Dr. Oz on Incest: More Than First Cousin? 'Not a Big Problem.'

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NEW: Unearthed audio shows Dr. Oz saying incest is “not a big problem” as long as “you’re more than a first cousin away.” He added his daughters don’t want to have sex with him because “my daughters hate my smell... Girls don’t like their fathers’ smell.”

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Dr. Oz on Incest: More Than First Cousin? 'Not a Big Problem.'
It's incredible that this man really thought he should run for office after publicly weighing in on people "smashing" their cousins, among other things.
2:15 PM · Sep 6, 2022

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The problem with being a celebrity before you enter politics is that you’ve definitely already said too much. And considering that Dr. Mehmet Oz, the Republican nominee for the Pennsylvania Senate, has already been saying too much as a candidate, you know the things coming out of his mouth must have been pretty bad before.

In an interview with morning radio show The Breakfast Club in February 2014, host Angela Yee asked Oz to weigh in on a question sent in by a listener about someone struggling with an incestuous relationship.

“I’m going to ask you this and you tell me if this is safe for this person, okay?” Yee prompted Oz. “Well, he said, ‘Yee, I can’t stop smashing my cousin.’ That means sleeping with.” (Thank you, Yee.)

She continued to read out the question: “‘We hooked up at a young age and now in our 20s, she still wants it. No matter how much I want to stop, I always give it to her. Help me.’ What advice would you give that person?”

Hm. I might refer them to counseling about how to rebuild proper familial relationships and set boundaries. But Oz took it in a different direction:

Oz: If you’re more than a first cousin away, it’s not a big problem.

Yee: Okay, so second cousin is fine to smash.

Charlamagne: It’s so funny, cause I knew that.

DJ Envy: How did you know that?

Charlamagne: Cause I’m from the country! Third cousins?

Oz: Yeah. It’s fine.

*snip*

[The Third Doctor]

1. Smh

They should make a documentary about this bizarre election.

[bucolic_frolic]

2. Oh. And, um, Dr. Oz, you asked your daughters then? Is that what you just said?

[Nevilledog]

45. Fetterman ftw

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From Game of Thrones: These brother and sister characters had an incestuous relationship, including kids.

[PittBlue]

3. The man is insane.

[Trailrider1951]

4. What the actual F???

These conservative men are deranged. And cruel.

[Ocelot II]

5. His daughters don't want to have sex with him because

... “my daughters hate my smell... Girls don’t like their fathers’ smell.”

Eww. Just... ewww.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

6. I have way bigger problems with the daughter comment than the cousins one ...

AFA cousin sex goes, as long as it's consensual and age-appropriate, who cares? Not me, not my business, I am not the moral arbiter of other people's sex lives. Even 1st cousins mating for one generation is unlikely to cause problems in the young, it's only when it happens generation over generation, let alone 2nd cousin which has almost no risk in that regard. And obviously pregnancy is not a given when sex happens.

The daughter part though is just ... really fucking creepy and weird.

[Ocelot II]

7. Yeah, that was especially gross.

His daughters don't want to have sex with him because they don't like his smell? Might there also be other reasons? Did he ever ask them why? It's creepy that he even thinks those things.

[Nevilledog]

9. Yeah

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NEW: Unearthed audio shows Dr. Oz saying incest is “not a big problem” as long as “you’re more than a first cousin away.” He added his daughters don’t want to have sex with him because “my daughters hate my smell... Girls don’t like their fathers’ smell.” https://jezebel.com/dr-oz-on-incest-more-than-first-cousin-not-a-big-pro-1849501672…
3:06 PM · Sep 6, 2022

[uponit7771]

14. +1,

[MadameButterfly]

40. The interview doesn't say his daughters don't want to have sex with him

He said fathers put out phermones which daughters don't like the smell of. He did say his daughters don't like how he smells, implying this is because of those phermones. He didn't however suggest they'd otherwise be having sex--that leap was in the minds of his detractors. When I listened to the interview I was surprised not to find the statements either Brian Tyler Cohen or Meidas Touch inferred from his interview.

It's weird enough that he said what he said, but let's not make it more than it is. He was talking in the context of claiming there is some biology that helps people not want to have sex with people whose gene pools are too close to theirs. It sounds odd, but it's in a whole different league than Trump talking about being turned on by his daughter.

The guy is goofy and out of touch enough that we don't need to exaggerate or make things up to beat him. if we do, it will backfire. Fetterman has been doing just fine with real stuff, with NJ, houses, and crudite.

[Sky Jewels]

18. Agreed, H_L!

It's sooooo disgusting!!!

[cbdo2007]

8. Anyone who has looked up their heritage on Ancestry.com knows the second cousin thing happens

all the time. I mean at what point realistically would everyone else draw the line, third cousins? fourth cousins?

The daughter thing is super creepy and crazy though. I mean I hate the guy and everything, just the second cousin headline seems like a nothing burger.

[Mariana]

24. Even first cousin marriage is legal in a bunch of states

and was pretty common back in the day. It apparently also doesn't count as incest in the Bible, since it isn't prohibited.

[Retrograde]

31. It was big with European royals in the 19th century

Queen Victoria of the UK married her first cousin, and several of her children married their first cousins, and look how that turned out. Uh,wait...

Actually, first cousin marriage was not uncommon in the 1800s. Charles Darwin married his first cousin, and a first-cousin marriage is planned in the novel "Jane Eyre". Probably because until the mid-1800s people didn't travel much, and eventually they ran out of non-relatives in their village.

[wnylib]

34. First cousin marriages used to be common

among all the classes.

Among royals and nobles, it was because they usually (with a few exceptions) married only within their own class and rank. Also, to keep property in the family.

Among some people in the lower classes, who owned plots of their own land (e.g. yeoman farmers), it was to preserve land ownership in the family and avoid splitting it up through inheritance.

In small villages where people seldom travelled, except maybe to the next village over, everyone was related within a few generations.

Them was pretty much true for most of Europe (and early America), not just in Britain.

Edward III of England had several children whose descendants intermarried often. When they fought each other over succession to the throne in the Wars of the Roses, they were also referred to as the Cousins' Wars.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

10. 3rd cousins getting married is fine in most states.

I know several people that married their 3rd cousin and their kids are fine.

[Dorian Gray]

23. First cousins can get married

in almost half the states.

Seriously.

I mean, it's a thing, apparently.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

32. They can in Wisconsin if they can prove they can't procreate.

So there's that.

[Mariana]

33. Most states that allow it don't have any such restrictions.

[obamanut2012]

35. Exactly

[Dorian Gray]

38. I believe it's totally legal in New York State

This is a discussion I never foresaw having on DU, though. lol

[FloridaBlues]

11. With Oz now going in hard against Fetterman about his health

And if he’s fit to be a Senator I say bring to light all his past crazy statements and snake oil deals through the years .

[Biophilic]

12. He is just plain gross and I work hard at being open minded

Euuu. Just plain gross.

[tenderfoot]

13. the resident wingnuts... "what's wrong with that?"

LOL

[EYESORE 9001]

16. I was going to say something similar

They see his creepy musings as validation of their own incestuous fantasies.

[Stuart G]

15. On Tuesday September 6, Oz in the afternoon, or whenever this was reported...Oz lost the November

2022 Election. Wait till this one gets around. And how does he refute this???

One thing is for sure, ..Oz thought that no one would find this, and also..." like his hero Trump..."

..........."That he was sure that he could get away with it."........

[Sky Jewels]

17. Well, I think I'll skip dinner now ...

... and possibly for the rest of my life ...

[sdfernando]

19. I think a lot of people have no idea what a 2nd or 3rd cousin is.

I've met too many that think the daughter/son of their cousin is their 2nd cousin, not their 1st cousin once removed.

[PCIntern]

20. K and R and

I think I am going to puke.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

21. Dr. Oz says incest is "not a big problem"

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[MissB]

22. going for the Pennsyltucky vote

apologies to PA residents.

[FakeNoose]

43. I don't think so - he actually said this in February 2014

... long before he ever decided to run for the Senate.

I'm sure Dr. Oz wishes he could wave a magic wand and make this disappear, but it's too late now.

[dalton99a]

25. Keep talking, asshole

[tishaLA]

26. Please god no info about the conversation with his daughters

when he learned they didn't want to have sex with him. I can't.

[CTyankee]

36. My father never appeared until after his shower and shave every morning.

Here is the after shave lotion he used: https://www.worthpoint.com/worthopedia/vintage-1950-charbert-thee-sing-after-2069990627

It's now a classic.

I never remember my father in anything but a suit and tie, except summer visits to the pool.

[Solly Mack]

27. Sick

Just sick.

[NickB79]

28. Scientifically, he's right on both counts

2nd cousins marrying have pretty much the same risk of giving birth to children with genetic abnormalities as non-related couples.

https://www.popsci.com/marrying-cousins-genetics/

And there's ample evidence that smell prevents incest in primates and humans.

https://www.theglobeandmail.com/technology/science/relatives-smell-bad-for-reason-study-says/article4138744/

https://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2009/12/091202205625.htm

[Ocelot II]

30. Still, the way he said it was super creepy...

[Polybius]

29. He's not really wrong

2nd cousins getting married isn't truly incest.

[Torchlight]

37. What a creepy, creepy little fella.

Asserting his daughters don't want to have sex with him because he smells off is a rather big red flag with a lot of arrows, sharpies, and notes drawn in.

Careful, Doc. Don't reveal too much before the election, not every televangelist that gets caught with a hooker in the prayer chapel is given a raise by the congregation.

Kinda glad I don't live up there and deal with his voice. Oh, wait! I have to deal with Cruz, Paxton and Abbott's voice every day, never-mind!

[MadameButterfly]

41. he didn't assert this. listen to the interview

I detest the guy, but spreading false rumours isn't the way to win

[LuckyCharms]

39. "Girls don't like their fathers' smell."

I'll take "Sentences that I've never seen before now" for $500 please.

[rogue emissary]

42. This is disgusting but about the same as actually chasing a man down with

A loaded shot gun.

I feel sorry for Pa voters.

[allegorical oracle]

44. Gee... my dad didn't smell bad. Oz is strange, approaching the edge of creepy. nt

[LisaL]

47. My feelings exactly. That is such a weird thing to say.

NT

[tblue37]

46. World War I was a quarrel among the branches of Queen Victoria's extended family.