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Nevilledog

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Tue Sep 6, 2022, 06:56 PM Sep 2022

New cert petition asserting the 14th Amendment establishes fetal personhood has been filed



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The petitioners include two fetuses at 15-weeks and 34-weeks, respectively.

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A new cert petition asserting the 14th Amendment establishes fetal personhood has been filed:
https://supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-201/236882/20220901130349933_Petition%20Brief.pdf
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https://www.supremecourt.gov/DocketPDF/22/22-201/236882/20220901130349933_Petition%20Brief.pdf

QUESTIONS PRESENTED

1. Whether, in light of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), the Rhode Island Supreme Court erred in holding that the unborn Petitioners, regardless of gestational age, are not entitled to the protections and guar- antees of the due process and equal protection clauses of the United States Constitution?

2. Whether, in light of Dobbs v. Jackson Women’s Health Organization, 597 U.S. ___ (2022), the Rhode Island Supreme Court erred in holding that the unborn Petitioners, regardless of gestational age, categorically lacked standing to advance their claims?



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New cert petition asserting the 14th Amendment establishes fetal personhood has been filed (Original Post) Nevilledog Sep 2022 OP
I would think a person would have to have a personality. patphil Sep 2022 #1
Who talked to these fetuses? Farmer-Rick Sep 2022 #2
Born or naturalized.... doesn't mean from conception. In fact, clearly obviates that criterion for Karadeniz Sep 2022 #3
Oh, you watch. The court will state that because petitioner CANNOT speak for itself, Volaris Sep 2022 #4

patphil

(6,144 posts)
1. I would think a person would have to have a personality.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 07:31 PM
Sep 2022

A person implies self-awareness, and self-directed actions.
It's a long way from a fetus showing initial nervous system activity to the point where it actually thinks. Even rudimentary thought processes don't imply any self-directed thought.
No personality, no person.

Farmer-Rick

(10,134 posts)
2. Who talked to these fetuses?
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 07:31 PM
Sep 2022

How did they get the fetuses to agree to file? Where did they sign or agree to these petitions? How do they know what the fetuses want? Do the fetuses really want to live at the expense of their dead and/or injured mothers? How do we know the fetuses aren't altruistic? Why are we allowing fetuses legal actions we don't allow children?

Seems like a bunch of hocus pocus to me.

Catholics be crazy. When you make rulings based on superstitious religious nonsense, you get talking fetuses. Next up talking snakes and women getting pregnant without sex.

Karadeniz

(22,461 posts)
3. Born or naturalized.... doesn't mean from conception. In fact, clearly obviates that criterion for
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 08:01 PM
Sep 2022

establishing citizenship right.

Volaris

(10,266 posts)
4. Oh, you watch. The court will state that because petitioner CANNOT speak for itself,
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:12 PM
Sep 2022

It's up to This Most Liberal of Courts, to speak ON BEHALF of said petitioner, and will damnsure uphold petitioners right to assert its own life and well-being, even via the Court or a third party advocate (like say, whatever backwards-ass State has decided that the weemins don't get to make any decisions).

You fuckin WATCH.

(On Edit) Conservatism easily lends itself to authoritarian inversion. But it takes a really real, smart, HATEFUL mother of a fucker to invert liberalism to the same goal.

And Alito will use this case to teach a fucking Masters Class...

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