Inevitable

[NanceGreggs]

In life, some things are random, some things are possible or probable - and some things are simply inevitable. And Trump's downfall is now inevitable.

More importantly, even the PTB in the GOP - despite their threats of "riots in the streets", their feigned outrage, their "we're ready for our close-ups, Mr. DeMille" performances in front of the nation's cameras - know inevitability when they see it.

Those halcyon days of "we can get through this, we can spin this, we can get on top of this" are now gone. The previously tried-and-true talking points sound less like rallying cries, and more like punchlines to incredibly unfunny jokes.

Delaying tactics are to be expected. Legal arguments attempting to defend the indefensible are par for the course. Ridiculously-contrived rhetoric is as predictable as it is laughable.

Trump is going down - and whether that happens today, tomorrow, next week or next year, the outcome will be the same.

It is inevitable - and what's more, it always has been.

[Emile]

1. Judgement Day for Trump is near!

[kacekwl]

12. Doesn't sound near to me.

Trump and the rest will be dead and gone before any judgement happens.

[robbob]

28. I'd settle for dead and gone...

as long as it comes before 2024. Preferably preceded by a good spell of displays public drooling imbecility, so flagrant that even his most ardent supporters can’t deny the reality of it.

[Wounded Bear]

2. Your keyboard to god's monitor...nt

[Mme. Defarge]

9. Good one!

[Justice matters.]

3. Imagine an indictment (many would be awesome) the day after Blue Wave 2.0 (both chambers).

Imagine the party in 2 months.

GOTV

[underpants]

4. Depends on this "Special Master"

Do they drag their feet? Does Trump’s team get any interaction (delay)?

Either way, I mean he got caught with his hand in the cookie jar what 3 times on just this. Nancy is right. It’s inevitable.

Many have said it here many times - winning that fluke election is the worst thing that’s ever happened to him.

[Justice matters.]

7. I hope the DOJ will propose a list of very competent impartial SMs.

And not drag this with a long list of appeals.

There aren't a million pages to go through.

So the job could be done over with in a few days.

Anyway, the crime of Obstruction is as clear as spring water.

[The Wizard]

41. The Judge who granted Trump's request

for a Special Master has to be removed from the bench and disbarred for abuse of office, obstruction and and enabling espionage .

[Brainfodder]

10. Sadly I think TFG has so much hidden away to discover, the shit will likely die before we know it?

Those more recent pictures of his face without makeup, ghoulish?

I just have that feeling, the very day they go to arrest him, he checks out.

We are left to ponder if justice served or not, but regardless, world record celebrations that week!

Clueless Republicans, some of them, just sad, but thank Fools News and Hate Radio on your way out.

[fightforfreedom]

5. The Jan 6th investigations are moving right along.

Many people are gong to be indicted, I have no doubt at all.

[pwb]

6. Pukes always overstep when they have power

they can't help it. Women will take them down locally and Nationally despite any new events. Pukes are toast. It feels good to keep them squirming though.

[Joinfortmill]

29. 👍

[gab13by13]

8. The only things inevitable

are death and taxes on the poor.

[hurple]

11. I'll believe it when I see it

How many times has it been "this time Trump will go down"?

How many times has it failed?

How many times has he not only "gotten away with it" but then flaunted getting away with it for months and years?

Yeah... I'll believe it when I see it at this point.

[RevBrotherThomas]

13. Goalpost moving...

The only group that does more of it than the "trump is going down" crowd are the MAGATs predicting when Trump will be reinstated since his election loss.

I agree - I will believe it when the gavel comes down in his sentencing hearing.

[progressoid]

14. +1

[sop]

17. +2

[867-5309.]

21. +3

[inthewind21]

25. +4

[maxsolomon]

15. Pollyanna Greggs

He plays for time in the courts - always has. The courts allow this; it's partly structural.

No matter how the DOJ reacts, the Special Master ruling pushes any reckoning for the purloined documents out, what, 9 months, a year? The courts move s l o w l y. A year from now * has declared for '24 and the DOJ policy puts him off-limits.

And that assumes the DOJ was ever going to do anything beyond retrieve the documents for the NARA.

He'll be dead before he pays - for anything.

[OverBurn]

16. I hope and pray you are right. I'm afraid he may get away with it all.

[llashram]

18. while I will agree

to the inevitability of d. trumps downfall I am still miffed by this current delay. That NO ONE at the DOJ neither anticipated nor saw the crack the snake was able to slither through throwing more b.s. into the game. The wringing of hands of the tv pundits and the explanations of delay only causes me more consternation as a citizen of this flawed yet at one time vibrant democracy... d. trump being the person he is has by all accounts probably done serious damage to our national security. With this current delaying tactic does this give our enemies among maggots or "foreign visitors" to the home more time to disperse USBs full of our guarded secrets that may have been given for money or leveraged by the extreme narcissist d. trump?

I'm just trying to keep faith that "no one is above the law" even the alleged traitor d.trump.

[dlk]

19. That's the thing with those missing a conscience like TFG:

as with meteors, they brightly right up to the moment they crash and burn.

[Cozmo]

20. I have to believe that DOJ planned for this insane ruling and will respond accordingly

Merrick Garland is no sitting duck waiting for some flunky judge to thwart his efforts without planning for this current eventuality.

[LudwigPastorius]

22. "Trump's downfall is inevitable"

I really, really want that to be true, but…

No less than Keith Olbermann stated the same thing almost five years ago. And, this was before Trump incited a coup attempt right out in the open.

Never underestimate the ability of wealth and power to skirt the American justice system.

[rubbersole]

24. Well, that was fucking depressing.

[Hortensis]

23. I think you're right. The wheel is turning.

As for those who think a good end requires tRump "going down?" or just want to get him? Much as I'd love to see him die in prison, in this time of giant, desperate problems, making that happen doesn't even make my top 10 priorities.

Prison for a criminal president should be good for the nation, but that's far from guaranteed. As it is, chances are excellent that over half the nation would oppose actually imprisoning tRump, with most support for it middling at best.

And then the possible costs. Would, for instance, it be worth losing the presidency and congress to the Republicans in 2024, halting meaningful action to stop climate change at least yet another 8 years of President DeSantis or Mastriano? Couldn't happen? Sure, it could. Nixon, who even Republicans didn't like before we opened our criminal investigation, was reelected in a 49-state sweep after we did.

[Joinfortmill]

30. He could do us all a favor and drop dead.

[Hortensis]

31. :) And not impossible.

[ariadne0614]

40. Narcissistic Collapse is another possibility.

Thom Hartmann did a fascinating interview with Dr. Bandy Lee yesterday https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017765003), and further explained Narcissistic Collapse in his newsletter:

“When narcissists are publicly outed as failures, particularly if the outing is public and high-profile, it often provokes a condition called narcissistic collapse.

For a narcissist like Trump with considerable power, the ability to harm organizations/institutions, or who can meaningfully threaten damage to other people, this is the moment of maximum danger for those around him.”

https://hartmannreport.com/p/is-something-called-narcissistic

[Hortensis]

43. :) I've been hoping for massive decompensation ever since his

campaign rages made it look really possible. He held together remarkably, though; apparently all those rallies were good medicine.

Still, when he finally sees the party's over and his supporters find someone else? Hopefully, frankly. I have no compassion for him. I'm more afraid he'll be lionized sufficiently to keep him bucked up until he's too old to go grab attention. Nixon mostly disappeared for 20 years. Only prison could make tRump mostly disappear.

It is what it is. Once I can stop worrying about him, I intend to ignore and mostly forget about him.

[ariadne0614]

44. Forgetting about him seems like an unattainable luxury.

The interview with Dr. Bandy X. Lee left me with the impression that his collapse is imminent. When it happens, she fears the impact it will have on his cult followers. Things could get dangerously ugly. She says the only thing that might mitigate his continued influence on his followers is to take him into custody, but that should have happened a long time ago.

[Hortensis]

46. Well, anything's possible. Sounds a little contradictory

to suggest we should fear what his collapse would do to his followers and simultaneously recommend taking him into custody. But whatever.

I think he himself is becoming less dangerous, and his followers suffering from lack of dependable leadership. Thank goodness he hasn’t succeeded in replacing his Twitter communication function! That’s really crippled him.

[ariadne0614]

47. It does seem contradictory, and I'm not a psychotherapist, but I trust Dr. Bandy X. Lee.

Just in case I misunderstood the person with credentials and a proven track record, I'm going to listen to the interview again and see what I'm missing.

[Hortensis]

48. Me too. I'd forgotten about her. I was outraged at the

American Psychiatric Association's morally bankrupt (and HIGHLY, Judge Aileen Cannon-level suspicious) claim that the "Goldwater rule" had to be applied to tRump, that they couldn't even make a qualified statement even though they had over 30 years of recorded and documented behaviors available for review, including thousands (!) of court records, (including depositions), almost endless recorded personal interviews and statements, autobiographies, etc., from a man who loved to act out in public. She spoke out and was fired from Yale for it.

[ariadne0614]

49. Exactly. She was right, and had the integrity to follow her Duty to Warn.

That's why I trust her.

[ariadne0614]

51. Okay, so I watched the video again.

Although she fears what will happen if *Rump is taken into custody, she's more concerned about what will happen if he isn't. She says the failure to hold him accountable and remove him from the sphere of public influence is worse than allowing him to continue wreaking havoc. She has extensive experience with cults and prison gangs, and knows what she's talking about. That said, removing him from the scene should have happened a long time ago.

[wiggs]

38. He is the villain of many stories. Cruel, evil, sociopathic. Greedy beyond measure. And

immediately recognizable in any movie or book as the villain. But as we observers/readers know...he is also tortured, small, limited, stunted, broken. Sad. Scared. Pathetic, but dangerous.

He is doing incalculable damage to those around him and to those over whom he has influence. The damage is intentional, a balm for his wounds. I hope deep down he recognizes that his twisted ambition is a cover for the emptiness and that he experiences a great inevitable pain. The most perfect, best pain. Daily.

He may not end up in a brick and mortar prison, but he is in prison nonetheless.

[Hortensis]

39. Yes. I also hope he's at least his own punishment. There can

never be anything like justice for all the people whose deaths and suffering he's caused.

But he's also literally adored and his "leadership" craved by many millions. They wince when he embarrasses himself, but think he's saving America and have supported everything he's done.

Functional insanity, and despicable, but this is the America and people our leaders have to work with and somehow bring through to a better place again.



Have a nice day.

[Torchlight]

26. I often look to my late grandfather to better express myself.

He told me in my first year of college when I wanted to double my hours to graduate quicker, 'you can get it done quickly, or you can get it done correctly.'

Keeping my eyes focused on the degree rather than the side-shows that distracted many of my peers allowed me to graduate correctly instead of not-at-all-but-more-quickly.

I'm confident he'll be faced with many undesirable consequences of his actions.

[Hortensis]

32. Yes to that last. Of course, that could describe the last 30 years

since his demented father became unable to stave off the worst of the consequences, but I don't think the rest of his life will be happy and it's going to be loaded with anxiety and troubles at best for some while.

[Joinfortmill]

27. I agree, and it will go down quickly when it happens.

[Tickle]

33. He is not the picture of health

I checked out his rally in PA on Saturday and there was a closeup of him. I thought he looked terrible very unhealthy looking. He may die before he goes to jail. I don't make those decisions on life and death but he looks more like death than life

[Captain Zero]

34. But yet he spoke for TWO HOURS

If we could get him speaking that long four times a week, he might check out after like 3 weeks.

[Tickle]

35. LoL let's go for it ☺️ NT

[Botany]

45. "He is not the picture of health."

It looks like he is in God's waiting room all ready.

Link to tweet

[Tickle]

50. Lmao 🤣😂🤣🤣🤣 NT

[Woodwizard]

36. Hope you are right.

Many many many times I heard over the years how Rush was going down this time for certain. He went down but not from any disgrace. What is redeeming is how quickly he was forgotten about.

I have low expectations that the bloated turd will ever really be held accountable. I hope he goes to jail or the trump name becomes so toxic that real bankruptcy happens. I can hope........

[Blue Owl]

37. K&R

[The Wizard]

42. Unfortunately

Republicans have gamed the system and equal justice under law is just a slogan. I'm thinking he'll leave the stage feet first from heart failure. It would be more entertaining seeing him carted away in a straight jacket.

[elocs]

52. Going down...just what does that mean?

It could mean lots of things, like death, which is inevitable for all of us. Because Trump's court cases will take years to even come to trial, then there will be the hung juries, retrials, and then if convicted there will be years of appeals. Trump may simply never live long enough to go to any prison and even if he did, it will be a minimum security country club prison. Or, Putin may just grant Trump the political asylum that he will have paid for.