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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsWhy hasn't DOJ appealed Cannon's ruling?
It seems like they are leaning towards accepting it?
For reference, I've seen cases decided by the Florida Supreme Court on a Friday afternoon at 4 and the appeal filed at SCOTUS by 11 p.m. that night.
Not an attack. I'm just surprised given the extremely wide criticism this ruling has received in the legal community, even from Bill Barr.
P.S.: I'm honestly sure that they have perfectly valid reasons for not appealing, but I, as a layman, am not seeing them at this time anyway.
Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)Samrob
(4,298 posts)Not appealing sets a precedent and could weaken whatever DOJ decides to do to hold Trump accountable.
Not appealing is a sign of weakness.
After the Trumpians get that inch, they will be ready to take a mile.
The respect and compliance with the justice system will sink to new lows and may never be recoverable.
There will be violence by the right no matter what. The nation is already torn asunder.
Not appealing will embolden the complicit MAGA within our House and Senate.
Not appealing will lessen the importance and seriousness of the security issues surrounding the TS documents in the minds of the public.
I will be pissed.
Ray Bruns
(4,081 posts)brush
(53,743 posts)results in the fewest delays?
Brainfodder
(6,423 posts)Judge is picked randomly?
That was my takeaway on this from earlier discussions.
Poiuyt
(18,117 posts)If this stands, other courts will look at this as the way to do things.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)Link to tweet
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For those without Twitter:
Decision for DOJ is whether to appeal. If your primary goal is to indict, then appeal will slow things down. If your main goal is to protect the institution, then an appeal makes more sense.
NewsCenter28
(1,835 posts)NOW I understand. Let's go with the indictment strategy and not appeal then!
Alexander Of Assyria
(7,839 posts)Beastly Boy
(9,237 posts)The special master decision, which will surely find that at least one out of 11,000 documents had been removed illegally by Trump, will lend a great deal of credibility to what DOJ has done so far and what it will do in the future. This may actually clear and speed up DOJ's path to indictment.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)If the special master is someone they consider impartial, they wont fight it. If its a Trump loyalist, theyll file the appeal within hours.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)they have a Friday deadline. No way there will be any kind of agreement on a Special Master.
Lifting the stay is much more important.
gab13by13
(21,264 posts)appeal a ruling of the stay that Cannon imposed and appeal executive privilege. If the stay is lifted the situation improves.
Not appealing means DOJ has to live with judge Cannon's decisions, means that the investigation is stalled, especially the nuclear document investigation. No way there will be an agreement on a Special Master by Friday or next Friday or next Friday which probably means that Cannon gets to pick the Special master.
No way DOJ can proceed following the rules that were set up by Cannon.
DOJ could also challenge the judge's jurisdiction and appeal to have it moved to DC.
There is no good, easy, solution.
H2O Man
(73,510 posts)has no relationship to a federal case such as this.
inthewind21
(4,616 posts)the DOJ has until tomorrow to respond. If you recall thus far, the DOJ has filed at the very last minute. I'll wait to see what happens tomorrow before I light my hair on fire.
euphorb
(279 posts)They've said so. They filed a notice of appeal on Thursday afternoon. They haven't filed it yet--perhaps waiting to see how Judge Cannon rules on their motion for partial stay so they can decide exactly how to format the appeal, but it is coming. Barbara McQuaid's comments were made on Thursday morning before DOJ filed their notice of appeal.