Oh, well, we certainly wouldn't want to influence the outcome of an election,

[PCIntern]

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would we now?

After all, this particular election is only about the sanctity of the Constitution of the United States of America as well as the freedom to have our votes counted properly in the future. So why, as thinking Democrats, would we want to place an undue burden upon fascists who want to abrogate in toto our democratic rights?

What would be an absolute blow to these fascists out of the blue would be an indictment for the insane crimes committed in the state of Georgia which are recorded and constitute a confession of guilt. The media are so busy looking at these documents and this court judgment as a catastrophic setback, But three months ago no one knew of the purloined documents and we were seemingly marching toward the seeming impending indictments of this traitor and criminal.

If he in fact had documents and /or copies of same which describe various and sundry technical aspects of the nuclear capabilities of any country, and these documents were accessible to anyone other than those entrusted with such sensitive national security secrets, then this is sedition of the highest order and I don’t care if it’s 60 days or 60 hours before an election in which he is not even on the ballot, they need to move forward with celerity and make the case for his immediate incarceration. I would venture to say that there are all kinds of documents and valuables squirreled away in his residences all over the world, and it might be in the best interest of the national security of this country to simultaneously send teams into each of these places and tear them apart, looking for secret drawers, compartments, and even rooms where it this guy and his minions have sold our country to enemies and/or to his master in Moscow.

As an aside, one might ask oneself the question, rather than “what would Jesus do?”, ask “what would Republicans do?” If faced with a Democratic President who allegedly had acted in this fashion You all know the answer to that question…they would print the indictments and they would be placed in each voting machine next to the Dem lever.

Remember: there is no bottom to which they will not sink.

[MiHale]

1. He should already be behind bars...

It is being proven that not everyone is equal in the eyes of the law.

[KPN]

2. Not wanting to appear to be trying to influence the outcome

of the election is partly, if not actually the deciding factor in, why we lost in 2016. Turns out TFG in cahoots with Putin “influenced” the outcome.

Here we are possibly playing the very same hand the very same way again. Meanwhile, is there yet another Comey out there?

“Oh well” describes things perfectly.

[gab13by13]

5. Fast forward to 2020

Democrats impeach Trump and sure enough it causes a record number of people to vote for Trump, but it also causes a much larger number of people to vote for Joe Biden.

Indicting Donald trump won't just excite Trump's Magats, they will vote for him regardless, indicting Trump will stir up more people to vote against Trump.

[KPN]

7. You may have a point there.

[brooklynite]

19. I haven't seen any data that voting in 2020 was driven by the first Impeachment...

It appears that enough Republicans were exhausted by having Trump in the White House, voted for Biden, and then voted Republican down-ballot.

[jaxexpat]

20. Yes. That fact is the definition of a knee-jerk reactionary.

In this 21st century there are NO good Republicans, yet the "faithful" still thought it was prudent to maintain the down-ticket party line. Thus, unwittingly preserving the very monster that propelled Trump into office in the first place.

[gab13by13]

3. Yesterday I posted

that Thom Hartmann said that Trump should be arrested now and people here bashed both Thom and me.

The 60 day rule and being politically correct trumps our national security.

We had a fake Rothschild lady at Mar-el-Loco, a possible Russian spy. She could have easily been given our assessment of Russia's nuclear capabilities in return for bags of cash. Our DOD can't have our FBI dust the documents for her fingerprints because a Trump judge won't allow it.

[KPN]

8. Let's not forget Comey -- he was mildly nauseous because of the 60 day rule.

[yardwork]

10. I doubt anyone bashed Hartmann for saying Trump should be arrested.

Maybe they criticized him for other reasons.

[Nevilledog]

23. Hell, Manafort has been at Mar-a-Lago in the past 18 months.

[mnmoderatedem]

4. Ten days

that is how close we were to the 2016 presidential election when Comey announced he was again reviving the Hillary Clinton email investigation. Ten. Days.

Remember all those republicans complaining about the timing of that announcement? I don't either.

[gab13by13]

6. "bogus investigation"

Hillary Clinton was absolved after a 1 year FBI investigation.

[yardwork]

9. Similar to the Supreme Court appointee two-step we witnessed.

There is no bottom. They don't care at all about the truth, ethics, or even the law. ALL they care about is their own personal greed and selfishness.

[thesquanderer]

11. And remember, a Dem president cannot appoint a SC justice within 4 years of an election. (n/t)

[sop]

12. Not indicting Trump also influences the outcome of the election.

Different theories are being put forward, debating whether indicting Trump would help or harm Republicans, but the general consensus seems to be it would hurt their electoral chances while helping Democrats. Apparently, not harming Republicans is more important than protecting America's security interests.

[gab13by13]

14. I agree,

I also add that indicting Trump will bolster Democratic turnout.

[Kid Berwyn]

13. This should be on the front page, top of The New York Times.

Every word.

[gab13by13]

15. I'm just hoping that MSNBC doesn't fire Nicolle,

it's where I go for the truth.

[Kid Berwyn]

18. She stands out that way...

…as Truth is a valuable commodity. As for near-all the newspapers, networks, broadcasters, cable, satellite, radio, magazines, print, mail, etc etc etc — they do what most all of their owners want, which is to help them enrich the few and hoodwink the many.

[Alpeduez21]

16. Maybe I'm missing something

But in what election is the lazy lying steaming pile Hump?

[crud]

17. I agree, no longer in office? Not a candidate? check, check

Lock his ass up. Politics shouldn't be a shield for this traitor.

[Xoan]

21. The jury is out ...

in the court of public opinion.

Someone in the DOJ leaked the discovery of the nuclear docs.

[PCIntern]

22. Yep...

Looks like….

[H2O Man]

25. Respectfully disagree.

The DOJ doesn't leak. The Intelligence Community does, and always for a very specific reason. The news reports were confirmed by someone in the IC.

[PCIntern]

26. With a wink from DOJ I'm certain...

[H2O Man]

27. Right.

Yesterday, in a discussion about this, our friend "emulatorloo" added a quote from the Washington Post article:

“A document describing a foreign government’s military defenses, including its nuclear capabilities, was found by FBI agents who searched former president Donald Trump’s Mar-a-Lago residence and private club last month, according to people familiar with the matter, underscoring concerns among U.S. intelligence officials about classified material stashed in the Florida property."

Of course, the FBI is part of the Intelligence Community. But there are indications the document belongs to the CIA. I'd bet a dollar to a donut that we will see further "leaks" in the days to come.

[H2O Man]

24. Recommended.

It is a surreal time. One couldn't make this stuff up, with worse "news" daily. But here we are.

I happened upon a podcast by Michael Moore -- I believe #253 of "Rumble" -- in which he shows the near absolute lack of security a mar-a-lago. And we know that, even if Trump was not a traitor -- though he is -- the place would be a target for spies. And we know that spies have indeed hung out there, being welcome to play golf with Trump and Lindsey Graham. Just have a "legend" that implies you are a member of a wealthy European family, and you have great access. Or, if you are well known and can't pretend to be someone else, just give Jared $2 billion.

I'm confident that the prophet Jesus would overturn the republican temple. We need to do the same.