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Brenda

(1,047 posts)
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 05:45 PM Sep 2022

World on brink of five 'disastrous' climate tipping points, study finds

The climate crisis has driven the world to the brink of multiple “disastrous” tipping points, according to a major study.

It shows five dangerous tipping points may already have been passed due to the 1.1C of global heating caused by humanity to date.

These include the collapse of Greenland’s ice cap, eventually producing a huge sea level rise, the collapse of a key current in the north Atlantic, disrupting rain upon which billions of people depend for food, and an abrupt melting of carbon-rich permafrost.

At 1.5C of heating, the minimum rise now expected, four of the five tipping points move from being possible to likely, the analysis said. Also at 1.5C, an additional five tipping points become possible, including changes to vast northern forests and the loss of almost all mountain glaciers.

In total, the researchers found evidence for 16 tipping points, with the final six requiring global heating of at least 2C to be triggered, according to the scientists’ estimations. The tipping points would take effect on timescales varying from a few years to centuries.

More: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2022/sep/08/world-on-brink-five-climate-tipping-points-study-finds

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World on brink of five 'disastrous' climate tipping points, study finds (Original Post) Brenda Sep 2022 OP
They apparently didn't factor in a few things, FirstLight Sep 2022 #1
The experts I read pretty much say we're past the tipping point... WarGamer Sep 2022 #3
yes. we're past being screwn... n/t FirstLight Sep 2022 #4
Concur misanthrope Sep 2022 #18
Yep, nailed it. Brenda Sep 2022 #5
All 5 are inevitable. WarGamer Sep 2022 #2
Agree Brenda Sep 2022 #6
I think I know why Climate Reality doesn't interest many people... WarGamer Sep 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Brenda Sep 2022 #8
More like propaganda Brenda Sep 2022 #9
There is a solution, but people don't want to acknowledge it. roamer65 Sep 2022 #12
brutal, but true. WarGamer Sep 2022 #13
I believe consumption reduction is even more important. Ron Green Sep 2022 #14
We won't have to kill people. roamer65 Sep 2022 #17
Greenhouse gases can linger in the atmosphere for hundreds of years Kaleva Sep 2022 #21
But it is possible to adapt. Kaleva Sep 2022 #22
Absolutely. WarGamer Sep 2022 #23
The Amazon dying feedback loop has already started NickB79 Sep 2022 #10
Yeah, and we've hastened it. misanthrope Sep 2022 #19
K&R Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Sep 2022 #11
Read "The End of Ice" by Dahr Jamail. 7wo7rees Sep 2022 #15
Yep, read it. Brenda Sep 2022 #16
Thank you. 7wo7rees Sep 2022 #20

FirstLight

(13,360 posts)
1. They apparently didn't factor in a few things,
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:01 PM
Sep 2022

so the results are a less severe scenario. Like deforestation, loss of ocean oxygen and shifting Indian Monsoon...

"...Prof Niklas Boers, at the Technical University of Munich, said: “The review is a timely update on the Earth’s potential tipping elements, and the threat of tipping events under further warming is real.”

He added that much more research was needed to narrow down the critical temperature thresholds, with current estimates remaining highly uncertain.
..."


unfortunately, these warnings continue to fall on deaf ears, as the 1% and oil companies double down on their own gains at the demise of the rest of the planet

WarGamer

(12,430 posts)
3. The experts I read pretty much say we're past the tipping point...
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:06 PM
Sep 2022

And TBH, the concept of a Global effort to cut FF consumption by... 5 or 10% (which would be HUGE BTW)

Won't do Jack or Shit. And Jack already left the building.

The world isn't burning up because of DiCaprios jet... or idling your car in the morning an extra 5 minutes...

We're fucked because there are 8,000,000,000 people on the planet and approx. 1 Billion of them are going from 19th Century life to 21st Century life in the next 5 years.

China and India are building new coal fired power plants weekly...

Stop EVERY gram of man-made CO2 emissions tomorrow... and it'd take DECADES for atmospheric CO2 levels to begin to drop... maybe centuries.

Brenda

(1,047 posts)
5. Yep, nailed it.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:09 PM
Sep 2022

Why do supposedly Democratic Governments continue to siphon tax payers money to these corporations?

WarGamer

(12,430 posts)
7. I think I know why Climate Reality doesn't interest many people...
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:26 PM
Sep 2022

There's no "solution".

If we could air up our tires, recycle our Coke bottles and install solar panels to save the world, people would have a goal... they'd feel like they are doing something.

Reality is, there's NOTHING we (small w) can do about it.

In fact, I'd argue that the breaking point was probably in the first half of the 20th Century.

Response to WarGamer (Reply #7)

Brenda

(1,047 posts)
9. More like propaganda
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 06:40 PM
Sep 2022

tells people it isn't that bad or we'll be able to fix it.

NEWS sources of all kinds including DU downplay the climate reality and focus on one immediate issue at a time like the individual fires, floods and mass shootings and anything relating to TFG. It's disgusting that that criminal is awarded more discussion time than the end of the fucking world.

roamer65

(36,745 posts)
12. There is a solution, but people don't want to acknowledge it.
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 09:07 PM
Sep 2022

Population reduction.

Mother Nature will eventually acknowledge it and act upon it.

WarGamer

(12,430 posts)
13. brutal, but true.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:53 AM
Sep 2022

8 billion people.

Each and every one contributes to CO2 emissions. Each and every one eats, wears clothing, uses transportation... flips a light switch...

Ron Green

(9,822 posts)
14. I believe consumption reduction is even more important.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:59 AM
Sep 2022

If Americans lived like most people, we’d be a few giant steps closer to survival. And we wouldn’t have to kill people to reach the right number.

Kaleva

(36,294 posts)
21. Greenhouse gases can linger in the atmosphere for hundreds of years
Sun Sep 11, 2022, 06:42 AM
Sep 2022

So it could take a very long time, centuries, after a massive reduction in population before climate returns to normal.

WarGamer

(12,430 posts)
23. Absolutely.
Mon Sep 12, 2022, 07:53 PM
Sep 2022

We can stick around this big rock for hundreds more years with proper steps.

Big "bubble cities", powerful energy grids (nuclear), climate control technological progress (A/C), Move agriculture to parts of the planet that will grow food, easier to keep 1 million people alive and working/thriving in an urban area rather than sprawling suburbs, possibly subterranean...

But we're talking about a cost in the (gulp) hundreds of trillions of dollars... basically rebuilding the nation.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
10. The Amazon dying feedback loop has already started
Thu Sep 8, 2022, 07:04 PM
Sep 2022

It's now drying out and converting to savannah and grassland

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
15. Read "The End of Ice" by Dahr Jamail.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:14 AM
Sep 2022

Many talks he has also given can be found on YouTube.
He traveled the world for 2 years, meeting and interviewing clmate scientists worldwide and documenting it all.

Yeah, we are there. Baked in even if we went 0 tomorrow world wide. Baked in.
Ms7wo7rees

Brenda

(1,047 posts)
16. Yep, read it.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 06:15 AM
Sep 2022

That book and The Uninhabitable Earth by David Wallace-Wells lay out the reality of the situation in undeniable facts. Both should be required reading for everyone.

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