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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 08:52 PM Sep 2022

Today I posted how stupid the Trump judge was getting involved in the secret document investigation.

Now we learn some of the secret documents found were about another nations defense capabilities, including nuclear secrets. This judge is in way over her head getting involved, disrupting an extremely serious national defense investigation. She, like all of us had no idea how much worse things could get. You have to be out of your mind to treat this case the way she is. Now we get a leak. Now we know this is really, really bad and will most likely get worse.

This judge is an idiot.

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Today I posted how stupid the Trump judge was getting involved in the secret document investigation. (Original Post) fightforfreedom Sep 2022 OP
Bet she's wishing she had this info before making that decision. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #1
She is way out of her league. fightforfreedom Sep 2022 #3
Bet she consulted the Federalist Society for legal expertise. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #4
Absolutely she did Rebl2 Sep 2022 #12
She is SCOTUS Material! StClone Sep 2022 #20
And that's the point. TomSlick Sep 2022 #67
I hope so, too. But I am sure that McTurtle wnylib Sep 2022 #62
She touched Trump. How soon will she die? Kablooie Sep 2022 #29
probably leaked BECAUSE of what she did. ZonkerHarris Sep 2022 #32
No doubt in my mind. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #35
Oh, it gets better. Well, worse really b/c there's not much that can be done to stop her: NullTuples Sep 2022 #64
She doesn't care! She was appointed by Trampie Trump! imanamerican63 Sep 2022 #2
She stayed loyal until end. multigraincracker Sep 2022 #7
...to a lifetime appointment JohnnyRingo Sep 2022 #14
anointed trof Sep 2022 #70
Aloose cannon misses its mark! cornball 24 Sep 2022 #5
Lucy .. Bo Zarts Sep 2022 #44
Love it!! cornball 24 Sep 2022 #61
It would not surprise me if she provided the guidance tonTrump's legal team Bristlecone Sep 2022 #6
Wray I still a wild card for me Ponietz Sep 2022 #8
The judge is a 4 star zealot who only does what the Federalist Society guidelines dictate. Ford_Prefect Sep 2022 #9
But a USEFUL idiot! usonian Sep 2022 #10
The Washington Post reported this at least a month ago. gab13by13 Sep 2022 #11
Half of the 11th circuit was appointed by Trump/Federalist Society mn9driver Sep 2022 #19
Yes, I agree, but the other option gab13by13 Sep 2022 #24
Is there some basis for the world court to get involved in the prosecution of tfg??? nt in2herbs Sep 2022 #13
No. former9thward Sep 2022 #40
Since at least one other country's stolen secret nuclear documents are included that's a good idea housecat Sep 2022 #15
It's the equivalent of 'just find me 11,000 votes' AdamGG Sep 2022 #16
Probably gonna get caught in other surveillance... JT45242 Sep 2022 #17
Ya think? inthewind21 Sep 2022 #47
Probably gonna get caught in other surveillance... JT45242 Sep 2022 #18
Ridiculous. former9thward Sep 2022 #41
They already threatened obstruction... JT45242 Sep 2022 #42
Really inthewind21 Sep 2022 #49
Link? onenote Sep 2022 #56
They already threatened obstruction... JT45242 Sep 2022 #43
Again- Link onenote Sep 2022 #57
Any judge with sense would've told them to go back to... brush Sep 2022 #21
I thought so too, gab13by13 Sep 2022 #25
Then the trump people could've went to the 11th Circuit. brush Sep 2022 #26
That's true. It had to be an article three judge SlimJimmy Sep 2022 #34
It's true inthewind21 Sep 2022 #50
Lock her up! LeftInTX Sep 2022 #22
She's also stupidly continues a real national security threat in ruling for a "special master." ancianita Sep 2022 #23
The fact that she is ruling on a case involving the person who nominated her to the bench is insane. LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #27
Do you inthewind21 Sep 2022 #52
Sure. LudwigPastorius Sep 2022 #58
She needs to face consequences. triron Sep 2022 #28
Smarter than though? czarjak Sep 2022 #30
Are there judges above her that can overrule this? AdamGG Sep 2022 #31
Ummmm inthewind21 Sep 2022 #53
I don't think she is in over her head Ahpook Sep 2022 #33
Is or isn't she over her head? OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #38
I'm going THERE Bread and Circuses Sep 2022 #36
LOL, not shocking any DUer that was paying attention since 2000. OAITW r.2.0 Sep 2022 #39
Oh clearly. No doubt. mahina Sep 2022 #45
AND DENVERPOPS Sep 2022 #48
She's basically a politician who schmoozed her way up the feeding chain Warpy Sep 2022 #37
This judge is seditious Mr. Ected Sep 2022 #46
Agree. triron Sep 2022 #51
Judges are usually extremely understanding of the government's national defense interests. Martin68 Sep 2022 #54
Our judicial system is full of judges like her. Gonna have to weed 'em out somehow. Joinfortmill Sep 2022 #55
Stupid people who were conned into doing criminal acts for him going to prison, duforsure Sep 2022 #59
When you're smarter than The Generals, judges are really easy.pickings. czarjak Sep 2022 #60
I hope she gets disbarred Hekate Sep 2022 #63
She didn't make an effort or cared. LiberalFighter Sep 2022 #65
check this out!! YoshidaYui Sep 2022 #66
This judge needs to be prosecuted for obstructing justice. Emile Sep 2022 #68
None of this matters. She was paying her debt... dchill Sep 2022 #69
I do not think the nature of the materials involved stopdiggin Sep 2022 #71
I just heard Hillary explain how a top secret document would come to her is no one was available True Blue American Sep 2022 #72

OAITW r.2.0

(24,393 posts)
1. Bet she's wishing she had this info before making that decision.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 08:57 PM
Sep 2022

Oh wait, she probably did...but thought that the DOJ wouldn't release it. Now, her reputation is total toast.

Guess the DOJ isn't too worried about this jurist's reputation....she's already signaled where her allegiance lies.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,393 posts)
4. Bet she consulted the Federalist Society for legal expertise.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:05 PM
Sep 2022

She didn't know that they are the Legal Arm of the Organized Crime Party. She was expendable.

TomSlick

(11,096 posts)
67. And that's the point.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:27 PM
Sep 2022

She understands the Republican standards for appointing judges. Experience or even a modicum of legal understanding is irrelevant.

If she harbors any hope of elevation to a federal circuit court or (God forbid) SCOTUS, all that matters is blind loyalty to Trump. The decision is a job application.

OAITW r.2.0

(24,393 posts)
35. No doubt in my mind.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 11:33 PM
Sep 2022

She didn't appreciate the NS implications. That's why she should have recused herself....too closely aligned with a corrupt President and her Party influences.

Hope she gets the Jeff Clark treatment.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
64. Oh, it gets better. Well, worse really b/c there's not much that can be done to stop her:
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 03:33 PM
Sep 2022

"Trump Judge Rejects Amicus Briefs Filed by Former Trump Administration Officials"

https://www.esquire.com/news-politics/politics/a41106889/aileen-cannon-trump-special-master/

The federal judge who issued an unusual Labor Day ruling appointing a special master to review thousands of files seized from the 45th president’s Mar-a-Lago estate issued a brief order on Tuesday refusing to allow several onetime GOP officials from filing an amicus brief in opposition to the special master appointment. In late August, several anti-Donald Trump former officials who served under Republican administrations moved to submit a “friend of the court” document that would help U.S. District Judge Aileen M. Cannon sort through the various legal issues at stake in the unprecedented criminal inquiry into the former U.S. head of state.

Cannon, in a paperless order with one sentence of explanation, dismissed the need for the ex-federal and state officials’ thoughts on the matter. “Upon review of the Motion, the Court appreciates the movants’ willingness to participate in this matter but does not find the proposed appointment of amici curiae to be warranted,” the judge wrote. Additionally, six other attorneys sought leave from the court in pro hac vice motions to formally take part in the case as the counsels-of-record for the seven anti-Trump prospective amici. The Trump-appointed district judge denied those efforts as well.


Esquire's source: https://lawandcrime.com/high-profile/judge-refuses-to-allow-anti-trump-former-gop-administration-officials-to-weigh-in-on-special-master-but-appreciates-their-willingness-to-participate/

JohnnyRingo

(18,622 posts)
14. ...to a lifetime appointment
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:55 PM
Sep 2022

She no longer owes DJT anything other than a promise to be fair and just.
Maybe she drives a lifted and primered Dodge Ram with a pair of Trump flags flapping from the bed.

Bristlecone

(10,121 posts)
6. It would not surprise me if she provided the guidance tonTrump's legal team
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:22 PM
Sep 2022

Which in turn allowed her to write her ridiculous ruling.

Ponietz

(2,955 posts)
8. Wray I still a wild card for me
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:39 PM
Sep 2022

Last I checked his FS card is current.
And the former General counsel of Gazprom was only separate by a degree from Putin.
He was hand picked.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
9. The judge is a 4 star zealot who only does what the Federalist Society guidelines dictate.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:43 PM
Sep 2022

Dismantling Federal authority at any level is their primary goal.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
11. The Washington Post reported this at least a month ago.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 09:49 PM
Sep 2022

The judge did exactly what she was told to do. DOJ needs to go to the appeals court tomorrow and ask them for an injunction to the stay the judge imposed. DOD cannot work with the FBI re: these nuclear documents with that stay imposed.

mn9driver

(4,422 posts)
19. Half of the 11th circuit was appointed by Trump/Federalist Society
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:11 PM
Sep 2022

And we know about SCOTUS. The corruption goes all the way to the top.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
24. Yes, I agree, but the other option
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:37 PM
Sep 2022

is letting judge Cannon in charge. No way both sides agree on a Special Master by Friday, then what? Does judge Cannon just appoint someone? There are no easy solutions.

former9thward

(31,961 posts)
40. No.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:33 AM
Sep 2022

The International Criminal Court was established in 1998. The Clinton administration refused to join. Every administration since then has refused to join and the U.S. does not recognize its jurisdiction.

JT45242

(2,258 posts)
17. Probably gonna get caught in other surveillance...
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:01 PM
Sep 2022

It was no accident that she was where this landed.

Trump's attorney if record in the document is known to have lued on document for obstruction charge, should likely have led to warrant for phone. Text, and email.

I would bet dollars to donuts that there was ex parte communication. This judge is going down for obstruction and hopefully espionage as well.

JT45242

(2,258 posts)
18. Probably gonna get caught in other surveillance...
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:03 PM
Sep 2022

It was no accident that she was where this landed.

Trump's attorney if record in the document is known to have lued on document for obstruction charge, should likely have led to warrant for phone. Text, and email.

I would bet dollars to donuts that there was ex parte communication. This judge is going down for obstruction and hopefully espionage as well.

former9thward

(31,961 posts)
41. Ridiculous.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:37 AM
Sep 2022

She is not "going down for obstruction and hopefully espionage". I would happily take the bet whether it was dollars or donuts.

JT45242

(2,258 posts)
42. They already threatened obstruction...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:31 AM
Sep 2022

The DOJ already warned her about an obstruction charge, that seems a safe bet. I doubt that it would have gone into the first set of document if they didn't already have her dead to rights if she ruled in his favor.

Espionage is wishful thinking for everyone involved given the contents of the documents and their classifications.

JT45242

(2,258 posts)
43. They already threatened obstruction...
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 07:31 AM
Sep 2022

The DOJ already warned her about an obstruction charge, that seems a safe bet. I doubt that it would have gone into the first set of document if they didn't already have her dead to rights if she ruled in his favor.

Espionage is wishful thinking for everyone involved given the contents of the documents and their classifications.

onenote

(42,660 posts)
57. Again- Link
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:12 PM
Sep 2022

I think the safe bet is that the DOJ didn’t threaten her and has no plans to try to charge her.

brush

(53,758 posts)
21. Any judge with sense would've told them to go back to...
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:18 PM
Sep 2022

the assigned magistrate judge. Why get involved in that hot mess. Fed judges are there for life. They can't fire her.

gab13by13

(21,280 posts)
25. I thought so too,
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:39 PM
Sep 2022

but I was told that judge Reinhart didn't have the authority to appoint a Special Master. I don't know for a fact if that was true.

brush

(53,758 posts)
26. Then the trump people could've went to the 11th Circuit.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:43 PM
Sep 2022

That's what they would've had to do if she refused to do it. That's what the legal pundits are saying.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
50. It's true
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:58 AM
Sep 2022

He's a Magistrate. He can't do it himself. But he can assign it to another judge, if he agrees.

ancianita

(36,009 posts)
23. She's also stupidly continues a real national security threat in ruling for a "special master."
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:35 PM
Sep 2022

Because of the current Senate makeup she can't even be impeached for her oblivious stupidity about executive privilege. I hope we get a clear enough Senate majority to do it when the 118th is seated.

LudwigPastorius

(9,126 posts)
27. The fact that she is ruling on a case involving the person who nominated her to the bench is insane.
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 10:50 PM
Sep 2022

When Trump's lawyers got the case assigned to her, it should have been an instant recusal.
 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
52. Do you
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:01 PM
Sep 2022

feel the same way about the judges he appointed that ruled against him in the 60 election fraud cases he filed?

LudwigPastorius

(9,126 posts)
58. Sure.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:15 PM
Sep 2022

I would prefer that none of those Federalist Society fuckers had been elevated to their current positions at all.

Ahpook

(2,749 posts)
33. I don't think she is in over her head
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 11:29 PM
Sep 2022

Don't think for a moment that Trump hasn't been in her ear recently.

She should be or will be thrown out of her position asap!

Bread and Circuses

(133 posts)
36. I'm going THERE
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 11:33 PM
Sep 2022

Trump's election win in 2016 is highly suspect. Shenanigans in just enough counties/states to give in the electoral college delegates.

His 'Job' was to :

1) Undermine NATO
2) Compromise the European Union
3) Undermine US Electoral Process
4) Appoint comprised judges and political officials.
5) Steal National Security secrets
6) Spread Lies, threats, hate, racial/ethnic violent speech to split this country

Why?

Trump is owned by Putin.

Trump would take the US down and Putin would have his revenge.


OAITW r.2.0

(24,393 posts)
39. LOL, not shocking any DUer that was paying attention since 2000.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:12 AM
Sep 2022

We just thought they were stupid back in the early 2000's. Seems like it was part of the long plan to get 40% of American voters to votes against our US interests.

Remember the 2004 "purple heart" Republicans who denigrated a real American hero to support a TANG washout? They were easy marks for Putin.
Still are.

DENVERPOPS

(8,802 posts)
48. AND
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:56 AM
Sep 2022

Putin is taking down the United States, Democracy and our economy without ever going to war with U.S., firing a single missile or rocket in our direction. Also he is still going strong and hasn't ceased trying to destroy the U.S.

Warpy

(111,222 posts)
37. She's basically a politician who schmoozed her way up the feeding chain
Tue Sep 6, 2022, 11:37 PM
Sep 2022

at the Federalist Society. She is not a jurist. She's forgotten much of what she learned at law school. She really doesn't belong on the bench and I sincerely hope she's off fairly quickly.

One hopes that she's got the sense to resign. It's a faint hope.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
46. This judge is seditious
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 11:44 AM
Sep 2022

She is enabling the insurrectionists wrapped in the cloak of the neutral judiciary. Hers was a political decision untethered in the law. She too should be facing charges.

Martin68

(22,776 posts)
54. Judges are usually extremely understanding of the government's national defense interests.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 12:20 PM
Sep 2022

This judge made a blatantly partisan decision, placing an ex-president's self-interest above the nation's security.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
59. Stupid people who were conned into doing criminal acts for him going to prison,
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 01:58 PM
Sep 2022

We're seeing TFG's lawyers heading there soon. Judges next, it looks like that to me. Obstruction, conspiracy.

Emile

(22,607 posts)
68. This judge needs to be prosecuted for obstructing justice.
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 06:31 PM
Sep 2022

She is acting like a judge in a banana republic.

stopdiggin

(11,285 posts)
71. I do not think the nature of the materials involved
Wed Sep 7, 2022, 08:28 PM
Sep 2022

in the investigation came as a 'surprise' to the judge. "Very sensitive" material, including human assets, sourcing, and possibly nuclear materials have been in the discussion from early on - and it's a virtual certainty that the government has included this in it's submissions.

True Blue American

(17,982 posts)
72. I just heard Hillary explain how a top secret document would come to her is no one was available
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 07:12 AM
Sep 2022

A courier would come to her office, the briefcase locked to his wrist. He would unlock it, show her, the document would go back in the briefcase, locked to his wrist.

She does not understand how the documents made it to the residence,( WH,” let alone to MAL!

I have asked this question from the beginning. How did Trump get them? Who was responsible?

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