Material on foreign nation's nuclear capabilities seized at Trump's Mar-a-Lago

[Nevilledog]

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NEW via Wash Post: A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month

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Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
Some of the documents seized on Aug. 8 detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them.
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A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property.

Some of the seized documents detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them. Only the president, some members of his Cabinet or a near-Cabinet-level official could authorize other government officials to know details of these special-access programs, according to people familiar with the search, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to describe sensitive details of an ongoing investigation.

Documents about such highly classified operations require special clearances on a need-to-know basis, not just top-secret clearance. Some special-access programs can have as few as a couple dozen government personnel authorized to know of an operation’s existence. Records that deal with such programs are kept under lock and key, almost always in a secure compartmented information facility, with a designated control officer to keep careful tabs on their location.

But such documents were stored at Mar-a-Lago, with uncertain security, more than 18 months after Trump left the White House.

After months of trying, according to government court filings, the FBI has recovered more than 300 classified documents from Mar-a-Lago this year: 184 in a set of 15 boxes sent to the National Archives and Records Administration in January, 38 more handed over by a Trump lawyer to investigators in June, and more than 100 additional documents unearthed in a court-approved search on Aug. 8.

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Wonder who leaked this?

[WarGamer]

1. Yeah... who is leaking?

[Nevilledog]

7. Okay...hear me out.

Someone from DOJ leaked to get it out in the media that there was really seriously sensitive documents stolen by trump. Things that they couldn't come up with a reason (library, memoir) why trump would have it..... Then they indict trump and whoever gave him access to this intel, doing an end-run around Cannon and her Special Master insanity.

[MOMFUDSKI]

12. It is a chess game for sure.

Who calls 'checkmate' in the end?

[gab13by13]

41. The Washington Post reported

the military-related nuclear documents at least a month ago. They were listed on the search warrant S-FRD documents.

[housecat]

43. Movie material?

[Kingofalldems]

13. A great American, that's who.

[WarGamer]

24. I'm intellectually honest...

The DoJ shouldn't be leaking anything.

I don't have flexible standards depending on whose ox is being gored.

[Kingofalldems]

27. Once again, a great American leaked the information.

This is war against fascism.

[WarGamer]

28. lol... ok

[Kingofalldems]

30. Ain't funny to me.

[WarGamer]

33. This is George Orwell from 1945

I can link some reading for you if you'd like.




Indifference to reality: “All nationalists have the power of not seeing resemblances between similar sets of facts… Actions are held to be good or bad, not on their own merits but according to who does them, and there almost no kind of outrage… which does not change its moral colour when it is committed by ‘our’ side.”

[Nevilledog]

22. I'm wondering if Grenell or Patel could get this info.

The number of people who could access this has to be very small.

[Turbineguy]

2. Who in their right mind in the Intelligence community

would give trump access to such sensitive documents?

[Nevilledog]

4. This shit had like its own guard.

How the fuck does it go missing for 18 months???

[yorkster]

8. Exactly - the man who said Russia , if you're listening...

in his campaign before he was even elected.

[msfiddlestix]

10. I'm trying to remember that Rethug Senator Trumped picked for intel Cabinet position, starts with R.

Him. whatever the fuck his name and position was. He never gets mentioned, but dollars to donuts he is linked to this shit.

[yorkster]

14. Was it Ratliffe? n/t

[msfiddlestix]

15. YES! thank you....

I never ever see his name come up in this scheme, but he's the first one I'd be investigating if I were an investigator with the power of the FBI and DOJ.

thanks for the reminder.

[yorkster]

16. I remembered him vaguely - just did the Google

and he was actually the DNI from 2020 - 2021.
Jeebus..

[msfiddlestix]

19. Exactly. Do you remember when he was a Senator?

No words, and then out of the blue trumped made that extremely sensitive appoinment..

He has been on my mind ever since the beginning of investigations. I never ever see, hear or read his name associated with any of the supbpeonas etc... and I always wonder, why the fuck the not?

To me, he's a stand out anti democracy thug, thief, enabler and very much deep into this.

somehow he has managed to keep a low profile which is really curious.

[yorkster]

31. Just saw that it is Ratcliffe not Ratliffe. My error.

He was a rep. from Texas, I think. Gawd I hope this pushes DOJ . Feels like hostage nation right now.

[Kittycatkat]

3. I wonder who Trump sold this info to? Why else would he steal it?

[Nevilledog]

5. Let them try and argue this was for his library or memoir.

[Farmer-Rick]

6. Putin, China, North Korea

Hungry, Turkey and the Saudis.

Anyone who would pay him. He's scum.

[Nevilledog]

20. Sarah Kendizor just reupped this tweet. I take from it she thinks Israel is involved somehow.

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In Trump’s final hours in office, he pardoned the Israeli state operative who recruited convicted American spy for Israel Jonathan Pollard. The DOJ signed off on the release of Pollard, who then fled to Israel on the private plane of Trump megadonor Sheldon Adelson.

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The convicted spy Pollard was greeted at the airport by Netanyahu, a lifelong close friend of the Trump and Kushner families. That relationship is described here:

Sarah Kendzior
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The dangerous alliance between the criminal Kushner and Netanyahu families goes back decades. An excerpt from HIDING IN PLAIN SIGHT: http://hidinginplainsightbook.com
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4:58 AM · Aug 27, 2022

[Hermit-The-Prog]

46. There always seems to be a billionaire in the background of this shit.

[Nevilledog]

47. We need to outlaw billionaires.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

49. Bring back the income tax rates of Eisenhower's time.

Let them re-invest in the economy that makes them wealthy, or surrender those windfalls to the tax man for re-investment in infrastructure. The more one makes above the median, the more one owes to the system that supports that wealth. "Loopholes" are simply incentives to invest in growing the pie for all.

[ancianita]

50. Adelson had already died on Jan 11 at that point, so it was his people who

hustled Pollard over to Netanyahu. Adelson was the Zionist billionaire in chief for Israel in America. By the time he died he'd probably already bequeathed billions to Israel, along with the aircraft and some of Trump's classified intel to Israel.

[Hermit-The-Prog]

53. Don't look for much change there ...

Miriam, a physician born in Israel, has devoted much of her life to the science of drug abuse, operating clinics for addicts in Las Vegas and Tel Aviv. She also shared her husband's passion for Republican candidates in the US and for politics in her native Israel. The pair, who met on a blind date set up by one of Miriam's friends, were the single largest contributors to US politicians last year, giving some US$215 million, according to the Center for Responsive Politics.

In some respects, Miriam has been as active as Sheldon on the political front. Alongside her husband, she successfully championed US recognition of Jerusalem as Israel's capital. President Donald Trump awarded her the Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian award, in 2018.

https://www.straitstimes.com/business/companies-markets/sheldon-adelsons-casino-empire-passes-to-widow-with-his-longtime

[ancianita]

60. Can't wait for a wealth tax to get passed in the 118th.

When he was alive, Adelson gave Trump's campaigns many millions, and so of course Jerusalem and a US embassy there. The Adelson team likely made sure that Pollard didn't get to Israel empty handed, either. Mossad's probably given him a complete body/face makeover and heading up some ops.

[LudwigPastorius]

51. My guess?

Info about Israel, sold to the Saudis.

[IronLionZion]

56. That's what I'm thinking too

Israel wants their capabilities kept secret and Saudis paid Kushner billions of dollars.

[Ferryboat]

9. If anyone else mishandled documents like these, they wouldn't see the light of day for years!

Lock this guy up until a trial is held. Throw away the key afterwards.

[Kingofalldems]

11. Here's Trump and his MAGA trolls response:

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[Nevilledog]

17. That clip has always made me want to puke.

How could anyone vote for someone who acted like that???

[magicarpet]

18. tRump habitually trashes the FBI and say the top secret,...

... documents were declassified long ago. That the FBI were being vindictive when Mar-a-Lago was ransacked and swat teamed while he and the family were out of town.

I don't blame the DOJ and the FBI for trying to set the record straight and countering the lies upon lies being spread by tRump and his minions.

The only way the government can really defend themselves from the preposterous lies told by team tRump, is to release factual information. And the limited way to get the truthful info out is backdoor press releases, (ie - media leaks).

They are being forced to leak info to counter the overwhelming fire hose of relentless layers of tRump lies and wild inaccuracies specifically designed to confuse reality and enhance tRump's case.

tRump is forcing the government to correct the record and information leaks is one of the few avenues available to them to communicate the truth and cause the outrageous lies to be disregarded as disinformation.

tRump loves to muddy the waters,.. turn reality upside down,.. and confuse matters to give people a splitting headache. This way folks quickly gather their things and run for the nearest exit to get away from this flim flam conman. This is all by intention and by design - it permits tRump to walk away scot free. Not suffering any
repercussions for his fraudulent conduct and/or criminality. Then he quickly moves on to his next con job and new scam he cooked up to rip his next victim off.

Snow job,.. rinse,.. repeat.
Snow job,.. rinse,.. repeat.
Snow job,.. rinse,.. repeat.

Ad nauseam ....

[fightforfreedom]

26. I agree. Good post.

[Nevilledog]

32. More from the article....US info too

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NEWWWS -- Details about nuclear capabilities of a foreign government were in records seized at trump's Mar-a-Lago in early August. As well as details of US programs so secret that seniormost natsec officials didn't know they existed.
me & @DevlinBarrett

washingtonpost.com
Material on foreign nation’s nuclear capabilities seized at Trump’s Mar-a-Lago
Some of the documents seized on Aug. 8 detail top-secret U.S. operations so closely guarded that many senior national security officials are kept in the dark about them.
5:10 PM · Sep 6, 2022

[triron]

36. Judge Cannon has comprised our national security.

Shouldn't there be consequences for her?

[Nevilledog]

37. She's too stupid to understand the implications is my guess.

[triron]

38. My question still stands.

[Nevilledog]

40. Why should something happen to her if she didn't know the type of intel?

I think she's incompetent and a partisan hack. Could she be impeached for it? Maybe. I'd they find out trump people had contact with her after her assignment? Arrest & impeached.


Realistically, unless they can show she colluded with Trump, nothing will happen to her.

[triron]

52. The n she should have not taken the case.

[Nevilledog]

54. Oh, I agree completely.

[fightforfreedom]

21. Lets see, the country could be Iran, Kushner got 2 billion dollars from who?

This is going to get really bad.

[Nevilledog]

25. This guy is usually a good source

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Seriously, there are only two options here:

1. These documents relate an enemy’s missile defense and nuclear capabilities. If that gets out, a good hostile intelligence agency would almost certainly be able to figure out at least some of our sources and methods.

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2. These relate to an ally.

I don’t even need to explain how much of a shitshow *that* would be.

In either scenario, there’s no non-nefarious reason for Trump to have hidden this material from investigators.
5:58 PM · Sep 6, 2022

[Roland99]

23. Israel?

[fightforfreedom]

29. Could be. I guessing Iran, Trump hates Iran.

[DET]

34. Doesn't matter who he hates...

All that matters is who will pay for the info. My guess is Israel, sold to Saudi Arabia.

[Nevilledog]

35. Also seeing this supposition from govt people on Twitter.

Saudis would probably pay 2 billion for this info..... or Israel.

[Roland99]

63. Considering he's been working for years to help provide nuke tech to S. A. and UAE and....

[Roland99]

64. Here's a good thread...

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[herding cats]

39. My first guess, too. nt

[gab13by13]

42. Why not Russia?

Wouldn't Russia want to know what we know about its nuclear capabilities?

The Washington Post reported about these nuclear documents a month ago. I posted about them numerous times asking for Trump to be arrested. The documents were listed in the search warrant, S-FRD.

[Nevilledog]

44. Disagree that they reported about it.

Just because they had S-FRD (Formerly restricted data) on the search warrant does not indicate they were certain those docs would be found at Mar-a-Lago. S-FRD designation was listed with many other types of classifications they were looking for.

Of course, there may be info in the redacted affidavit that says a witness saw nuclear documents. For all we know, there could be more nuclear documents they know were taken at other properties, or he could have sold and transferred the originals.

The designation on the search warrant was for domestic not foreign nuclear intelligence.


https://www.energy.gov/sites/prod/files/hss/Classification/docs/CTI-Training-RD-FRD-Briefing.pdf


I don't have a security clearance, but I've personally dealt with hundreds of search warrants.

[gab13by13]

48. I heard Frank Figliusi say that when the search warrant was released,

he circled S-FRD with a yellow marker.

[Nevilledog]

55. It's a type of document that can't be declassified by the President alone.

Seems to me most of the discussion when the S-FRD designation came up was how Trump's bullshit *declassification fairy* story wouldn't apply to nuclear docs.

Certainly there was also talk about how bad having any nuclear docs would be.

[EndlessWire]

45. We figured he did that, didn't we?

If this goes viral, maybe that stupid Judge will read it, and, you know, "feel bad" about her ruling. I only hope that the Gov. appeals, gets a patriotic Judge, one who can apply the law, and then maybe writes a scathing opinion of the ruling she did.

Trump is evil. It wasn't just about him. It was about all of us and the peril we face in an uncertain world. And he is/was willing to sell us down the river. Boy, I will not shed a tear if he were to drop dead from eating cheeseburgers.

Who thinks that you could put classified docs into a "Presidential Library?" For the public to view?? Well, that one won't fly, either.

[brettdale]

57. If Trump gets away with all this

There is really no hope.

[DallasNE]

58. . This Sounds Like Something

That was part of the Court filing on why naming a Special Master was a bad idea it was ordered to be unredacted.and is now being published. My guess.

[Nevilledog]

61. No. Everyone would have reported that, they wouldn't have to say "sources"

[Scalded Nun]

59. What scares me the most is knowing now what was discovered and then

having to wonder what has already been sold or traded away.

[Nevilledog]

62. Imagine the worst. It's worse than that.