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kpete

(71,980 posts)
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 08:07 AM Sep 2022

FL Federal Court DISMISSES Trump's lawsuit Against Hillary Clinton

A federal court in Florida has dismissed - for many different reasons - former President Trump's lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, various government officials and various others over "Russiagate."

The judge said Trump's lawsuit that he was the victim of a plot by Hillary Clinton and others relied on misrepresented evidence, legal theories rejected by the Supreme Court and hyperbole to settle political scores. And that's just what you see before page 5.

Judge: Trump's 193-page conspiracy allegation "is neither short nor plain, and it certainly does not establish that Plaintiff is entitled to any relief."


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FL Federal Court DISMISSES Trump's lawsuit Against Hillary Clinton (Original Post) kpete Sep 2022 OP
When are they going to go after these lawyers gab13by13 Sep 2022 #1
They certainly should... reACTIONary Sep 2022 #3
and they yell at us for frivolous lawsuits . AllaN01Bear Sep 2022 #15
The most litigious man on earth. spanone Sep 2022 #2
Not really inthewind21 Sep 2022 #9
HA! Ligyron Sep 2022 #12
There is that. calimary Sep 2022 #20
There must be penalties for these frivolous and revengeful lawsuits FakeNoose Sep 2022 #4
The US inthewind21 Sep 2022 #10
Whaaaat?!?! Caliman73 Sep 2022 #27
Just another frivolous lawsuit by Trump. no_hypocrisy Sep 2022 #5
Well inthewind21 Sep 2022 #11
What is the old adage? SleeplessinSoCal Sep 2022 #6
Lawyers don't work for free DFW Sep 2022 #7
He's spending his children's inheritance money FakeNoose Sep 2022 #13
I would have thought that had disappeared long ago DFW Sep 2022 #17
Yet another 'fuck you' to Bloated Tick Aviation Pro Sep 2022 #8
Fun fact: Trump tried to judge shop this case to one Aileen Cannon. Didn't work. Nevilledog Sep 2022 #26
So Hillary didn't make Alfa Bank contact the Trump Campaign's Server 2,000 from April to Oct. '16? Botany Sep 2022 #14
ding. AllaN01Bear Sep 2022 #16
I hope the attorneys who filed this are sanctioned. CaptainTruth Sep 2022 #18
Hillary deserves a victory lap. JohnnyRingo Sep 2022 #19
... catbyte Sep 2022 #21
Does he not understand BlueIdaho Sep 2022 #22
193 pages of unhinged conspiracy theory.... Hey, he wrote a book!!! TigressDem Sep 2022 #30
Probably the work of his lawyers BlueIdaho Sep 2022 #31
He can call them Ghost Writers. TigressDem Sep 2022 #32
Perfect! BlueIdaho Sep 2022 #34
K; R CatWoman Sep 2022 #23
How in the hell did this vengeful sack of shit KPN Sep 2022 #24
Trump knows he is guilty as sin so he makes up this shit to try and look like a victim. Maraya1969 Sep 2022 #25
A rare loss for Trump in the courts. Dr. Strange Sep 2022 #28
Trump presented his Russia hoax theory to a court. It went poorly. LetMyPeopleVote Sep 2022 #29
I'm still reading the decision. Hermit-The-Prog Sep 2022 #33

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
3. They certainly should...
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:19 AM
Sep 2022

.... Unfortunately you have to adjudicate the frivolous suit before going after the lawyers. But if it was their last law suit, attrition would eventually solve the problem.

calimary

(81,179 posts)
20. There is that.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:42 AM
Sep 2022

There definitely is that.

And it’s allowed him his favorite toy: grievance lawsuits filed for delaying action.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
4. There must be penalties for these frivolous and revengeful lawsuits
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:20 AM
Sep 2022

What gives Chump the right to tie up our federal courts with his petty grievances?

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
27. Whaaaat?!?!
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 12:06 PM
Sep 2022

I thought justice was blind...

It is utterly ridiculous that the more money you have, the more you can game, delay, and at times defeat the justice system. If you have no money, you can sit in prison and even on Death Row for years for crimes you did not commit. The whole, "Better 10 guilty people go free than one innocent be imprisoned only seems to work when you are White and/or very rich. Similarly, you can steal from the average person all you want, but if you try to steal from rich people, then you may have some "justice" coming to you.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
11. Well
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:58 AM
Sep 2022

in order to get sanctions, you'll need to get an attorney and file in court for them. And the wheel goes round and round.

DFW

(54,328 posts)
7. Lawyers don't work for free
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:45 AM
Sep 2022

To pay them off, he must be diverting every cent he can squeeze from every contribution he can plunder and every loan he can get, collateralized by Merde-a-Lago or those of his properties not yet in hock. Or maybe Jared is paying them out of his Saudi money? I wouldn’t know, but one thing is certain: when those legal bills cease being paid, his legal frivolities cease as well.

FakeNoose

(32,613 posts)
13. He's spending his children's inheritance money
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:01 AM
Sep 2022

That's my guess. After he croaks it will turn out that the kids get nothing because the money went to the lawyers.

DFW

(54,328 posts)
17. I would have thought that had disappeared long ago
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:08 AM
Sep 2022

But maybe some is stashed in trusts or other “you can’t touch me” financial instruments with names I’ll never know or ever have a need to know.

Aviation Pro

(12,140 posts)
8. Yet another 'fuck you' to Bloated Tick
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 09:55 AM
Sep 2022

Wait until Judge C'mon Aileen (Cause You're Dirty) back peddles her ruling.

Botany

(70,480 posts)
14. So Hillary didn't make Alfa Bank contact the Trump Campaign's Server 2,000 from April to Oct. '16?
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 10:03 AM
Sep 2022

Was There a Connection Between a Russian Bank and the Trump Campaign?
A team of computer scientists sifted through records of unusual Web traffic in search of answers.



https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018/10/15/was-there-a-connection-between-a-russian-bank-and-the-trump-campaign

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
22. Does he not understand
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:04 AM
Sep 2022

Each failed lawsuit weakens him in the public perception? He has become the toothless lion.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
30. 193 pages of unhinged conspiracy theory.... Hey, he wrote a book!!!
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:16 PM
Sep 2022

He doesn't really read much... just likes to have beautiful words with pretty colored labels nearby to show people he's smart.


But he will probably repackage this and sell it as his story of grief and dismay to the MAGA masses.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
31. Probably the work of his lawyers
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 04:21 PM
Sep 2022

Who could face action by the judge for bringing a bullshit waste of time lawsuit to the overworked legal system. So maybe he can also exhibit their shredded law licenses in a frame on his wall.

KPN

(15,641 posts)
24. How in the hell did this vengeful sack of shit
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:47 AM
Sep 2022

ever become President? Oh yeah, Russia …with unwitting assistance from all those folks who inspired “ldiocracy”.

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
25. Trump knows he is guilty as sin so he makes up this shit to try and look like a victim.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 11:54 AM
Sep 2022

It would be like OJ Simpson suing the prosecutors, the Godman family and the Brown family.


I think the lawyers should face retribution for this. Frivolous lawsuits waste money and time that could be used for real people with real problems.

LetMyPeopleVote

(145,046 posts)
29. Trump presented his Russia hoax theory to a court. It went poorly.
Fri Sep 9, 2022, 03:22 PM
Sep 2022

TFG has been pushing the bizarre theory that Russia never tried to influence the 2016 election. This theory has no basis in reality, but TFG cannot accept the concept that he did not win 2016 on his own merits. It is clear that in the real world, Putin got TFG elected and TFG cannot accept reality

The lawsuit against Hillary Clinton, the Clinton campaign and 30+ defendants was so bad that it was impossible to read. Again, this lawsuit was drafted by two lawyers whose offices are in shopping centers and these idiots just put down TFG's craze ravings as facts. i loved the opinion that came down today that rejected TFG's crazed beliefs about Russian and the 2016 election.



https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2022/09/09/trump-2016-russia-clinton/

One of the hallmarks of Donald Trump’s tenure in American politics has been the extent to which he remained cocooned in his own world.....

And then, earlier this year, a change. Trump proudly removed his Russia theory from its home and presented it to the court, like a kid digging up a dandelion he’d been watching in his yard and offering it as a horticulture contender at the state fair. The verdict, offered in a filing on Thursday, was probably not what Trump would have hoped.

Suffice it to say, he did not earn a blue ribbon.

The background here is interesting, by the way. Trump presented his grand Russia hoax conspiracy in the form of a lawsuit, alleging that Hillary Clinton and others — FBI officials, attorneys, IT guys — had conspired against him in violation of racketeering statutes (a.k.a. RICO). The suit was filed in a specific courthouse in the Southern District of Florida, apparently with the hope that it would be heard by a particular judge that Trump himself had appointed......

In short, the theory that flourished in Trump’s friendly ecosystem was that the Russia probe was a function of explicit dishonesty on the part of Clinton: that her allies sought to create a dossier of false reports about Trump and Russia and that they used stolen data to suggest a link between Trump’s business and a Russian bank......

The judge made very clear that he understood Trump’s suit for what it obviously is.

“At its core, the problem with Plaintiff’s Amended Complaint is that Plaintiff is not attempting to seek redress for any legal harm,” he wrote. “ … instead, he is seeking to flaunt a two-hundred-page political manifesto outlining his grievances against those that have opposed him, and this Court is not the appropriate forum.”


TFG's had no facts to support his claims and the court had no problem rejecting TFG's rants. Now it is time to sanction TFG and his shopping center lawyers for wasting the court's time on TFG's bizarre theory
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