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This judge will have to answer this complaint
Link to tweet
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malaise
(268,949 posts)How does this work?
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,008 posts)Who is this Twitter account to have standing, and what exactly will be accomplished? And what is the Judiciary Council? This sounds questionable.
DetroitLegalBeagle
(1,922 posts)Of the district the judge is in. Then hope and pray that their complaint is one of the few that actually get acted upon. Only about 1-2% of federal judicial complaints actually see any formal investigation.
ancianita
(36,024 posts)I could be wrong, but this looks a lot like what a complaint re a ruling is.
https://www.justice.gov/jm/civil-resource-manual-215-mandamus
In the federal courts, these orders most frequently appear when a party to a suit wants to appeal a judge's decision but is blocked by rules against interlocutory appeals. Instead of appealing directly, the party simply sues the judge, seeking a mandamus compelling the judge to correct his earlier mistake. Generally, this type of indirect appeal is only available if the party has no alternative means of seeking review.
The All Writs Act gave the "Supreme Court and all courts established by Act of Congress" the authority to issue writs of mandamus "in aid of their respective jurisdictions and agreeable to the usages and principles of law."
Further, 28 U.S. Code § 1361 gave federal district courts "original jurisdiction of any action in the nature of mandamus to compel an officer or employee of the United States or any agency thereof to perform a duty owed to the plaintiff."
https://www.law.cornell.edu/wex/mandamus
Which, if the 11th decides in favor of the plaintiff, the DOJ, it could refer the whole case to the DC Circuit or tell Cannon to review and follow the law. Which will undoubtedly force her to rescind her ruling on the 'special master.' And so the DOJ can proceed in its investigation, since Trump and lawyers will have exhausted all their delay plays.
onenote
(42,699 posts)From their description it doesn't sound like a petition for a writ of mandamus to me, but I haven't seen what they actually filed.
ancianita
(36,024 posts)ancianita
(36,024 posts)Google Images doesn't show anything filed by the DOJ today. Sorry.
I'm sure we can expect to see a copy of the complaint soon, though.
Actually, though it doesn't, the tweet should have a copy available. It's weird that it doesn't.
onenote
(42,699 posts)filing a "complaint" against the judge.
Not worth the paper its written on, if it was actually written and filed.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)THEN when an appeal is filed by the DOJ, these same issues can be pointed out in fairness, that it isn't just the DOJ who KNOWS this ruling breaks the law, but even the PEOPLE can obviously see the law isn't being followed and special treatment afforded during an ongoing investigation.
In fact with this in the works the DOJ could get even more aggressive and bring much more legal force to the issue.
Because these are "nobodies" who can see the truth plainly, the judge is REALLY out of bounds with it and the DOJ has not only a solid case, but public support.
onenote
(42,699 posts)Volaris
(10,270 posts)IMAGINE how much TrumpCo will scream like stuck hogs if this judges order gets reversed..
ancianita
(36,024 posts)This writ is a serious filing re a seriously flawed ruling, and would probably make the judge use rule on law on executive privilege and give up her stated urge to preserve her notion of Trump's "reputational damage."
onenote
(42,699 posts)But no one seems to have seen a copy and it was filed by a group with no standing. And it is unlikely that the government would file a motion for a writ of mandamus since it has the option of filing an appeal together with a request for stay of the district court order pending appeal.
ancianita
(36,024 posts)And the standing issue is solved with the DOJ raising the issue of Cannon's poorly constructed ruling to the Circuit.
Volaris
(10,270 posts)onenote
(42,699 posts)SheltieLover
(57,073 posts)jimfields33
(15,777 posts)House can easily get the impeachment though with simple majority. At least it will be on her record.
calimary
(81,220 posts)We DO NOT need a judge on the bench whose rulings are virtual valentines to the donald for appointing her to that bench.
We see through you, girlfriend, and we know where your loyalties lie, and who you clearly and obviously recognize as your benefactor.
PortTack
(32,757 posts)GreenWave
(6,723 posts)TigressDem
(5,125 posts)secondwind
(16,903 posts)yankee87
(2,170 posts)This judge is hoping TFG gets back in and shell be on the Supreme Court. At best she should be impeached, at worse, maybe an indictment for collusion.
agingdem
(7,848 posts)no more playing nice...Cannon's career is over...she's toxic...
dchill
(38,472 posts)But only after 4 seconds of deep deliberation.
former9thward
(31,984 posts)You may notice this is a click bait complaint.
"If you don't want to miss any news or developments as the the Judicial Council of the Eleventh Circuit responds to our misconduct complaint against Judge Cannon, give us a follow."
All they want is more followers on Twitter.
Ocelot II
(115,680 posts)You cannot use this process to obtain automatic disqualification of a judge presiding over a case. In addition, you cannot use this process to challenge the correctness of a judges decision in a case. A judicial decision that is unfavorable to you does not alone establish misconduct or a disability. Under the Act, a complaint challenging the correctness of a judges decision will be dismissed. If you wish to challenge such a decision, you must do so before that court or on appeal, and not by filing a judicial conduct or disability complaint.
https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-conduct-disability/faqs-filing-judicial-conduct-or-disability-complaint
This won't go anywhere absent evidence of some kind of improper or ex parte influence.
onecaliberal
(32,826 posts)I would bet my savings account someone in the tick's orbit made all of this happen. It's payback for her appointment.
question everything
(47,470 posts)SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)I was almost certain this was the case, but scrolled down to see if someone had already looked it up.
The remedy for a bad decision is not going to be a disciplinary action (unless there is something sinister involved) but an appeal to the next higher court.
wnylib
(21,433 posts)wanted to know more about Cannon's appointment and how Trump's case came before her, it might be interesting. I am not saying that there is anything inappropriate to find, just that the possibility exists, considering how Trump operates.
SCantiGOP
(13,869 posts)How about a secret cellphone tape of the conversation where Trump promised the judge a Circuit Court appointment if she ruled as he wanted? That would be Christmas, our birthdays and winning the lottery all rolled up in one.
reACTIONary
(5,770 posts)msfiddlestix
(7,278 posts)wish there was a way to keep these from being posted.
it feels like it's kind of fraudy.. like the Nigerian letter in the old days.
msfiddlestix
(7,278 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)This OP has been posting tweets from numerous randos on twitter. This is just the latest.
This account is not verified by twitter and has less than 1800 following. Not sure what the motivation is here.
question everything
(47,470 posts)be kicked out unless registering
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former9thward
(31,984 posts)I wonder why....
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Curious what you think.
former9thward
(31,984 posts)Why would I have any thoughts about her? I have previously posted in other threads that I don't think her ruling will have any significant effect on whatever happens in this matter.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)I mean, she's an example of the bought and paid for clowns we have many years of suffering through.
I wonder what Judge Scalia would think?
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)tritsofme
(17,376 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Always revealing.
BradAllison
(1,879 posts)Love to hear it. I'm sure it's fascinating.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)So that makes no sense. Im sure you meant your which is possessive, as in my opinion.
I have no opinions of the judge, except that I feel certain shes a tfg tool.
That still doesnt negate the fact you made an ad hominem attack on another poster.
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BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Reading comprehension is key.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)You are consistent, I give you that.
As another longtime DUer always says, profiles are interesting.
Solomon
(12,310 posts)SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Yet here we are.
PortTack
(32,757 posts)There and sidestep this whole mess.
Anyone with more knowledge?
SoCalDavidS
(9,998 posts)Just like many people here on DU, she believes that there is still a Rule Of Law in America, and that nobody is Above it.
WRONG!!!
This is why America is well on it's way, or already at, the point of being a Failed Nation. Slowly, more people are starting to realize this. She will too, at some point.
onenote
(42,699 posts)Does McQuade think DOJ is incompetent or corrupt in not making that motion when it would have been timely. If a party fails to object to venue and seek a change before the case is heard, the issue is waived and can't be raised on reconsideration or appeal.
PortTack
(32,757 posts)DOJ was tripped up by the ridiculous request of a special master? Even with that, the entire legal world, and the DOJ was taken aback by the even more ridiculous ruling by a partisan judge
onenote
(42,699 posts)but were able to prepare a detailed written filing that made lots of other arguments and then present a strong oral argument in open court.
I've seen nothing that supports the argument that the Southern District of Florida was an improper venue for a case brought with respect to the fruits of a search warrant issued by that court and the resultant search conducted in the Southern District of Florida.
PortTack
(32,757 posts)FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Trump went to Mar-a-lago over 100 times while he was president and often worked from there. How do we know that the documents involved weren't already there at the end of 2020? If so, the crime occurred in FL, not DC.
Also - remember that it's the DOJ that started the ball rolling in the 11th circuit. It's a bit late for them to claim that they should be able to transfer to a friendlier court.
Samrob
(4,298 posts)Bobstandard
(1,304 posts)live love laugh
(13,100 posts)No standing but a case could be made that as a national case all citizens everywhere have standing regarding potential threats resulting from disclosure.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)It's like submitting a complaint to the state bar about a crooked attorney.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)No answer as yet.
Rando twits lol.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)They're verified by Facebook and based in Maryland.
https://www.facebook.com/calltoactivism/
People tend not to give out their personal names on the internet for fear of being doxxed or attacked by MAGAts.
Almost everyone here posts anonymously, including you.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Nuff said.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Takket
(21,562 posts)this so called complaint is clickbait nonsense and will go nowhere.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)It is like how you would file a complaint about a crooked lawyer with the state bar.
Roland99
(53,342 posts)Looking up Call to Activism there is really no transparency as to they're funding or purpose.
They seem to have a pattern of tweeting and asking a template type question as a followup and then a request for people to follow
otchmoson
(68 posts)Does anyone know how to locate information regarding Cannon's citizenship. Her mother was Cuban; she was born in Colombia. Was her father an American citizen? Did she apply for naturalization? Just curious.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,008 posts)Do you think an undocumented immigrant is a judge? Or just looking to spread rumors? Dont bother answering.
otchmoson
(68 posts)I find it interesting how little we know about the judge. I don't have research tools. I could find that she was born in Colombia; that she received her J.D. from Michigan; that she was a member of the Federalist Society and the Delta Delta Delta sorority. I could find where she was employed, and the questionnaire she had to complete before her appointment to the bench. But here parentage, her relocation to the U.S., and her citizenship status were not available through the Google machine.
FBaggins
(26,729 posts)Surprising to some... there is no citizenship requirement in the constitution.
But more than 21 Democrats would have voted against her if there were any reason to doubt it. Just think of the political power of (just before the 2020 election) we could point at an "illegal" getting past Trump.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)there's speculation - and then there's inappropriate speculation.
Zeitghost
(3,858 posts)was based on racism and bigotry. Why would you choose to engage in similar behavior?
Ocelot II
(115,680 posts)"You cannot use this process to obtain automatic disqualification of a judge presiding over a case. In addition, you cannot use this process to challenge the correctness of a judges decision in a case. A judicial decision that is unfavorable to you does not alone establish misconduct or a disability. Under the Act, a complaint challenging the correctness of a judges decision will be dismissed. If you wish to challenge such a decision, you must do so before that court or on appeal, and not by filing a judicial conduct or disability complaint." https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-conduct-disability/faqs-filing-judicial-conduct-or-disability-complaint
BootinUp
(47,141 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)Not just anyone can file a suit.
Maraya1969
(22,478 posts)decision. She is obviously pandering to tfg. She made a case about it hurting his reputation as if that means something. She is obviously singling him out for special treatment just because he was once president of the US and may run again. And the horrible thing about that is HE is demanding special treatment also.
Goonch
(3,607 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)They're not even verified by twitter.
They have what, 1700 followers?
I'm no twitter person, but even I know that's small potatoes.
Lettuce Be
(2,336 posts)You are looking at the wrong number.
BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Theyre not verified.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)They have over 830,000 Facebook followers and are verified on Facebook:
From their Facebook page:
CALL TO ACTIVISM is among the Top 25 most-engaged American Political Facebook Pages according to the Pew Research Center.
With Facebook memes that reach up to 50 million Americans a month, CALL TO ACTIVISM informs and impacts change. We are a group of concerned citizens and social media practitioners that strive to counter Right-Wing lies with indisputable facts and decency.
OUR WORK
Our primary vehicle for change is Digital Activism through our powerful and informative memes.
We deliver hard-hitting news and action-based infographic headlines to millions of followers each day.
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effect positive change. Visit CALL TO ACTIVISM on Facebook every day and continue to LIKE and SHARE our daily headlines.
They also have a website:
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quaint
(2,561 posts)AZSkiffyGeek
(11,008 posts)Roland99
(53,342 posts)I've been watching them the last several months and their m.o. is very predictable.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)BlackSkimmer
(51,308 posts)Well all wait here.
48656c6c6f20
(7,638 posts)This will never work. Go back to sleep.
Handler
(336 posts)vlyons
(10,252 posts)Thank you Call to Activism!!!
She has proven herself to be a partisan non-objective unqualified judge.
UTUSN
(70,683 posts)Hekate
(90,645 posts)Just A Box Of Rain
(5,104 posts)LetMyPeopleVote
(145,130 posts)Ocelot II
(115,680 posts)"You cannot use this process to obtain automatic disqualification of a judge presiding over a case. In addition, you cannot use this process to challenge the correctness of a judges decision in a case. A judicial decision that is unfavorable to you does not alone establish misconduct or a disability. Under the Act, a complaint challenging the correctness of a judges decision will be dismissed. If you wish to challenge such a decision, you must do so before that court or on appeal, and not by filing a judicial conduct or disability complaint." https://www.uscourts.gov/judges-judgeships/judicial-conduct-disability/faqs-filing-judicial-conduct-or-disability-complaint
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Examples of judicial misconduct may include the following:
using the judges office to obtain special treatment for friends or relatives;
accepting bribes, gifts, or other personal favors related to the judicial office;
engaging in improper ex parte communications with parties or counsel for one side in a case;
engaging in partisan political activity or making inappropriately partisan statements;
soliciting funds for organizations;violating rules or standards pertaining to restrictions on outside income or knowlingly violating requirements for financial disclosure;
engaging in unwanted, offensive, or abusive sexual conduct, including sexual harassment or assault;
treating litigants, attorneys, judicial employees, or others in a demonstrably egregious and hostile manner;
creating a hostile work environment for judicial employees;
intentional discrimination on the basis of race, color, sex, gender, gender entity, pregnancy, sexual orientation, religion, national origin, age, or disability;
retaliating against complainants, witnesses, judicial employees, or others for participating in the judicial conduct and disability complaint process, or for reporting or disclosing judicial misconduct or disability;
refusing, without good cause shown, to cooperate in the investigation of a judicial conduct or disability complaint or enforcement of a decision under the Rules; and
failing to call to the attention of the relevant district chief judge or circuit chief judge any reliable information reasonably likely to constitute judicial misconduct or disability.
This list does not include all the possible grounds for a complaint.
You may complain about actions taken by a judge outside their official role as a judge if the conduct is reasonably likely to have a prejudicial effect on the administration of the business of the courts, including a substantial and widespread lowering of public confidence in the courts among reasonable people.
Her opinion showed truly egregious bias in favor of Trump, like her basing her decision on her concern for Trumps "reputational harm" over a lawfully conducted search, something no unbiased judge expresses for any defendent.
More people should be filing complaints against the miscreants Trump put on the bench. So what if it doesn't result in any consequences for the Judge? What's wrong with at least trying, and getting the complaint on record?
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)This complaint is not from the DoJ
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I was using the royal we. I should be clear it's my opinion. But, I'm right. 😎
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)It's just noise, and clickbait. But you already knew that.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)If you are not interested in what this activist group filed, then keep scrolling. It serves no constructive purpose to bash them in this thread. They are just trying to get an anti-Trump & Pro-Biden message out. Why do Republicans' work for them by calling it "just noise, and cluckbait"? That is needlessly hostile to a group that is on our side.
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)But if you're interested, have at it. I'll pass.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)We need more progressive folks like this on social media. Social media is saturated by right wing trolls.
SlimJimmy
(3,180 posts)I'm not wasting my time. Have a nice day.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)this is not legal remedy (and it's questionable even as activism), it's just attention seeking.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)I disagree that it is "questionable activism." "Attention seeking" is one of the key things activists do. It's what helps change things, and moves public opinion. As Speaker Pelosi famously said, "Public sentiment is everything."
If you don't want to help them, then at least don't bash them, especially on a Democratic discussion board.
TigressDem
(5,125 posts)OK... this is good.
Actual complaint is better than an appeal.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,922 posts)Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)I can't wait til the SC loopholes for removal are "found"?
Jose Garcia
(2,594 posts)No she won't. That's not how it works.
Novara
(5,841 posts)... no judge appointed by a person should EVER rule on any cases involving that person, full stop.
We have got to have better judicial ethics. She should have been forced to recuse.
AZSkiffyGeek
(11,008 posts)Or his other executive orders?
Is that how this works?
Novara
(5,841 posts)Forgiving student loans is not a criminal act.
Kingofalldems
(38,452 posts)orthoclad
(2,910 posts)All I see is "Link to tweet".
Justice matters.
(6,925 posts)Lock her up.
YoshidaYui
(41,831 posts)glad some one here picked it up!
zentrum
(9,865 posts)......forever, preventing indictments of Rump in time to effect the 2024 elections.
stopdiggin
(11,296 posts)"Ah .... Thanks, guys? Think maybe we got this .. ?"
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