supporting this awful man. It may have started with blackmail, but he fell in love just like Trump did with Kim.

[mopinko]

15. the idea that he has stockholm syndrome

doesnt negate the fact that he is a hostage.
it doesnt excuse him. and if it was just him, it wouldnt matter.

[Walleye]

17. It certainly doesn't excuse him. And I believe it's both blackmail and Stockholm

I guess that combination describes and explains a lot of the behavior of these rabid trumpers

[Kid Berwyn]

18. The Operation

... Who knew what when? In Palo Alto, after Epstein’s conviction, he was a guest at a dinner for the MIT neuroscientist Ed Boyden that was hosted by LinkedIn co-founder Reid Hoffman. At the same dinner Elon Musk introduced Epstein to Mark Zuckerberg. Is money so powerful that it tramples all other considerations? As James Baldwin put it, “I can’t believe what you say, because I see what you do.”

One of the most remarkable moments in Tyrnauer’s documentary comes near the end, when it’s no longer possible to pretend that Cohn isn’t a liar and a fraud, when it’s no longer possible to deny that he lacks both shame and conscience. When Cohn was about to be disbarred in 1986 for defrauding his clients and for taking advantage of a dying and incompetent man, character witnesses began to emerge. There were letters to the court from William F. Buckley Jr., Barbara Walters, William Safire, and, of course, Trump, who wrote that Cohn “has been extremely loyal and extremely honest.” Were Cohn’s parties—was his protection—really that good?...

Source: https://www.townandcountrymag.com/society/money-and-power/a29130905/roy-cohn-documentary-wheres-my-roy-cohn/

[mopinko]

22. i dont assume that everyone who knew epstein is guilty of something

ppl like that HAVE to cultivate some legit connections. and w his money, they were easy to buy.
lots of ppl could say- well, i never saw that shit.

it's the ppl who went to a party, and later became a different person, that are the suspect ones.

[Kid Berwyn]

26. Of course. The point is blackmailing those that don't.

The ‘Epstein-Barr’ Problem of New York City’s Dalton School

JERRY LAMBE
July 13th, 2019, 10:50 am

Excerpt...

Epstein, who was charged last week by federal authorities in the Southern District of New York with sex trafficking with sex-trafficking and conspiracy to commit sex-trafficking, was a 20 year old college drop-out when he was hired to teach at Dalton by the school’s headmaster Donald Barr in the mid 1970’s. Donald Barr was the father of current United States Attorney General William Barr, who is currently overseeing Epstein’s prosecution.

According to at least one former student, Dalton alums have long joked about Barr’s hiring of Epstein..

“The joke has been [that] this is the Epstein-Barr problem at Dalton, said Harry Segal, a 1974 graduate who is now a senior lecturer at Cornell University and Weill Cornell Medical College, in an interview with the Huffington Post. Epstein-Barr is a type of herpes virus best known as the cause of infectious mononucleosis.

Scott Spizer, who graduated in 1976, said that Epstein was most remembered for his “persistent attention” on teenage girls in the hallways, recalled a night when the young educator showed up at a party where Dalton students were drinking.

“I can remember thinking at the time, ‘This is wrong,’” Spizer said in an interview with the New York Times.

Continues...

https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/the-epstein-barr-problem-of-new-york-citys-dalton-school/

[Lonestarblue]

24. Cohn, along with Trump's father, trained Trump to be a crook using money and blackmail.

Trump in turn trained susceptible Republicans to be corrupt—both in integrity and in grifting. They saw how much he had gotten away with his whole life, and how much he was getting away with as president and decided to join that team. It wasn’t a very far leap because most elected Republicans had no integrity to start with. They couldn’t have integrity and be part of a party that preached hatred and racism for decades. There are a few Republicans who show some integrity, like Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger, and a very few in the states, but it is essentially a party filled with dishonest people who think laws should not apply to them because they are important.

[Duppers]

28. Damn!

TY for posting this!!

Copied & sent out.

[Joinfortmill]

50. Wow. W.F. Buckley? Barbara Walters? Jeez.

[nowforever]

23. Clearly

Donald has information on Lindsey's personal life that if it became public would humiliate him and cause him to lose power and position. The one thing Lindsey knows for sure is that Trump will release this information should ever disobey him. He's a Gay man who fears being outed....

[Duppers]

29. Zactly.

[mopinko]

48. that's not a secret.

we know he uses escort in dc, and that he likes them young.
this is dead boy level.

[BlackSkimmer]

57. "We" know this, do we?

"He uses escorts in DC and likes them young." And how, pray tell do YOU know this?

This is some homophobic nonsense that doesn't belong here. I can't stand Graham either, but trying to twist him into to some sick child-killer is really beyond the pale.

I'd never have expected this from you. Smh.

[mopinko]

59. this has zero to do w him being gay.

it has to do w tfg's history of honey traps and blackmail.
i'm sure more than a few of his targets are married straight men cheating on their wives w adult sex workers. but most have been caught doing something that they are deeply ashamed of. that's how blackmail works. i've said over and over that this isnt about him being gay. if he was ashamed of that, he's have a beard.

and dead girl/live boy is an old saying that many other's here have echoed. whatever it is, it has to be horrid.

and his use of escorts has bene reported many times here, including that they call him a name that's against the tos so i wont repeat it.

i picked on lindsey cuz his name was called on the tv.

[BlackSkimmer]

62. "reported many times here".

Do you know how much fake crap I've seen "reported" here?

Just the other day, posters named someone as the pilot of that plane in Mississippi, and guess what? it wasn't true! How about the report MTG was on America's Got Talent? Remember that one? I've lost count of the fake news posts I've seen here.

I've seen so much fake stuff reported here that' I'd never believe it without corroboration. if you believe people "reporting it" here, no matter what it is, well, you're going to find yourself misled quite frequently. And he's been called homophobic names here too, right? And that's your proof?

"Nothing to do with him being gay"? yet then you bring up the spurious claims of an escort service and a homophobe name. Wow. Think about it.

"I picked on Lindsey cause his name was called on the tv". What? What does that even mean?

Honestly, I'm surprised at you.

[The Jungle 1]

25. Putin has the epstine information.

Putin owns trump and graham.
We are in a bad place.

[70sEraVet]

27. I remember Graham's frustration in 2015, after polling badly in his run for candidacy for President.

He was trailing FAR behind candidates who had virtually NO political experience, and who had ridiculously limited knowledge of foreign affairs.
"How am I losing to these people?"
Graham was the only sane, reasonable voice on the stage. I guess, if you can't beat them .....

[OAITW r.2.0]

31. Lindsey made a very abrupt 180 back flip in 2016 when he he was invited to one of Trump's courses

to play some golf and have a little chat with Trump.

After the chat, he was a changed man. The rest of the Republican Party had to go to Russian on July 4th to get their wake-up call.....I suspect that Republicans have been cultivating compromised candidates for many years to "whip" the caucus to vote Party line.

Unfortunately, it appears that Russia managed to get the dossiers on every Republican in Congress when they hacked into the RNC servers. You never heard much about that break-in, though....

[obamanut2012]

32. Nothing but blackmail, and we know about when it happened

The Kavanaugh hearings, mere weeks after McCain's death. They knew not to mess with Graham while McCain was alive.

[mopinko]

61. this

[Mr. Ected]

34. Let's not forget that the RNC was hacked by the Russians at the same time the DNC was hacked

It's not just Trump with kompromat on LG.

He may fear for his life. Who the hell knows. At his level, there's nowhere to hide, no witness protection programs, no quick answers.

Nevertheless, he's bringing down the country to save himself. The opposite of a patriot.

[mgardener]

35. I wonder what he has on Elise Stefanik?

She has done a hard right.
She is not even pretending any more.

I wonder if any of them think they will inherit Trump's base.

What they do not remember is Trump destroys what he cannot have.

[mopinko]

51. yeah, they sold their souls only to find out he's the only 1 who gets away w this shit.

[Cosmocat]

39. Nothing has happened to him

he has always been an impetuous dink.

[Heather MC]

40. Hmmmmm Lindsey Graham is potentially the most closeted man in the world

He is single, doesn't even have a puppy, never been married. Not a requirement in politics but when you're trying to be the "party of family values" it probably helps to have married a beard at some point.

I would imagine Donald Trump knows who keeps his company at night. 🤔

[flying_wahini]

44. IMO - I think it may have been about kinky sex over the years but Lindsey's case is about MONEY.

I think he took money from Putin and that’s what it is about. I think he sold us all out for a buck.

[mopinko]

49. well sure. when they have you by the balls, they sorta have to feed you.

carrots and sticks is how this works. but i do agree that the dirtiness of the money matters.

[Brainfodder]

45. We have too few leaders for so many people?

9 in supreme court overseeing for roughly 400,000,000.

435 for 400,000,000

100 for 400,000,000

1 for 400,000,000

What could go wrong?

Pretty much anything?

[Escurumbele]

46. All this time and now people are wondering? It has been clear for a long time

One day he was calling trump the names he rightly deserves, the next day he is invited to play golf and suddenly Lindsey changed his views on the SOB...any doubts something was said during the 18 holes that changed Lindsey? One has to be very naive to think nothing happened during that golf outing. Lindsey heard of all the crap the SOB has on him, so it was "join the team or suffer the consequences".

[Joinfortmill]

47. Yup. Lindsey should come clean or retire.

[moondust]

53. trafficking?

young boys?



TFG's boss in the Kremlin has a spy network that he would use on anybody.

[mopinko]

60. i think it's either a young boy, or a very ugly kink.

and i'm fine w a kink that can only hurt your reputation. the line is where someone, esp a minor or an unwilling person, gets hurt.