Queen Elizabeth apparently quite ill....

[PCIntern]

CNN and MSNBC reporting now

[CatWoman]

1. I was about to start a thread about this

I'm glad to see you did.

After Prince Philip's death, this was quite expected.

Gonna miss this remarkable woman.

[PCIntern]

5. I'm not a big Anglophile...

But she is one of the few constants through my nearly 70 years. It will be quite a transition for us all in interesting ways. Particularly for those of us who have reached our seventh and eighth decades. I will never forget how shocked I was when President Kennedy was assassinated President Hoover was still alive and thought to myself wow time does move quickly in a way, and then other ways it does not.

Not too profound but you get what I mean…

[CatWoman]

8. I've always admired and respected her

most of her offspring, not so much.

I'm wondering if there will be a power struggle, even tho Charles is next in line?

There's something vulturish about him.

[PCIntern]

11. Agreed in toto

[Buckeyeblue]

22. I think it's possible the English Monarchy fades away

Elizabeth stayed popular--and the monarchy was tolerated--because of her connection to WWII. Her father was quite popular, mainly I think because he was never supposed to be king and seemed as regular as anyone in that family could be. And she and her sister stayed in England during all of the air raids. I think the people who lived through that loved her because of their shared experience.

Charles and really William, as well, just come from a place of absurd privilege. I don't see millennial or GenZ UKers given two fucks about the monarchy. And at some point they will grow to resist spending money on them.

In the end Harry will be the most popular because he walked away from all of the nonsense.

[CatWoman]

23. after the Queen

Harry is my favorite royalty

[Buckeyeblue]

28. The whole bloodline ascension represents so much of what is wrong with the world

Harry had the guts to stand up for himself and his wife. But most importantly he embraced her standing up for herself. I'm glad he walked away. He'll have a better life.

I think his father and brother resent his stepping away because they don't feel like they ever have that choice.

I'll be surprised if William ever gets to be king. But his son George won't. It'll be all over by then.

[DenaliDemocrat]

54. Plus by "blood" - they're German

Kinda makes the whole blood argument silly.

[BuddhaGirl]

57. Agreed

The British monarch will decline in popularity after Liz's passing.

I wouldn't be surprised if the family is making contingency plans for the future. Monarch is anachronistic and really has no place in modern society.

[Buckeyeblue]

58. On TV a few minutes ago they were talking about Australia

Apparently there was a voting initiative to separate from the monarchy that was voted down, mostly because of the popularity of the queen. The speaker thought there would be another one in the not to distant future that probably would pass.

Another commentator thought Charles would have to slim down the monarchy.

It will be interesting.

[lindysalsagal]

36. Same, here. Gotta admit, she was a powerful woman who only screwed up with her own kids.

Otherwise, as politicians go, she was less embarrassing than most. She only came around to appreciate Diana until after she died, and saw the world's reaction.

Willie Geist just asked, "Is Charles prepared to reign?" I laughed out loud at the screen...Yeah. For only about 50 years.....

[PCIntern]

53. Willies another member of the

Lucky sperm club

[RobinA]

55. I Get Your Point

I am 64 and this woman has been unchangable on the world stage my entire life. Pretty much everything I grew up with is gone, but Queen Elizabeth has remained. No one involved with the monarchy has ever been without her.

[kentuck]

2. She has been around my entire life.

She is an icon that surrounds us all.

[CatWoman]

3. me too!!

the only queen I've ever known.

[livetohike]

4. Same here. She was proclaimed Queen a few months

before I was born .

[Bucky]

6. I'm almost 59. She's reigned since my parents met at college

By doing her job well and she's probably preserved the institution of monarchy for the rest of the 21st century

[48656c6c6f20]

7. So

Two or three weeks or so of all monarchy all the time on every TV, radio, theater, jumbotron, water cooler, social media, every person I meet?
Well that's very sad.

[spinbaby]

9. I just turned on the news

They seem to be assuming her imminent death. I know she’s 96, but it seems premature to assume she’s about to die.

[CatWoman]

10. i think they are going on the word of her doctors.................

[ProudMNDemocrat]

12. Queen Elizabeth II came to the throne months before I was born in 1952.

So she has been the Queen of England all my life.

I have no love for Charles. William and Kate are the future of the Monarchy.

God bless the Queen.

[jimfields33]

33. I would like to see William and Kate on the throne

Skip Charles. I don’t think he deserves it. He’s probably the happiest right now. Cad that he is.

[Emile]

13. I was 14 months old when she took the throne.

[Tracer]

14. A Queen Story:

She was in Boston in 1976 for the 200th Anniversary of the USA.

There was a motorcade and at one point it went up Memorial Drive (which parallels the Charles River). There were very few people on MD that day.

I happened to be on my dad's boat as we were coming up the river to dock. We saw the queen standing up in here limo, waving daintily left and right to the very sparse crowd.

My dad leaned on the very loud boat horn, and the queen turned around sideways and gave us a big wave!

[PCIntern]

16. That's a great story!!

I love that stuff.

[Hortensis]

24. Nice memory. And that she was here for our 200th Anniversary.

[Native]

35. We got lucky seeing her arrive in her carriage during the changing of the guards.

It was the state opening of Parliament (totally unbeknownst to us), and she always rides to and from Parliament on that day by carriage. We saw her returning to the palace. It was quite the procession. And on our walk back, a car with Charles and Camilla slowed down right next to us as they were turning into one of the back entrances, somewhere near the stables I believe. It was so strange to see them up so close. If their window had been down, I would have been able to touch his shoulder. He was reading a paper.

[samnsara]

15. my dtr is on the east coast im on the west. i texted her about it as her hubby is from scotland

..she said at 5 am her phone started dinging from the family chat...

[arlyellowdog]

17. Rich people get great medical care

Dick Chaney is still alive. I have nothing against Queen Elizabeth, but rich people can live years after they have a medical condition. I don’t think she will let Charles become king while she is still breathing. I do have to say, Covid is a bitch. A lot of my friends have long term health problems after Covid and Elizabeth had Covid.

[Hortensis]

29. In today's world so do MOST unrich people. She'll be getting the

best care -- as developed and codified in standards of care for others. If it's better than most in her condition are getting, it'll be because she (presumably) has physicians with very good judgement.

But not necessarily. The biggest talent of some who rise to the top is for self aggrandizement, and that includes in medicine. History has plenty of stories about leaders and wealthy people who supposedly could have the best of everything but instead receive inadequate to even criminally bad medical care.

[tishaLA]

18. British and Aussie TV are obviously wall to wall with it

The Beeb in particular is doing yeoman's work with the story....there can't be very many Brits or others in the commonwealth who remember a time when she wasn't the monarch

[Kaleva]

19. I'm 63 and she was made Queen several years before I was born

My parents weren't in high school yet when she was crowned

[dembotoz]

20. she met the new pm and has given up all hope and is dying in despair

[mopinko]

21. my cousin in ireland thinks she's already passed.

and that they're waiting for the whole fam to get there to announce it.

[obamanut2012]

25. Oh, 100% agree -- the Sussexes just landed in Scotland

They are teh last, except Catherine is with the kids for now.

[Native]

37. Makes sense in light of Catherine not bringing the kids.

[obamanut2012]

51. I agree

[JCMach1]

42. Life support... SOP for high profile monarchs

[Hekate]

44. SOP for many families to wait till everyone can be there to say farewell

[JCMach1]

49. Also true. I remember in UAE... Shk. Zayed was on life support more than a week

While they planned the state funeral and mourning...

I knew the family...

[Native]

46. On a UK Reddit thread re the Queen having already passed away:

"The BBC already leaked it on their 'live news' section, they wrote Charles will become king, and then it was quickly removed and replaced with Heir to the throne..."

[Mysterian]

26. I wish she would denounce the concept of royalty before she passes

She seems like a nice person, but any person with a shred of dignity would throw down the trappings of royalty.

[Meowmee]

27. Sorry to hear that

My neighbor and dear friend of 94 just passed in August, it was devastating . Very sad for her family if she is that ill which it sounds like.

[Peacetrain]

30. Sorry to hear this.. no matter how old, it is hard to let them go

for the family. My Mother lived to be 93, and I still grieve for her..

[Hortensis]

31. Best wishes for her recovery and for them all.

She's reportedly "resting comfortably." I just noticed that last October, when she needed to spend a night in the hospital, the public was not informed until after. This is being handled very differently.

Aside from all the other feelings she might have, I'm guessing she probably wants to live to see her nation, and her family, come safely through this dangerous period, and to be available to do anything she can to help. I know I do.

[MineralMan]

32. I remember TV news covering her coronation.

I was 7 years old, and we had just gotten the family's first TV set. I'm an old geezer. Yes I am.

[crazylikafox]

40. I was 3. First TV set also.

My parents bought it so we could watch the coronation. I remember sitting on my father’s lap watching it on that brand new tv.

[CatWoman]

52. LOL

There's a whole bunch of old geezers on this thread

[MineralMan]

56. Geezers Abound!

We're not gone yet!

[Biophilic]

34. I actually got to see her in 1952. She was visiting the US, can't remember

if it before or after her coronation. My mother took us down to watch the motorcade. I can't really remember what she looked like but I remember the size and excitement of the crowd. It was a collage town and I don't think anything like this had happened before. I was was just 6. Still one of my true memories from childhood.

[empedocles]

38. An important, world wide symbol of stability

[crickets]

50. Yes. She has been a steady through-line for so many all around the world.

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I admire her strength through WWII and the death of her father, then her calm presence on the throne through everything that has come after. She has quietly been there for my entire life. The one-two punch of Covid and the loss of Philip is a lot to ask anyone to bear, but I thought she'd be around for just a few years more.

My heart goes out to the UK right now. First Brexit and its painful fallout, then Boris Johnson, the equally rancid PM they've recently been stuck with, and now this. Damn. Hugs to them.

[allegorical oracle]

39. New Prime Minister Truss tweeted this out this morning at 7:39 London time...

"The whole country will be deeply concerned by the news from Buckingham Palace this lunchtime."

https://abcnews.go.com/International/britains-queen-elizabeth-ii-medical-supervision/story?id=89517044

(the ABC story with Truss's tweet was posted about a half-hour ago.)

[DFW]

41. She was crowned Queen when I was 1 year and 3 months old

When I think of "been there, done that," she's the one living person who could really say that and mean it about pretty much anything.

[frogmarch]

43. I watched her coronation on

a little round-screen TV at a family friend's house when I was 9 years old.

I'm not a fan of the concept of royalty, but I don't like what is happening to Queen Elizabeth.

[Hekate]

47. We had a little B/W tv. I was about 6, and remember watching w/ my parents

The British Queen has been around for all our lives as well.

[Lucinda]

48. ❤️ ✿❧🌿❧✿ ❤️