Some thoughts on King William... sooner than one might think.

[WarGamer]

Yeah it's a UK gossip mag but interesting.

Goes along with my thinking.

Charles deserves his time in the Sun, wear the crown that he's spent a lifetime waiting for...

But... a young King and Queen would bring a fresh burst of energy and 21st Century reality to the monarchy.

https://www.marieclaire.co.uk/news/celebrity-news/why-experts-believe-prince-charles-may-hand-crown-prince-william-709625

With regards to the possibility of Charles passing the crown straight to William, the website reads: ‘Having waited over 60 years as heir apparent, it would be perfectly natural for Prince Charles to want to assume the throne and perform the royal duties for which he has spent so long preparing in waiting.

‘But it would be equally natural if, after reigning for a few years as an increasingly elderly monarch, he chose to invite Parliament to hand on the throne to Prince William.’

[claudette]

1. And

Camilla’s presence instead of Diana is a sad reminder that Charlie is no better than any man who cheats

[WarGamer]

2. Yes!!

[catbyte]

3. Yeah, I just can't get that whole Charles wishing he

was Camilla's tampon thing outta my head.

Ew.

[claudette]

9. Yuck !!!

[jrthin]

10. Me too. Whenever I hear and see him, that tape recording is never

far from my mind.

[Jilly_in_VA]

5. Well, yes

and I suppose I could be more charitable towards her than I am, considering that Charles has been in love with her his whole life. The damn stuffy "courtiers" should have let him marry her in the first place, instead of complaining that she "had a past" or whatever their silly-assed problem with her was, since she probably deflowered the prince anyway. That said, once he was married, she should have backed off, even if he wanted to continue.

[Pathwalker]

12. British law at the time required him to marry a virgin.

That's why Diana was chosen, she was examined and declared to be one on the morning of the wedding. The law was later changed so William could marry Kate. This was the law in olden times to make certain any child was in fact the king's, an no man could go before the king. Ugh.

[Jilly_in_VA]

13. *Eyeroll*

I presume that's been changed, since there's no way on this earth that Kate was a virgin. Or likely that any future female that a future king wants to marry will be a virgin. Those will be a rare commodity unless they've been kept under lock and key since they were toddlers.

[Pathwalker]

20. Yes, I stated that in my post. Times have certainly changed.

It was a disgusting and sexist thing.

[Celerity]

34. No, there never was a law like that, custom yes, law or binding rule, no

https://www.washingtonpost.com/uk-royal-brides-virginity-no-longer-an-issue/2011/04/08/AFyfEP2C_story.html

“There is no rule that the royal bride has to be a virgin, and there never has been,” said Noel Cox, a law professor and royal scholar at Aberystwyth University in Wales. “Obviously it would present difficulties if the heir chose someone who was notoriously promiscuous — that would be unpopular — but they could do that if they wanted to.”

[Celerity]

35. No, there never was a law like that, custom yes, law or binding rule, no

https://www.washingtonpost.com/uk-royal-brides-virginity-no-longer-an-issue/2011/04/08/AFyfEP2C_story.html

“There is no rule that the royal bride has to be a virgin, and there never has been,” said Noel Cox, a law professor and royal scholar at Aberystwyth University in Wales. “Obviously it would present difficulties if the heir chose someone who was notoriously promiscuous — that would be unpopular — but they could do that if they wanted to.”

[treestar]

30. past kings had mistresses

and it was accepted and expected. It is funny how as sexual mores loosen generally, they get stricter for the rich and famous and royal

[claudette]

31. However

Camilla was not just Charlie's "mistress." He did not love Diana. He loved the other one that he is married to now. He was immoral to marry Diana and put her through the emotional turmoil that he did. No wonder Harry dislikes her and moved away. I would have, too.

[treestar]

36. True, I suppose past kings did not have to love their spouses at all

the marriages were arranged to make alliances. So nobody thought they'd love their queens. But some did, after all - they were satisfied with the result. Thus Henry III had no illegitimate children/mistresses.

A few of them could pick their wife/husband, but that was usually because they were already the monarch and then got married, so Edward IV married a woman he loved (but then later had mistresses anyway).

By the time of the Queen's father, it seemed they could pick their spouse. Still, there was pressure. Charles had to pick a bride with certain characteristics. He couldn't marry the woman he loved. He could have given up / abdicated to marry the divorced Camilla, perhaps. Still, if Diana were still alive, he would not have been able to marry her at all.

[RobinA]

32. Hear, Hear

I never get all this handwringing about Charles and Camilla. They are angels in the behavior department compared to most of their predecessors. If this were a couple centuries ago, Meghan would be in the Tower, Harry would be plotting from some relative's castle in Germany, Louie would have had George beheaded already, and Kate would be weighing potential French husbands for Charlotte. The gang is a tame bunch.

[treestar]

37. lol, exactly!

The Plantagenets and the Tudors must be laughing in their graves at that handwringing!

[Blue_playwright]

4. He's a huge green energy and environmental advocate...

I hope he uses his position to push his agenda - perhaps a bit more political than he ought but… I thought it was a bit prophetic that she passed him the crown as the country debated their energy future.

[mopinko]

22. that's my hope.

i know he has been rewilding some of the estates. he knows the science.

[purr-rat beauty]

6. Why do the English need Royalty?

or the world for that matter?

Granted, it's a cash cow so it won't end...but it's history is filthy and selfish and rather than holding them up on gilded wings, let's not forget out how faulty they truly were/are.

my condolences to those who will grieve her but she is not without blame.

[TxGuitar]

28. The royals don't draw people

Their castles do. Charles isn't gonna go gladhand the tourists at Buckhouse's gate.

[treestar]

38. +1

When they say that, you wonder, who goes to the UK as a tourist because of today's royals? It is the past royals who created the history.

[delisen]

7. I am amused at the Unconsciousness of Ageism and the sniffing after royalty

People who are weak depend upon status to confer the appearance of strength upon themselves, the inherently strong never rely upon status but make their own place in the sun

[Jilly_in_VA]

14. Your hypocrisy

and hauteur are duly noted.

[delisen]

16. Please elaborate on hypocrisy?

[delisen]

21. Please refrain from personal attacks. I have not called you out

Nor have I insulted any other individual personally. I have voiced an opinion in a thread that presumably is open to all.

We’re it marked as private and not open to all members of DU I would not comment.

[BlackSkimmer]

8. It's a nice thought.

But that won’t happen any more than all the conjecture about The Queen giving the crown to Charles. Lost count how many times I saw that here.

[Freddie]

11. I don't think so

There was always speculation that the Queen would step down to give Charles time on the throne. Didn’t happen. The Royals will stick to the way things have always been done.

[Irish_Dem]

15. Won't happen.

Americans don't seem to understand the British mindset.

[WarGamer]

23. Author is a Brit.

[Irish_Dem]

24. Still won't happen.

One disgruntled Brit does not drive the nation.

[WarGamer]

25. So you think Charles will serve until RIP?

I can see him passing the torch after a few years.

[Irish_Dem]

29. Yes that is the plan.

The Brits pride themselves on not being like other royalty.
Who "retire" and let the younger generation do the work.

[RobinA]

33. It Just Doesn't

work that way. That would be something Americans would do.

[Emile]

17. I really don't care!

[DenaliDemocrat]

19. Whole thing is pretty stupid and a waste of tax dollars

I hope the monarchy fizzles into obscurity

[liberal_mama]

26. That might not be too far off. Charles has already had Covid 2x so I'm sure he's probably got some

serious damage to his organs and immune system. Hopefully, he is taking precautions to avoid getting it a 3rd time. Someone in my town died after their 3rd Covid infection.

[FakeNoose]

27. I can remember back when it was thought that Elizabeth would abdicate in favor of Charles

... and he didn't have any gray hair yet. I'm pretty sure Charles and Diana were still married then. All kinds of rumors that Elizabeth wanted her son to rule, and she'd retire and go on vacation. But that never happened. Oh well.

He's not the brightest bulb in the pack, that's for sure. And there's the matter of Meghan Markle and the way the Royal Family (ahem ... Charles) treated her. Personally I hope his reign is short.